Dutch elections...hopefull???

Kushikushun

RavennaSeattle1911 wrote:

are you dumb?im on dialup- no dsl etc

i dont speak dutch only maybe 20 words

dutch poliitcis id say is phoney except if its pim

you dont know usa terms i guess so we cant communicate much, plus i type bad

Guess I am dumb....*shrug*...

RavennaSeattle1911

well whats the gist of it?

you want what? a very liberal person in?

so who won?whos ahead in the poll?

what else is there to say about it?

Obi Once

If you'd really wanna know u'd read some of the posts, the election was 22 november, so I dunno anout the next polls, but in a nutshell CDA (Christain Conservatives) and PvdA (Labour) are the biggest 2 and need another small party. Which from the looks of might be another Christian party: CU (who thinks very different about laws as abortion, coffeeshops and mostly what NL is 'known' for), but since they put in just a few seats, they cant expect much.

Kushikushun

RavennaSeattle1911 wrote:

well whats the gist of it?

you want what? a very liberal person in?

so who won?whos ahead in the poll?

what else is there to say about it?

-See Obi Once and earlier posts on the first question.

-I would like a more social, but especially more thoughtfull government who do not go with whatever is popular belief (like Pim did, btw...read up on him...really!).

-The social party (SP) and party for freedom (more extreme right wing) won the most seats compared to the other years. However the CDA (christian democrats) and PVDA (workers party...liberal and social) are the two biggest. Both have lost seats compared to last year though.

-Theres not much more to say about it at the moment because we are still waiting for them to form a coalition...they are discussing who wants to collaborate with who.


I hope that answers your questions, dont mind answering more as long as you dont starting throwing b*ullsh*t AGAIN...and you know what....I am not dumb...*shrug*...

disconnected

Well, for now it looks like we are going to have an CDA, PvdA and CU coalition. There are going to negotiate about an new government. It doesn't mean that we get this government.

parel jam

disconnected wrote:

Well, for now it looks like we are going to have an CDA, PvdA and CU coalition. There are going to negotiate about an new government. It doesn't mean that we get this government.

I don't think they will make a good government together...

disconnected

parel jam wrote:

I don't think they will make a good government together...

Well, if it is coming, will it be a stable government?

Obi Once

They need a 3rd small party, CU could be that few seats they need, but they have quite an anti progressive vision on some of the liberties like abortion, euthanesia and the soft drugs program which kinda defy this country. I really hope (and presume) there are good policies now around these options and i think each individual should be able to make these choices for themselves.

And I believe in these choices. I know a man who will de because all the strength in his musscles fades away over time, all his mussclesm, I believe he should have a choice whether to go thru that. I know a voulnerable girl who had an abortion because she was too young and was just starting her life. And as long as ID's are asked in coffee shops.. I'm all for these options.

Yet all systems have their flaws.. People who work in liqour stores are supposed to sort out problem cases and report them, yet they tell customers on sunday morning they better buy more because the next time they come in, later on the day, he will be back and so drunk he can hardly stand asking for more, week in & out.

Im rambling.. Anyways I'd rather see Groen Links talking with PvdA and CDA

parel jam

Obi Once wrote:

They need a 3rd small party, CU could be that few seats they need, but they have quite an anti progressive vision on some of the liberties like abortion, euthanesia and the soft drugs program which kinda defy this country. I really hope (and presume) there are good policies now around these options and i think each individual should be able to make these choices for themselves.

And I believe in these choices. I know a man who will de because all the strength in his musscles fades away over time, all his mussclesm, I believe he should have a choice whether to go thru that. I know a voulnerable girl who had an abortion because she was too young and was just starting her life. And as long as ID's are asked in coffee shops.. I'm all for these options.

Yet all systems have their flaws.. People who work in liqour stores are supposed to sort out problem cases and report them, yet they tell customers on sunday morning they better buy more because the next time they come in, later on the day, he will be back and so drunk he can hardly stand asking for more, week in & out.

Im rambling.. Anyways I'd rather see Groen Links talking with PvdA and CDA

You forgot gay marriage

Kushikushun

CDA, PVDA and CU it seems....hmmm, not too happy with that.
CU sucks, they are ppl who suffer from a sincere form of the 'tunnelvision syndrome'!!!!!
They reject all the things I believe in and more....

And Balk-ellende for prime-minister again :(. I just dont want to think about it anymore, it makes me sad that they just didnt listen to what they ppl are saying and have clearly VOTED for!
I hope CU doesnt get too much room and Jan Marijnissen is able to fight off all the b*llsh*t they want to throw at us....lets get some tomatoes ready!

Wanna wish everybody here a wonderful KERSTMIS! Don't eat too much, think of the 'Voedselbanken' .....but have a great time nonetheless!

And thanks for the interest for this thread!

*hug*

disconnected

Kushikushun wrote:

CDA, PVDA and CU it seems....hmmm, not too happy with that.
CU sucks, they are ppl who suffer from a sincere form of the 'tunnelvision syndrome'!!!!!
They reject all the things I believe in and more....

And Balk-ellende for prime-minister again :(. I just dont want to think about it anymore, it makes me sad that they just didnt listen to what they ppl are saying and have clearly VOTED for!
I hope CU doesnt get too much room and Jan Marijnissen is able to fight off all the b*llsh*t they want to throw at us....lets get some tomatoes ready!

Wanna wish everybody here a wonderful KERSTMIS! Don't eat too much, think of the 'Voedselbanken' .....but have a great time nonetheless!

And thanks for the interest for this thread!

*hug*

I agree on this one.
May you also have a wonderfull kerstmis!

Obi Once

Kushikushun wrote:

Don't eat too much, think of the 'Voedselbanken' .....but have a great time nonetheless!

Ugh do I have to? I'll hand out some liga's tomorrow and then stuff myself full, k?

Kushikushun

Obi Once wrote:

Ugh do I have to? I'll hand out some liga's tomorrow and then stuff myself full, k?

Sorry..hehe...just have a wonderfull time!

RavennaSeattle1911

Kushikushun wrote:

CDA, PVDA and CU it seems....hmmm, not too happy with that.
CU sucks, they are ppl who suffer from a sincere form of the 'tunnelvision syndrome'!!!!!
They reject all the things I believe in and more....

And Balk-ellende for prime-minister again :(. I just dont want to think about it anymore, it makes me sad that they just didnt listen to what they ppl are saying and have clearly VOTED for!
I hope CU doesnt get too much room and Jan Marijnissen is able to fight off all the b*llsh*t they want to throw at us....lets get some tomatoes ready!

Wanna wish everybody here a wonderful KERSTMIS! Don't eat too much, think of the 'Voedselbanken' .....but have a great time nonetheless!

And thanks for the interest for this thread!

*hug*

Kushikushun means what? whats that word?

so what do you want?an influx of muslims ?cheep pot?

bush let in a lot of riussian muslims- bush must be a muslim himself

Kushikushun

RavennaSeattle1911 wrote:

Kushikushun means what? whats that word?

so what do you want?an influx of muslims ?cheep pot?

bush let in a lot of riussian muslims- bush must be a muslim himself

1] Maybe if you stop insulting me and if you are TRULY interested I will let you know what Kushikushun means...
However if you feel like looking it up..its Quechua. The Inca language still spoken by millions of people living in the Andes today and where I have spent some months living and working last year.

2] I do not want an influx of muslims specifically, but I want ppl to be able to find a safe haven here when they have to flee their country because of SERIOUS problems and I do not care whether ppl are white, black, green, catholic, muslim or buddhist..whatever..ppl in need are ppl in need! Like our grandparents where in WO2..imagine Switserland asking them for all the right papers and putting them in prisons and stuff!! My granddads both had to serve in working camps by the Germans and one of them tried to flee..he was helped by ppl, who didnt have too...so why not help others who have their life threatened as well?!
I do however feel that ppl who find our society impossible to deal with should find another place to call their home. But the line isnt straight in the middle of black and white...there is a big grey area. Reality cannot be confined into little clear cut compartments!!!! And our last government (AND Pim Fortuyn may I add again) where trying to put their ignorant laws into these definite terms and concepts. It just doesnt work that way...as Rita Verdonk has clearly demonstrated for us all.

3] Where did you get the idea from that I am for free pot??? I do think our policy of legalising the use of soft-drugs has only proven to lessen the need for it. Haven't got numbers to show you but I bet I could find them...just dont feel your manner of discussing things is worth the effort! And want to add that as most Dutch ppl I do not use weed. Tried maybe three times and didnt think too much of it.

4] Bush is an idiot! I dont understand your argumentation for him being a Muslim though, but I guess thats your humor??!
Or are you gonna tell me again that my English is just soo bad that we cant communicate in a profound manner?!

Any more questions...or superficial remarks?

RavennaSeattle1911

did i say that? i think you type correct english now-maybe in another post i was unclear on something

all i asked was whats your bottom line on what you want for holland is all-ok you want to help people-whatever -i suppose i do too to a degree ,but i wonder how many are scammers

and this forum is a pain because it wont display -it refuses to connect with the server half the time

i dont type well or write great english myself probably

i am for legal pot myself

RavennaSeattle1911

i sort of know two people or one from holland and he described it as crime ridden in amsterdam and weird stuff

other than that i dont know why i posted on this thread

im just a screwed up/depressed guy 52 in usa -so dont take it so PERSONAL
i am part cherokee so id have some interest in incas i guess or did in past now not as much because i look white anyway and racists increse in usa and arrogant invaders -now i sound like pym again i suppose

if i was there i might have voted for him

how much diferent are you from swiss who vote on most issues?id say holland is very diferent -youre like usa and uk -were screwed!!

disconnected

Kushikushun wrote:

(...) My granddads both had to serve in working camps by the Germans and (...)

Which camp? My grandpa was transferred to the German island Borkum.

the face

on the left hand side. dunno. can't get that freaking song out of my head now. seriously now, you dutchies are sure passionate about your politics. this is one serious thread. why you would argue with american teenagers who just know Holland because of pot is beyond me. Personally I think Holland is fabulous and hope you have a fabulous election. Please take all the muslims you want. You can even have ours and I am sure the Brits, Germans and French too will be happy to part with theirs. Maybe you can get them all high and find them hookers and then they wont want to crash planes into our buildings just to get laid.

There. Everyone is happy now.

Obi Once

the face wrote:

Maybe you can get them all high and find them hookers and then they wont want to crash planes into our buildings just to get laid.

There. Everyone is happy now.

Tadaa! If just everyone could be happy, educated, well fed, laid, high now n than and could decide what to do with their lives individually... Lennon's Imagine song could come true.

Merry Xmas y'all

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