Ralph Nader --- Don't Waste your vote for this Hypocrite

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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    El_Kabong wrote:
    he just paid off his student loans last year and yet he has invested thousands into mutual funds, like naders, for a few years and a few years ago bought a home for over a million dollars....let's not try to paint it as obama is some pauper or anything. his wife is on the board of a few places and receives hundreds of thousands from a supposed non-profit hospital (which if you compare profit compared to ceo pay this non-profit hospital's ceo made a bigger % than the ceo of wal-mart)

    i assume your trying to paint them as wealthy... which they have not been. a million dollar home is not what it once was good friend...

    i am supposed to hold them accountable for making money after getting Ivy League educations? i dont think so. they had student loans just like me for christs sake


    and it has nothign to do with the BLATANT hypocricy of Mr Nader and his wall street investments... spin it how you want
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    El_Kabong wrote:
    not in the least, but if you reply in a thread it's not unthinkable that someone will reply to you


    uh oh, here comes the tag team...
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    my2hands wrote:
    uh oh, here comes the tag team...


    oh, i'm sorry, have you guys worked on that posting schedule for me and abook yet so i can know when i'm allowed to post?

    i don't want to take away that title from you, flywallyfly and sweetpotato...great way to address my point....oh wait, i forgot who i was replying to
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    El_Kabong wrote:
    you answered the 2nd part of her question but not the 1st


    you and abook running around demanding people answer your questions is getting real old dude


    who the hell do you 2 think you are?
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    i honestly ignore most of the stuff on here right now that is about obama... peopel are stretching so much shit it isnt even funny or just repeating horse shit


    like those bills you were railing agianst that were actually good bills...


    or the guy that said Obama was supporting Lieberman in 2006 against Lamont... that was bullshit but it isnt worth my time or effort... Obama flat out supported Lamont againt Lieberman in 2006 but why am i going to argue with some jackass about that for? i wont change his mind and he will simply cling to the next half truth or lie that comes out
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    my2hands wrote:
    i assume your trying to paint them as wealthy... which they have not been. a million dollar home is not what it once was good friend...

    i am supposed to hold them accountable for making money after getting Ivy League educations? i dont think so. the had student loans just like me for christs sake


    and it has nothign to do with the BLATANT hypocricy of Mr Nader and his wall street investments... spin it how you want


    do you live in a home that cost over a million dollars? what was your point of
    'the man just paid off his student loans last year after his book sales...' ?

    i am pointing out that despite all you post about 'investing in wall street' nader lives off a meager $25,000 a year. he doesn't live in a home that cost over a million dollars (and factor in that he got a deal on the house). does obama only have 1 home or more? the point is they are making far more money from the things you are criticizing nader for! and the main difference is nader puts that money back into things working for the ppl, not huge mansions. and nader isn't taking hundreds of thousands from something he claims is a non-profit


    ' i am not too concerned with his investment portfolio'

    then why are you concerned w/ naders??? :confused:
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    my2hands wrote:
    you and abook running around demanding people answer your questions is getting real old dude


    who the hell do you 2 think you are?


    ok, then don't answer it....

    and that is real funny coming from you when you and sweetpotato try to force ppl to answer your questions.

    and besides, how is saying you didn't answer a question 'forcing him'???
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    El_Kabong wrote:
    you answered the 2nd part of her question but not the 1st

    Sorry about that, lol. Wow. Unbelieveable.
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    my2hands wrote:
    i honestly ignore most of the stuff on here right now that is about obama... peopel are stretching so much shit it isnt even funny or just repeating horse shit


    like those bills you were railing agianst that were actually good bills...


    or the guy that said Obama was supporting Lieberman in 2006 against Lamont... that was bullshit but it isnt worth my time or effort... Obama flat out supported Lamont againt Lieberman in 2006 but why am i going to argue with some jackass about that for? i wont change his mind and he will simply cling to the next half truth or lie that comes out


    nice way to prove your point...just call it horse shit

    HOW did obama support lamont? all he did was send an email of support while he actually went out and campaigned for lieberman

    so how did he 'flat out support' lamont but just a single email????

    what about obama lying on a national debate when he said the chair of his new hampshire campaign wasn't a pharmaceutical lobbyist when, in fact, he was (for 2 pharma companies)? i guess you don't care about that, either? what about when he said in an earlier debate the only way he knew rezko was by doing a few minutes of work on a case along w/ lots of other lawyers? i guess the fact that rezko was one of his finance chairs for his senate campaign and held fundraisers at his mansion for obama and bought a house next door to him and land from him...all slipped his mind? oh, right...you don't care

    right, they were all good bills, just like, according to you, the patriot act is a pretty good piece of legislation

    and if you wanna talk about horse shit let's take a look at your 'nader is a union buster and war profiteer!!' posts :rolleyes:

    do most war profiteers live off of $25,000 a year???
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Sorry about that, lol. Wow. Unbelieveable.


    just thought you might want to state where you stand is all...you guys keep asking questions then cry the minute anyone asks any in return
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • The lesser of two evils argument? Interesting.


    No, I'm quite proud of standing behind Nader and I admire him very much. I've said as much repeatedly...
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • my2hands wrote:
    yeah, keep assuming abook

    still worried about me and who i am voting for i see :rolleyes:


    have a good day


    How was that an assumption? It based on what you actually say...

    And how does pointing out that you don't care about anything critical of Obama equate to worrying about who you're voting for? You came into to this thread and then get all pissy when confronted about your stances....typical.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    El_Kabong wrote:
    oh wait, i forgot who i was replying to
    pretty sure they're all jlew...
  • my2hands wrote:
    uh oh, here comes the tag team...


    what, is sweet potato coming to help you and flywally out? The three anti-nader amigos


    get over it.

    I don't remember you giving a shit about it when we were posting about things you agreed with but NOW you have the problem....

    your consistency skills are astounding.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Strangest TribeStrangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    Nader's mind is not grounded in reality.

    I don't believe that a man that is OCD, never married and lives off $25000 or less per year has a grip on what the avg American wants or needs.


    ....just sayin'

    I don't have a link or youtube post here for this.... forgive me
    the Minions
  • my2hands wrote:
    you and abook running around demanding people answer your questions is getting real old dude


    who the hell do you 2 think you are?


    A tad bit over dramatic there, buddy. All he did was ask about the other part of the question being skipped over...I'm actually pretty curious about it, myself. And this is nothing new to the AMT when questions are left unanswered in replies...
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • pretty sure they're all jlew...


    :D

    or at least all on the same level....just sayin'
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    Nader's mind is not grounded in reality.

    I don't believe that a man that is OCD, never married and lives off $25000 or less per year has a grip on what the avg American wants or needs.


    ....just sayin'

    I don't have a link or youtube post here for this.... forgive me
    Thank God. The "average American" is pretty pathetic IMO. Nader is trying to improve this country and has been his entire life. And marriage isn't what it's all cracked up to be anyway...

    Edit: Nader has never been happy with "average", IMO
  • Nader's mind is not grounded in reality.

    I don't believe that a man that is OCD, never married and lives off $25000 or less per year has a grip on what the avg American wants or needs.


    ....just sayin'

    I don't have a link or youtube post here for this.... forgive me

    Brilliant and articulate points as usual!

    I'm simply wowed.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Brilliant and articulate points as usual!

    I'm simply wowed.


    hey, no fair!!!! according to the posting schedule pm'd to me this is MY time to post, abook, you have to wait at least an hour after my last post before you may reply on this board!!!!

    my2haaaaaaaaands, abooks not following the schedule!!!!!!!


    and as to your point...color me awed


    oh, my2hands, whatever happened to your 'all encompassing thread' idea about candidates??? shouldn't you have made an all encompassing nader thread like your obama one?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Nader's mind is not grounded in reality.

    I don't believe that a man that is OCD, never married and lives off $25000 or less per year has a grip on what the avg American wants or needs.


    ....just sayin'

    I don't have a link or youtube post here for this.... forgive me


    but someone who has played poker w/ lobbyists for years and have them as their campaign chair then lie about it, among other things, and lives in a mansion has a better grip??
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • El_Kabong wrote:
    hey, no fair!!!! according to the posting schedule pm'd to me this is MY time to post, abook, you have to wait at least an hour after my last post before you may reply on this board!!!!

    my2haaaaaaaaands, abooks not following the schedule!!!!!!!


    and as to your point...color me awed


    oh, my2hands, whatever happened to your 'all encompassing thread' idea about candidates??? shouldn't you have made an all encompassing nader thread like your obama one?


    Look asshole, you're the one having the audacity to inquire as to why someone didn't answer a question you were curious about!!!!! How low can you actually stoop, Kabong! Fucking Christ!! Quit being a dick!
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Look asshole, you're the one having the audacity to inquire as to why someone didn't answer a question you were curious about!!!!! How low can you actually stoop, Kabong! Fucking Christ!! Quit being a dick!


    yeah, but i did it within MY scheduled posting time so :p piss off ya posting interloper!
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • Strangest TribeStrangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    Thank God. The "average American" is pretty pathetic IMO. Nader is trying to improve this country and has been his entire life. And marriage isn't what it's all cracked up to be anyway...

    Edit: Nader has never been happy with "average", IMO

    So the avg. American that makes more than $25000, works hard, has a family and enjoy's his/her life and community is pathetic.

    Nader does not meet any of the above criteria.

    he's always miserable... we don't need him in charge.

    he's good at what he does already.

    He's not a good choice for a third party.
    the Minions
  • Strangest TribeStrangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    Brilliant and articulate points as usual!

    I'm simply wowed.

    You're him aren't you???

    Hi Ralph!!!


    get laid will ya!!!
    the Minions
  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    So the avg. American that makes more than $25000, works hard, has a family and enjoy's his/her life and community is pathetic.

    Nader does not meet any of the above criteria.

    he's always miserable... we don't need him in charge.

    he's good at what he does already.

    He's not a good choice for a third party.


    no, nader makes more than $25,000, but he gives it to his non-profit organizations and to help the ppl, not buying homes for over a million dollars

    see, helping ppl as opposed to spending it on things and himself
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • Strangest TribeStrangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    El_Kabong wrote:
    but someone who has played poker w/ lobbyists for years and have them as their campaign chair then lie about it, among other things, and lives in a mansion has a better grip??

    not exactly a bullseye.... but closer to the center than your guy that's lost in the woods still trying to figure out if a tree makes a noise when it falls.
    the Minions
  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    So the avg. American that makes more than $25000, works hard, has a family and enjoy's his/her life and community is pathetic.
    No, just the average american who cannot see the irony in bashing a man who's out there busting his ass to improve america, and who's actually done it! his entire life....that's what I refer to as pathetic.
  • Strangest TribeStrangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    El_Kabong wrote:
    no, nader makes more than $25,000, but he gives it to his non-profit organizations and to help the ppl, not buying homes for over a million dollars

    see, helping ppl as opposed to spending it on things and himself

    so he's not selfish...that's good...helping people is always good... I like him for that.

    does he have something against spending money on himself, maybe taking a vacation, going on a cruise.... you know enjoying life... maybe see PJ in concert.

    Does he have a problem with having some fun???

    I don't want someone in office that believes I should live like he has


    ....that's all I'm saying.... again...I don't have any link to support my facts or credibility

    I'm coming straight from the streets with this....

    word!
    the Minions
  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    The thing is, Strangest Tribe, if you educate yourself then you will very likely find that Nader is WORKING for the things you really want, rather than Obama TALKING about them.

    That's what I'm referring to when I say the average american is pathetic. We're pathetic because we're ignorant. Why are we ignorant? Because we're lazy. Because we watch TV all fucking night and call it "news".
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