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Ralph Nader --- Don't Waste your vote for this Hypocrite

Strangest TribeStrangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
edited June 2008 in A Moving Train
http://www.realchange.org/nader.htm#hypocrite


please people don't waste your vote on this piece of shit
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  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    All of this has already been discussed into the ground here months ago....just as the Obama scandals have been, too.

    I think we came to the consensus to discuss their policies, platforms and records instead because this tit for tat kind of thing can go on forever.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Strangest TribeStrangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    I must have missed it all.... but I'm not here every day.

    Oh well, I must have missed the vote we had about censoring future threads criticizing Lord Nader.
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  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    I must have missed it all.... but I'm not here every day.

    Oh well, I must have missed the vote we had about censoring future threads criticizing Lord Nader.


    You weren't here then would be the correct way to put it.

    And you can talk about it all you want but it's all old news to most.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    At least I don't start threads demanding people to vote the way I'd like them to.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Rhinocerous SurpriseRhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    At least I don't start threads demanding people to vote the way I'd like them to.

    "You! Vote while standing on one foot, while humming the Imperial March!"
    Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5446201&postcount=85
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Strangest TribeStrangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    The site I found has a whole bunch more stuff that hasn't been discussed yet.

    Ralph isn't really a saint is he?
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  • Strangest TribeStrangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    "You! Vote while standing on one foot, while humming the Imperial March!"

    You're from Ireland???

    Why should you care? I don't nose around in one of your country's websites to argue your elections.
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  • Rhinocerous SurpriseRhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    You're from Ireland???

    Why should you care? I don't nose around in one of your country's websites to argue your elections.

    1) I wasn't aware websites were restricted by country.
    2) My location says Ireland. Who's to say I'm not American?
    3) You're more than welcome to discuss Irish elections whenever you feel like it.
    4) I care because a lot of GLOBAL consequences hinge on the actions of YOUR government.
    5) Grow the hell up.
    Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
  • Strangest TribeStrangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    You weren't here then would be the correct way to put it.


    explain please
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    http://www.realchange.org/nader.htm#hypocrite


    please people don't waste your vote on this piece of shit


    another one see's the light
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    don't mind if I do.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyzI9u6--MM

    http://jischinger.wordpress.com/2008/02/24/obama%E2%80%99s-money-cartel/

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=281503

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showthread.php?t=278250

    http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/judicial-watch-obama-intended-to-leave-no-paper-trail-2008-03-26.html

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5254037&postcount=98

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5254037&postcount=98

    http://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/obamas-secret-war-profiteering-tax-by-greg-palast/

    http://beyondchron.org/news/index.php?itemid=5413#more
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    my2hands wrote:
    another one see's the light


    oh course....only those that agree with you can see the sacred light....
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    This thread has potential. I'm gonna go grab another beer and roll me a fatty.
  • Strangest TribeStrangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    All of this has already been discussed into the ground here months ago....just as the Obama scandals have been, too.

    I think we came to the consensus to discuss their policies, platforms and records instead because this tit for tat kind of thing can go on forever.

    funny you just said this today, how do you explain your 180 turn on this?

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5515756&postcount=12
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  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    flywallyfly wrote:
    This thread has potential. I'm gonna go grab another beer and roll me a fatty.

    Nice sig (of course, not as nice as mine) but I doubt you'll think it's so funny when Obama actually picks her as his running mate. :)
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    funny you just said this today, how do you explain your 180 turn on this?

    http://forums.pearljam.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=5515756


    I don't get it. Where have I said not to criticize Nader on his platform and record? :confused:

    I personally don't want to spend a lot of time discussing personal matters that we have no way of knowing all the context of or surrounding circumstances and are spun in whatever way people want it to be because of that. But if you're gonna bring this kind of stuff up in this thread then I feel it's only fair for me to add the other side.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Strangest TribeStrangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    1) I wasn't aware websites were restricted by country.
    2) My location says Ireland. Who's to say I'm not American?
    3) You're more than welcome to discuss Irish elections whenever you feel like it.
    4) I care because a lot of GLOBAL consequences hinge on the actions of YOUR government.
    5) Grow the hell up.

    easy there... have a drink


    please don't curse at me
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  • dontloseyourheatdontloseyourheat Posts: 483
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    easy there... have a drink


    please don't curse at me

    Don't curse at me but Ralph Nader is a piece of shit ;)
    "Don't lose your inner heat...ever" - EV 5/13/06
  • Strangest TribeStrangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    I don't get it. Where have I said not to criticize Nader on his platform and record? :confused:

    I personally don't want to spend a lot of time discussing personal matters that we have no way of knowing all the context of or surrounding circumstances and are spun in whatever way people want it to be because of that. But if you're gonna bring this kind of stuff up in this thread then I feel it's only fair for me to add the other side.

    so you get a little rash on your bottom when we dig dirt on Ralphie???

    but you can bash Obama because that"s criticism and we should be okay with that???
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  • Strangest TribeStrangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    dontloseyourheat wrote:
    Don't curse at me but Ralph Nader is a piece of shit ;)

    heh :D
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  • Rhinocerous SurpriseRhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    easy there... have a drink


    please don't curse at me

    You live here
    Smokey Robinson constantly looks like he's trying to act natural after being accused of farting.
  • Strangest TribeStrangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    At least I don't start threads demanding people to vote the way I'd like them to.

    I said please. :)
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  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    so you get a little rash on your bottom when we dig dirt on Ralphie???

    but you can bash Obama because that"s criticism and we should be okay with that???


    Did you not understand what I just said in my last post where I answered this already? 'Criticism of his political work and career'.....that's the difference between mudslinging and researching a candidate's stances and record.


    And no rash...you guys dig all you want and you'll find 2 or 3 personal based stories and act like you've found the holy grail while I sit back and giggle at how easy as hell it is to post dirt on Obama.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Strangest TribeStrangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Did you not understand what I just said in my last post where I answered this already? 'Criticism of his political work and career'.....that's the difference between mudslinging and researching a candidate's stances and record.


    And no rash...you guys dig all you want and you'll find 2 or 3 personal based stories and act like you've found the holy grail while I sit back and giggle at how easy as hell it is to post dirt on Obama.

    2 or 3???

    did you even look at the website? more like 30.

    and it involves his career as well.... I don't think he's actually held any political offices like senator or governor ....so we can't bash him on his lack of political experience.. or can we???? yeah we can.

    Ralph Nader is really a weird creepy guy isn't he??? Did you read all this?


    http://www.realchange.org/nader.htm

    wow, no wonder Pearl Jam jumped off the Nader bandwagon years ago.
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  • El_KabongEl_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    my2hands wrote:
    another one see's the light


    tell me about it

    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=4488696&postcount=32
    http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=4489231&postcount=48
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • Eliot RosewaterEliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    2 or 3???

    did you even look at the website? more like 30.

    and it involves his career as well.... I don't think he's actually held any political offices like senator or governor ....so we can't bash him on his lack of political experience.. or can we???? yeah we can.

    Ralph Nader is really a weird creepy guy isn't he??? Did you read all this?


    http://www.realchange.org/nader.htm

    wow, no wonder Pearl Jam jumped off the Nader bandwagon years ago.
    so what's new in chicago? How's the print shop?.... :D
  • AbookamongstthemanyAbookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    2 or 3???

    did you even look at the website? more like 30.

    and it involves his career as well.... I don't think he's actually held any political offices like senator or governor ....so we can't bash him on his lack of political experience.. or can we???? yeah we can.

    Ralph Nader is really a weird creepy guy isn't he??? Did you read all this?


    http://www.realchange.org/nader.htm

    wow, no wonder Pearl Jam jumped off the Nader bandwagon years ago.

    30 substantial stories with dirt on Nader? That site is filled with extremely biased opinion fluff. No one would use most of that crap as some kind of serious source.

    The union busting claim had been debunked and the claim was brought on by two employees who had actually been fired by Nader for running a piece that he didn't authorize and THEN cried foul after words. Not to mention how having unions in non-profits is not even close to the same thing as a regular employer because money and resources are extremely scarce PLUS they are working for causes not for profit. That seems obvious enough and I posted a good piece a few months on just how tricky the subject of unions inside non-profits is. AND Nader has allowed some unions inside some of his groups which makes this claim look even more like bullshit....sorry, nice try.

    The stocks claim is based on a fidelity portfolio and most people don't even know where their money is being directed in those cases. And at least any money he gets from those goes to great causes that hinder those corporations To me it's small beans compared to actually holding office and making vote that make it easier for your donors such as Obama has done with his credit card cap vote and the nuclear power legislation he watered down.

    The rest is just personal attacks of no substance that you would expect to see on some horrid mudslinging campaign commercial.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • normnorm Posts: 31,146
    pace yourselves kids.....you've got 4 months to sling shit :)
  • Strangest TribeStrangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    Eliot Rosewater wrote:
    so what's new in chicago? How's the print shop?.... :D

    I think I've been sniffing too many fumes lately....

    bored.

    tonight I'm bashing Nader, feel guilty about it though, haven't bashed him since he shat on the Greens.

    Did some Green bashing earlier.
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