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macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
edited March 2008 in A Moving Train
for you??


did you all not believe in 2004 that John McCain was gonna be president??



how could this happen again?


hmmmm
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  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    can anyone forsee the debates between obama/hillary vs. mccain


    any ideas on the how bad McCain is going to beat them?
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    ummm... no, i never thought mccain was going to be president in 04. he wasnt running.
  • BinFrogBinFrog MA Posts: 7,309
    I am awarding this a gold star for "Top 10 most unable to follow" post.

    What the heck are you trying to get us to respond to?
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  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    BinFrog wrote:
    I am awarding this a gold star for "Top 10 most unable to follow" post.

    What the heck are you trying to get us to respond to?


    do you think John McCain is going to lose?
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    soulsinging wrote:
    ummm... no, i never thought mccain was going to be president in 04. he wasnt running.


    heh good one!
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    macgyver06 wrote:
    do you think John McCain is going to lose?

    i think it's too early to tell. we don't even know for sure who he's running against.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    MrSmith wrote:
    heh good one!


    you don't remember the talks of John McCain running?


    thats not funny.. its sad ...

    too much acid?
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    macgyver06 wrote:
    do you think John McCain is going to lose?

    Ya, I do...

    He's 117 years old & conservatives hate him.

    The only reason that Bush won in 2004 is because of the conservative/evangelical voter turnout, and the fact that he was running against a candidate that no one could get excited about. This time around it's the opposite.
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  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    soulsinging wrote:
    i think it's too early to tell. we don't even know for sure who he's running against.


    stop lying to yourself..hes a war hero.. the only guy who could of defeated him is Gravel..both with ties to vietnam...a fine line between the two


    instead its gonna be clinton or obama and no one knows what the hell they stand for... when the debates start and they ask a war hero about america..


    THE VOTES WILL ROLL IN
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    blackredyellow wrote:
    Ya, I do...

    He's 117 years old & conservatives hate him.

    The only reason that Bush won in 2004 is because of the conservative/evangelical voter turnout, and the fact that he was running against a candidate that no one could get excited about. This time around it's the opposite.


    stop listening to your tv..
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    macgyver06 wrote:
    do you think John McCain is going to lose?

    It depends. Ask me again after Tuesday and i'll have a better idea. You're jumping the gun here, Sparky.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    macgyver06 wrote:
    stop lying to yourself..hes a war hero.. the only guy who could of defeated him is Gravel..both with ties to vietnam...a fine line between the two


    instead its gonna be clinton or obama and no one knows what the hell they stand for... when the debates start and they ask a war hero about america..


    THE VOTES WILL ROLL IN

    The only guy who could defeat him is Gravel? Are you serious??? hahahahahahaa.....
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    of a sunny day
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    ― Abraham Lincoln
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    cornnifer wrote:
    It depends. Ask me again after Tuesday and i'll have a better idea. You're jumping the gun here, Sparky.


    k i will pull this thread up on tuesday
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    blackredyellow wrote:
    The only guy who could defeat him is Gravel? Are you serious??? hahahahahahaa.....


    thats right and the democrats ignored him and banned him from debates...and its their faults they are going to lose

    i wouldnt expect you apparently understand why
  • MasterFramerMasterFramer Posts: 2,268
    macgyver06 wrote:
    stop lying to yourself..hes a war hero.. the only guy who could of defeated him is Gravel..both with ties to vietnam...a fine line between the two


    instead its gonna be clinton or obama and no one knows what the hell they stand for... when the debates start and they ask a war hero about america..


    THE VOTES WILL ROLL IN

    You are delusional...
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  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    MasterFramer wrote:
    You are delusional...


    explain how?? if not i will send this to mods.. ive banned twice by people for using hte word moron or dumbass..


    its crazy... but i have... explain why im delusional and you wont be banned for a couple hours or days
  • chipboychipboy Posts: 137
    I think he's going to lose and lose big. I'm a lifelong Republican as are most of my friends and relatives. Almost all of them have said they won't vote for McCain. At our Republican caucus he got exactly 1 vote out of 60. I've watched him in the debates and on the stump and he is not inspirational, motivational, or charasmatic. He will be up against this generation's Ronald Reagan. Our elections are a popularity contest more than anything else and he loses BIG to Obama. I see 60% -40% popular vote and a Reagan-Mondale liek landslide electorally. Obama has been running a near perfect campaign and I don't see what could possibly change between now and November to change that.

    McCain has two chances. A terrorist strike in the US or a fixed election.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    chipboy wrote:
    I think he's going to lose and lose big. I'm a lifelong Republican as are most of my friends and relatives. Almost all of them have said they won't vote for McCain. At our Republican caucus he got exactly 1 vote out of 60. I've watched him in the debates and on the stump and he is not inspirational, motivational, or charasmatic. He will be up against this generation's Ronald Reagan. Our elections are a popularity contest more than anything else and he loses BIG to Obama. I see 60% -40% popular vote and a Reagan-Mondale liek landslide electorally. Obama has been running a near perfect campaign and I don't see what could possibly change between now and November to change that.

    McCain has two chances. A terrorist strike in the US or a fixed election.


    if this is the case... why is he going to be the nominee?? picture Obama up on stage and McCain up on stage

    and they ask the question

    What is your stance on the Iraq war?

    Obama doesnt have one

    McCain does


    you dont think this could look bad for obama in a national VERY VERY popular debate..
  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    MasterFramer wrote:
    You are delusional...

    \he is the perfect definition of delusional. his wild theories and strange, illogical posts seldom sound like they come from a sound mind. Either that or he's a troll.

    ban me i dont care.
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    chipboy wrote:
    McCain has two chances. A terrorist strike in the US or a fixed election.
    Or a clinton nomination. Make that 3 chances.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • stupidcorporatewhorestupidcorporatewhore Posts: 761
    Doesn't seem like you are interested in a debate, but here we go....

    Unless they cheat again McCain has the overwhelming task of re-selling the war.

    Mccain is also pushing change. A change from what? all the policies he's supported the last 8 years?

    40 years in Washington has yielded a lot of good things, but he's also got a lot of dirt. He was one of the Keating five after all.

    Under direct questioning the house of cards will fall.

    however, McCain does have the one endorsement that really counts...

    Diebold.
  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    macgyver06 wrote:
    thats right and the democrats ignored him and banned him from debates...and its their faults they are going to lose

    i wouldnt expect you apparently understand why


    I wouldn't really expect anyone to understand a lot of what you say.

    macgyver06 wrote:
    and they ask the question

    What is your stance on the Iraq war?

    Obama doesnt have one

    McCain does

    ummm... right... Don't confuse you not knowing his stance on the Iraq war with him not having one.
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  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    macgyver06 wrote:
    if this is the case... why is he going to be the nominee?? picture Obama up on stage and McCain up on stage

    and they ask the question

    What is your stance on the Iraq war?

    Obama doesnt have one

    McCain does


    you dont think this could look bad for obama in a national VERY VERY popular debate..
    In debates, Obama has stated that he will immediately begin drawing down troop levels at a rate of one to two brigades per month, with a goal of having all combat troops out in 16 months. He also said he would not build any permanent bases in Iraq, and only keep enough troops in the country to secure U.S. sites like our Embassy. Then, he would restructure our anti-terrorist actions so that they are primarily fronted by Special Forces. That's off the top of my head.

    They both have plans, so you're wrong on that point. Whether Obama's plan earns him more votes than McCain's remains to be seen. But to say that there is no plan is - well, up there with saying the only person that could beat McCain is Gravel.
  • stupidcorporatewhorestupidcorporatewhore Posts: 761
    macgyver06 wrote:
    if this is the case... why is he going to be the nominee?? picture Obama up on stage and McCain up on stage

    and they ask the question

    What is your stance on the Iraq war?

    Obama doesnt have one

    McCain does


    you dont think this could look bad for obama in a national VERY VERY popular debate..

    Obama doesn't have a stance on the war?

    can I have some of what you are smoking?

    it's pretty simple

    If Americans vote for "endless war" than we deserve what we get.
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    macgyver06 wrote:
    stop lying to yourself..hes a war hero.. the only guy who could of defeated him is Gravel..both with ties to vietnam...a fine line between the two

    instead its gonna be clinton or obama and no one knows what the hell they stand for... when the debates start and they ask a war hero about america..

    THE VOTES WILL ROLL IN

    what difference does that make?

    fyi, the post above is why you are delusional. the american people have turned on the war. mccain cannot win on it. it gives him no advantage. the dems kill him on all other issues and the republicans don't like him. he's going to lose. big.
  • cornnifercornnifer Posts: 2,130
    macgyver06 wrote:
    if this is the case... why is he going to be the nominee?? picture Obama up on stage and McCain up on stage

    and they ask the question

    What is your stance on the Iraq war?

    Obama doesnt have one

    McCain does


    you dont think this could look bad for obama in a national VERY VERY popular debate..


    Ya know what, i give up. You're absolutely right. You, hillary, and everyone else who says this shit. You're fucking brilliant. Obama has no positions on anything. Nothing. He's a wind bag. He's been standing around with his thumb in his ass for the past 13 months drooling on himself and winning the support if millions americans and landing many high profile endorsements. i wonder how? The guy hasn't got one position on anything.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • ledveddermanledvedderman Posts: 7,761
    So you're bitter because your candidate isn't in the field anymore, so now you're going to support McCain?

    No matter who the Democratic nominee is, I think they have the upper hand on John McCain.

    Here's what I don't understand. Right now the Presidents nationwide approval rating is at 29%. So why the hell is John McCain running to embrace his policies? We'll just say the country is 50/50 between Dems and Republicans. That still means that almost half of the Republicans don't approve of the Bush policies either.

    Flip flopping on the Bush tax cuts and torture is not the way to head into a general election. John McCain can talk all he wants about the surge working, but all it has really done is get the violence down to the level they were before the peak which caused us to send in more troops.
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  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    i would rather have obama than mccain but im not voting for either one...but im gonna remember this thread and these ridiculous replies and pull it back out in november.


    sheep.



    and to the ridiculous.. obama hasnt made clear his strategy

    his plan is to move the troops from iraq and spread them around the middle east

    i dont know about you...but is this open ended to anyone????

    USE YOUR BRAINS!


    facts.... its the only way to go people...anyone can call someone delusional...but the fact remains...

    obama doesnt have a strategy

    MCCAIN does...


    this is going to make McCain president unless Obama starts being honest...this is the only way the democrats or any party can win... they werent honest in 2004 and they still arent in 2008...
  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    macgyver06 wrote:
    sheep.

    the only insult of a liberal with nothing intelligent to say.
  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    ledvedderman wrote:
    So you're bitter because your candidate isn't in the field anymore, so now you're going to support McCain?

    No matter who the Democratic nominee is, I think they have the upper hand on John McCain.

    Here's what I don't understand. Right now the Presidents nationwide approval rating is at 29%. So why the hell is John McCain running to embrace his policies? We'll just say the country is 50/50 between Dems and Republicans. That still means that almost half of the Republicans don't approve of the Bush policies either.

    Flip flopping on the Bush tax cuts and torture is not the way to head into a general election. John McCain can talk all he wants about the surge working, but all it has really done is get the violence down to the level they were before the peak which caused us to send in more troops.


    dude... this makes sense to me and you... but when it comes time to vote..this country isnt going to vote based on history and facts

    the majority are going to relate to an OLD WHITE MAN


    this is your next president and is why i will state again

    Gravel or Nader up against McCain are the only ones that could have beat him... Nader wont get air time and gravel has been silenced by a party who is content on losing another election... almost as if... the democrats are secretly republican trying to sabotage the election


    THIS IS NOT DELUSION

    and we shall see come november
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