You all cool with the president be chosen

stupidcorporatewhore

Doesn't seem like you are interested in a debate, but here we go....

Unless they cheat again McCain has the overwhelming task of re-selling the war.

Mccain is also pushing change. A change from what? all the policies he's supported the last 8 years?

40 years in Washington has yielded a lot of good things, but he's also got a lot of dirt. He was one of the Keating five after all.

Under direct questioning the house of cards will fall.

however, McCain does have the one endorsement that really counts...

Diebold.

blackredyellow

macgyver06 wrote:

thats right and the democrats ignored him and banned him from debates...and its their faults they are going to lose

i wouldnt expect you apparently understand why

I wouldn't really expect anyone to understand a lot of what you say.

macgyver06 wrote:

and they ask the question

What is your stance on the Iraq war?

Obama doesnt have one

McCain does

ummm... right... Don't confuse you not knowing his stance on the Iraq war with him not having one.

RainDog

macgyver06 wrote:

if this is the case... why is he going to be the nominee?? picture Obama up on stage and McCain up on stage

and they ask the question

What is your stance on the Iraq war?

Obama doesnt have one

McCain does


you dont think this could look bad for obama in a national VERY VERY popular debate..

In debates, Obama has stated that he will immediately begin drawing down troop levels at a rate of one to two brigades per month, with a goal of having all combat troops out in 16 months. He also said he would not build any permanent bases in Iraq, and only keep enough troops in the country to secure U.S. sites like our Embassy. Then, he would restructure our anti-terrorist actions so that they are primarily fronted by Special Forces. That's off the top of my head.

They both have plans, so you're wrong on that point. Whether Obama's plan earns him more votes than McCain's remains to be seen. But to say that there is no plan is - well, up there with saying the only person that could beat McCain is Gravel.

stupidcorporatewhore

macgyver06 wrote:

if this is the case... why is he going to be the nominee?? picture Obama up on stage and McCain up on stage

and they ask the question

What is your stance on the Iraq war?

Obama doesnt have one

McCain does


you dont think this could look bad for obama in a national VERY VERY popular debate..

Obama doesn't have a stance on the war?

can I have some of what you are smoking?

it's pretty simple

If Americans vote for "endless war" than we deserve what we get.

soulsinging

macgyver06 wrote:

stop lying to yourself..hes a war hero.. the only guy who could of defeated him is Gravel..both with ties to vietnam...a fine line between the two

instead its gonna be clinton or obama and no one knows what the hell they stand for... when the debates start and they ask a war hero about america..

THE VOTES WILL ROLL IN

what difference does that make?

fyi, the post above is why you are delusional. the american people have turned on the war. mccain cannot win on it. it gives him no advantage. the dems kill him on all other issues and the republicans don't like him. he's going to lose. big.

cornnifer

macgyver06 wrote:

if this is the case... why is he going to be the nominee?? picture Obama up on stage and McCain up on stage

and they ask the question

What is your stance on the Iraq war?

Obama doesnt have one

McCain does


you dont think this could look bad for obama in a national VERY VERY popular debate..

Ya know what, i give up. You're absolutely right. You, hillary, and everyone else who says this shit. You're fucking brilliant. Obama has no positions on anything. Nothing. He's a wind bag. He's been standing around with his thumb in his ass for the past 13 months drooling on himself and winning the support if millions americans and landing many high profile endorsements. i wonder how? The guy hasn't got one position on anything.

ledvedderman

So you're bitter because your candidate isn't in the field anymore, so now you're going to support McCain?

No matter who the Democratic nominee is, I think they have the upper hand on John McCain.

Here's what I don't understand. Right now the Presidents nationwide approval rating is at 29%. So why the hell is John McCain running to embrace his policies? We'll just say the country is 50/50 between Dems and Republicans. That still means that almost half of the Republicans don't approve of the Bush policies either.

Flip flopping on the Bush tax cuts and torture is not the way to head into a general election. John McCain can talk all he wants about the surge working, but all it has really done is get the violence down to the level they were before the peak which caused us to send in more troops.

macgyver06

i would rather have obama than mccain but im not voting for either one...but im gonna remember this thread and these ridiculous replies and pull it back out in november.


sheep.



and to the ridiculous.. obama hasnt made clear his strategy

his plan is to move the troops from iraq and spread them around the middle east

i dont know about you...but is this open ended to anyone????

USE YOUR BRAINS!


facts.... its the only way to go people...anyone can call someone delusional...but the fact remains...

obama doesnt have a strategy

MCCAIN does...


this is going to make McCain president unless Obama starts being honest...this is the only way the democrats or any party can win... they werent honest in 2004 and they still arent in 2008...

soulsinging

macgyver06 wrote:

sheep.

the only insult of a liberal with nothing intelligent to say.

macgyver06

ledvedderman wrote:

So you're bitter because your candidate isn't in the field anymore, so now you're going to support McCain?

No matter who the Democratic nominee is, I think they have the upper hand on John McCain.

Here's what I don't understand. Right now the Presidents nationwide approval rating is at 29%. So why the hell is John McCain running to embrace his policies? We'll just say the country is 50/50 between Dems and Republicans. That still means that almost half of the Republicans don't approve of the Bush policies either.

Flip flopping on the Bush tax cuts and torture is not the way to head into a general election. John McCain can talk all he wants about the surge working, but all it has really done is get the violence down to the level they were before the peak which caused us to send in more troops.

dude... this makes sense to me and you... but when it comes time to vote..this country isnt going to vote based on history and facts

the majority are going to relate to an OLD WHITE MAN


this is your next president and is why i will state again

Gravel or Nader up against McCain are the only ones that could have beat him... Nader wont get air time and gravel has been silenced by a party who is content on losing another election... almost as if... the democrats are secretly republican trying to sabotage the election


THIS IS NOT DELUSION

and we shall see come november

RainDog

So, let me see if I follow here.

Obama's plan is to move troops out of Iraq and into other areas of the Middle East.

Obama doesn't have a plan.

Got it. Thanks for the - um - clarification.

macgyver06

soulsinging wrote:

the only insult of a liberal with nothing intelligent to say.

read a book...do some research before posting ridiculous replies... what is your motivation???? coming in here and bashing someone with no reply??

macgyver06

RainDog wrote:

So, let me see if I follow here.

Obama's plan is to move troops out of Iraq and into other areas of the Middle East.

Obama doesn't have a plan.

Got it. Thanks for the - um - clarification.

is that a plan to you? lol im not trying to trick you raindog... he has said..he will re-deploy troops elsewhere...

thats like bush saying..im gonna move 40,000 troops somewhere in asia


KINDA VAGUE RAINDOG???

RainDog

macgyver06 wrote:

is that a plan to you?

By the very definition of the word "plan," yes. It is a plan.

macgyver06

RainDog wrote:

By the very definition of the word "plan," yes. It is a plan.

??? what are you talking about??


are you telling me... you are in favor of a guy who says his plan is to re-deploy troops elsewhere?? THATS IT... no further questions... elect this man


im nto against obama... but when he says this on national tv when he is debating McCain... its going to bury him

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

dont feed the troll

macgyver06

MrSmith wrote:

dont feed the troll

i think in your on the wrong message board

soulsinging

macgyver06 wrote:

dude... this makes sense to me and you... but when it comes time to vote..this country isnt going to vote based on history and facts

the majority are going to relate to an OLD WHITE MAN


this is your next president and is why i will state again

Gravel or Nader up against McCain are the only ones that could have beat him... Nader wont get air time and gravel has been silenced by a party who is content on losing another election... almost as if... the democrats are secretly republican trying to sabotage the election


THIS IS NOT DELUSION

and we shall see come november

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA.

good god, that's the funniest thing i ever read. you say mccain will win becos he's a strong war leader and people like that, then you say NADER can beat him? what planet are you from? last i checked, nader was not much of a credible war guy.

ledvedderman

macgyver06 wrote:

??? what are you talking about??


are you telling me... you are in favor of a guy who says his plan is to re-deploy troops elsewhere?? THATS IT... no further questions... elect this man


im nto against obama... but when he says this on national tv when he is debating McCain... its going to bury him

Sorry man, but re-deploying the troops to Afghanistan sounds like a good idea to me.

soulsinging

macgyver06 wrote:

read a book...do some research before posting ridiculous replies... what is your motivation???? coming in here and bashing someone with no reply??

calling people 'sheep' rather than supporting your views with any form of what the rest of us call 'logic' is no reply.