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Pro-Choicers Aborting Future Pro-Choicers

CorporateWhoreCorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
edited July 2007 in A Moving Train
http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110010321

It is an interesting point. If pro-choice people support abortion more frequently than pro-life people in practice, then there will be fewer pro-choice voters in the future. Pro-choice parents tend to have pro-choice children.

Ahhh the inevitable success of people who choose to have more babies. It can be seen in Northern Ireland, where Catholics will soon outnumber Protestants (and outvote them).
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  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    wtf?

    uhhh ... pro-choice people don't necessarily choose abortion and pro-choice people have kids ...
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    And pro-life people quite often have pro-choice children. Example, my parents are pro-life - all four of their children are pro-choice.
  • KannKann Posts: 1,146
    We'll have to wait and see I guess.
    But this also has an upside : http://www.freakonomics.com/ch4.php
    Something that I'd like to know is if "pro-life" people are really that naive? Do you really think that banning abortions will stop women from aborting?
  • Uncle LeoUncle Leo Posts: 1,059
    I don't know the numbers, but I think a suprising number of pro-life people acutally have abortions. Once they are in the situation, they are less likely to, but still some do it.

    Edit: I found some anecdotal evidence. And since pro-life is referred to as "anti-choice", this is obviously a big pro-choice slant. No numbers, just anecdotes: http://mypage.direct.ca/w/writer/anti-tales.html
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  • mammasanmammasan Posts: 5,656
    Hell I'm pro-choice, as was my ex, and we have three little rug rats running around.
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  • polarispolaris Posts: 3,527
    and how did missouri become the key state for public opinion?
  • RushlimboRushlimbo Posts: 832
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110010321

    It is an interesting point. If pro-choice people support abortion more frequently than pro-life people in practice, then there will be fewer pro-choice voters in the future. Pro-choice parents tend to have pro-choice children.

    Ahhh the inevitable success of people who choose to have more babies. It can be seen in Northern Ireland, where Catholics will soon outnumber Protestants (and outvote them).

    I'm guessing you are a clone of your father in every thought and action. Sad. Try to be original and free yourself from your paternal chains.
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  • CorporateWhoreCorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    I would think that pro-life couples not only abort fewer children, but they also have more children. Christian families have like 50 kids.

    I realize that some of you may have families, but consider the average pro-choice female. She's more likely to have aborted a baby than a pro-life woman, as the article suggests. A pro-choice woman might have 5 kids, but she also might have aborted 5 others...
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  • CorporateWhoreCorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    Rushlimbo wrote:
    I'm guessing you are a clone of your father in every thought and action. Sad. Try to be original and free yourself from your paternal chains.

    LOL!! :P

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  • Hitch-HikerHitch-Hiker Posts: 2,873
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    Ahhh the inevitable success of people who choose to have more babies. It can be seen in Northern Ireland, where Catholics will soon outnumber Protestants (and outvote them).
    That made me laugh :D
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  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    I realize that some of you may have families, but consider the average pro-choice female. She's more likely to have aborted a baby than a pro-life woman, as the article suggests. A pro-choice woman might have 5 kids, but she also might have aborted 5 others...

    huh??? 10 pregnancies???? May I ask what basis you have for this or what you're smoking???
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  • CorporateWhoreCorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    chromiam wrote:
    huh??? 10 pregnancies???? May I ask what basis you have for this or what you're smoking???

    I guess your mind couldn't wrap around that example.

    Suppose the pro-choice woman has 2 children, but she aborted the other 2. She would've had 4.

    The Pro-life woman has 4 children.
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  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110010321

    It is an interesting point. If pro-choice people support abortion more frequently than pro-life people in practice, then there will be fewer pro-choice voters in the future. Pro-choice parents tend to have pro-choice children.

    Ahhh the inevitable success of people who choose to have more babies. It can be seen in Northern Ireland, where Catholics will soon outnumber Protestants (and outvote them).
    I honestly expected this to be a story from The Onion. That's how ludicrous it seems to me.
  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    I guess your mind couldn't wrap around that example.

    Suppose the pro-choice woman has 2 children, but she aborted the other 2. She would've had 4.

    The Pro-life woman has 4 children.
    I'll be honest here...the main reason I'm pro-choice is having grown up in a family of nine. Obviously my parents weren't pro-choice, but nearly all of my siblings are.
  • RockinInCanadaRockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    This is so absurd and I still cannot believe people will argue tooth and nail over this subject.

    The best policy is one of choice if you are one to believe that you will never have/ and or support an abortion then great that is your choice. However leave it to those that do not fully agree with their own choices, stop forcing idealogy down peoples throats.

    Also I am pro-choice and would NEVER support an abortion that included my involvement, however I will not interfere with the life decisions of the next person because it is their body, their life, and their decision that they will need to face through-out their future years. The policy of choice is best because it leaves the decision to the indiviudal not a % of people who think one way.

    Also to add-in I know a girl (daughter of a Catholic minister) who had an abortion because of fear of being canned from the family for it being out of wed-lock. It is easy to believe something when you are never given the choice but my oh my things can change when the golden finger of fate points at you.
  • Ms. HaikuMs. Haiku Washington DC Posts: 7,278
    See, this is the reason for me to get back to eHarmony. I'll find someone, and make many pro-choicers :D

    Actually, I'm pretty sure my mom is pro-life, and all 5 of her kids are pro-choice.
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  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    I guess your mind couldn't wrap around that example.

    Suppose the pro-choice woman has 2 children, but she aborted the other 2. She would've had 4.

    The Pro-life woman has 4 children.

    I wrapped my head around it and who's to say that the woman has as many abortions as children... maybe they have 4 kids and 1 abortion.
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  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    don't gimme no wrote:
    I'll be honest here...the main reason I'm pro-choice is having grown up in a family of nine. Obviously my parents weren't pro-choice, but nearly all of my siblings are.

    Ha! Me too...I'm the oldest of 6. It was just craziness to have that many children! Three of my older siblings are pro-choice, one pro-life, and the youngest is only 10.

    So my pro-lifer mom has spawned 4 pro-choice heathens. :p Hahahaha
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  • CorporateWhoreCorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    chromiam wrote:
    I wrapped my head around it and who's to say that the woman has as many abortions as children... maybe they have 4 kids and 1 abortion.

    Okay, and over the course of time, that one abortion adds up to 40 million babies that would never become pro-choicers.
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  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    Okay, and over the course of time, that one abortion adds up to 40 million babies that would never become pro-choicers.

    the point is, there is no way of telling what they would have become.
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  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    Okay, and over the course of time, that one abortion adds up to 40 million babies that would never become pro-choicers.

    or pro-lifers... like was said just because your parents have one set of beliefs or values doesn't mean you'll have the same.
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  • CorporateWhoreCorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    chromiam wrote:
    or pro-lifers... like was said just because your parents have one set of beliefs or values doesn't mean you'll have the same.

    The guy in the article was saying that there is a greater likelihood that they would've become pro-choice voters because they came from poor, pro-choice backgrounds.

    I think we can all agree that most people don't go from pro-choice to pro-life as frequently as they go from pro-life to pro-choice. Pro-choice families have pro-choice children.
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    abortion rights should extend until the baby's first birthday. ...you know, by then you'll figure out whether or not you "really" want the kid.

    :D
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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    http://www.opinionjournal.com/best/?id=110010321

    It is an interesting point. If pro-choice people support abortion more frequently than pro-life people in practice, then there will be fewer pro-choice voters in the future. Pro-choice parents tend to have pro-choice children.

    Ahhh the inevitable success of people who choose to have more babies. It can be seen in Northern Ireland, where Catholics will soon outnumber Protestants (and outvote them).

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  • CJMST3KCJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    If pro-choice people support abortion more frequently than pro-life people in practice, then there will be fewer pro-choice voters in the future.


    ...and this is just a guess, but I'd imagine most people on death row are more on the democratic side of things... so they're getting "wacked" from both sides! ;)
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  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    CJMST3K wrote:
    ...and this is just a guess, but I'd imagine most people on death row are more on the democratic side of things... so they're getting "wacked" from both sides! ;)

    Don't forget... liberals like to fuck, don't wait til their married and don't preach abstinence only. ;)
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  • CorporateWhoreCorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
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  • CorporateWhoreCorporateWhore Posts: 1,890
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Don't forget... liberals like to fuck, don't wait til their married and don't preach abstinence only. ;)

    You really think liberals have more kids than conservatives? Bullshit. Catholics have been having big families since the dawn of time. Liberal women take contraceptives and abort all of their babies so they might have one, if that.

    Liberal women are mostly lesbos. Yeah, it's science...
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  • chromiamchromiam Posts: 4,114
    CorporateWhore wrote:
    The guy in the article was saying that there is a greater likelihood that they would've become pro-choice voters because they came from poor, pro-choice backgrounds.

    I think we can all agree that most people don't go from pro-choice to pro-life as frequently as they go from pro-life to pro-choice. Pro-choice families have pro-choice children.

    hmmm "poor, pro-choice backgrounds", rich or middle class people aren't pro-choice??? Just way too many assumptions without facts to back them up for an educated person to believe.
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  • EastofEdenEastofEden Posts: 75
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Don't forget... liberals like to fuck, don't wait til their married and don't preach abstinence only. ;)

    Conservatives like to f**k as well, but because we are repressed, we are actually better in the sack. ;)

    All that guilt must make for an amazing release or something.


    But...on topic, what he is saying is that pro- choicers are eventually going to cancel themselves out, its a mathematical certainty :D
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