Financial Revolution Underway Led by Global Banking System

RolandTD20Kdrummer

pearljamfan1212 wrote:

I have no idea what point you are trying to make here? Breath/Frog, I can quickly and easily see your frustration here.

seriously, what are you getting at? last I checked, the Saudis are not the Taliban so not sure why you felt the needs to do a quick bush saudi google image search?

are you trying to say the Taliban are not terrible people? do you agree with their treatment of women? maybe the way the punish with death for flying a kite?

My mistake I thought the 9/11 hijackers were mostly from Saudi Arabia, the leader of same guy that Bush is so often seen kissing and holding hands with.

Maybe if they used the gas chamber, lethal injection, the electric chair, at some point, and dressed differently things would be entirely different?

Does it still give one side the right to invade these countries and "show them the way" by shock and aweing them (and their women and children) as a solution?

I suppose it does.

I've never quite understood the pouring of gasoline on a fire as an example of how to put it out.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

pearljamfan1212 wrote:

AH. ok. thanks for clearing that up for me. I'll quietly leave this thread now. good luck guys. I guess the goal is to actually rile things up. not actually debate. not my cup of tea.

You're right there is no blatant hypocrisy and conflicts of interest in this matter to be observed.

pearljamfan1212

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

My mistake I thought the 9/11 hijackers were mostly from Saudi Arabia, the leader of same guy that Bush is so often seen kissing and holding hands with.

so are you saying we should have invaded saudi instead of Afghanistan?

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Does it still give one side the right to invade these countries and "show them the way" by shock and aweing them (and their women and children) as a solution?

in the case of Afghanistan, absolutely. they brought the war to our shores remember?

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I've never quite understood the pouring of gasoline on a fire as an example of how to put it out.

its war dude. a war started by al queda and supported by the Taliban.


now in the case of Iraq, your argument is 100% true. but we arent talking about that now are we.

pearljamfan1212

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

You're right there is no blatant hypocrisy and conflicts of interest in this matter to be observed.

I suggest brushing up on your debating skills. when confronted with a question you give goofy one liners and no sources when asked to back up such claims like "jews run the financial system". you dont seem like a dumb person, just a tad bit immature. again, no offense, just an observation.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

pearljamfan1212 wrote:

so are you saying we should have invaded saudi instead of Afghanistan?




in the case of Afghanistan, absolutely. they brought the war to our shores remember?



its war dude. a war started by al queda and supported by the Taliban.


now in the case of Iraq, your argument is 100% true. but we arent talking about that now are we.

Saudi Arabia adheres to some of the the most strict forms of Sharia law, but it's ok because Bush's father was/is on their payroll, and let's face it they bailed out Harken Energy for Bush Jr. so they have a free pass. A little cash injection, and all is forgiven.

Al-qaeda no outside influences to be found there. They started it that's for sure...sitting there one day and out of the blue...boom...instant terrorists. That's what the mainstream media tells us.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

pearljamfan1212 wrote:

I suggest brushing up on your debating skills. when confronted with a question you give goofy one liners and no sources when asked to back up such claims like "jews run the financial system". you dont seem like a dumb person, just a tad bit immature. again, no offense, just an observation.

So you don't see the hypocrisy?

You can observe realities, or play into them. It's your choice. Who heads up the FED and World bank? Look at the figure heads. Do you know who they are, and what they fundamentally believe in when push comes to shove?

Do you need a link for that?

pearljamfan1212

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Saudi Arabia adheres to some of the the most strict forms of Sharia law, but it's ok because Bush's father was/is on their payroll, and let's face it they bailed out Harken Energy for Bush Jr. so they have a free pass. A little cash injection, and all is forgiven.

so what do you suggest. should we invade them? Saudi government is horrible, I agree. but I see nothing to justify going to war with them.

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Al-qaeda no outside influences to be found there. They started it that's for sure...sitting there one day and out of the blue...boom...instant terrorists. That's what the mainstream media tells us.

omg

so you believe al queda isnt real? only some made up organization that the US uses as justification for going to war. I'm not even going to fancy an argument here.

pearljamfan1212

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

So you don't see the hypocrisy?

You can observe realities, or play into them. It's your choice. Who heads up the FED and World bank? Look at the figure heads. Do you know who they are, and what they fundamentally believe in when push comes to shove?

Do you need a link for that?

yes I need links, a reference to a book, examples of your claims, something. just saying "how can you not see it" isnt making an intelligent argument. just like the guy in the other thread saying "thats bullshit". not very smart.

and robert paulson heads the Fed, hes not a jew.

Robert Bruce Zoellick, ok he's a jew THEY RUN THE WORLD!!!

RolandTD20Kdrummer

pearljamfan1212 wrote:

so what do you suggest. should we invade them? Saudi government is horrible, I agree. but I see nothing to justify going to war with them.



omg

so you believe al queda isnt real? only some made up organization that the US uses as justification for going to war. I'm not even going to fancy an argument here.

I'm just pointing out the blatant hypocrisy depending on the circumstances to suit the various agendas. Can you see this?

I only need to look so far as US interference in Central America (and elsewhere around the globe) to get a good idea of how things operate, and have been for decades. Iran/Iraq war maybe? You can see that right? The whole enemy's enemy is a friend thing?

Does this not play into the thought process at some point?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

pearljamfan1212 wrote:

yes I need links, a reference to a book, examples of your claims, something. just saying "how can you not see it" isnt making an intelligent argument. just like the guy in the other thread saying "thats bullshit". not very smart.

and robert paulson heads the Fed, hes not a jew.

Robert Bruce Zoellick, ok he's a jew THEY RUN THE WORLD!!!

Is he not a zionist? Maybe I should have expanded the umbrella to hard right zionist thinking interests. Does it make sense then?

Give me control of a nations money and I care not who makes it's laws.

Where is the world financial structure heading right now, and why do you think it's amalgamating into one point of central control. Do you think it's random chance this is taking place?

Do you think it's random chance the world has been engulfed in a holy war against islam in general based on the concept you're either with us or against us?

It all ties to 9/11 without question. That's what started it all.

Israel is smack dab in the center of the storm. Have you taken a good hard look at the 9/11 hijackers and how that whole thing pans out?.. and why some are still alive?

Immediately after 9/11 they came out and said voila, we know who did it specifically. These guys....and they even found an unburned paper passport in the wtc wreckage as proof. Does that not strike you as incredibly odd? Then Iraq is attacked on top of it all? The fact that these guys couldn't even fly a Cessna if their lives depended on it according to their trainers yet can pull off mind boggling maneuvers in massive commercial airliners, that many commercial pilots are still scratching their heads over as to how it was done?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

I think if one reads through this, Al-Qaeda, and the Taliban are somewhat less than they are made out to be in the big picture.

http://www.chycho.com/?q=node/1907

So where does this all lead up to and for what reasons? Fighting al qaueda and the taliban to resolve the "issue" because they are by and large the root cause?

Is it a stretch to say they are most likely somewhat secondary to the process?

Is this a money game, or really just about fighting the war on terror?

pearljamfan1212

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

Is he not a zionist? Maybe I should have expanded the umbrella to hard right zionist thinking interests. Does it make sense then?

Give me control of a nations money and I care not who makes it's laws.

Where is the world financial structure heading right now, and why do you think it's amalgamating into one point of central control. Do you think it's random chance this is taking place?

Do you think it's random chance the world has been engulfed in a holy war against islam in general based on the concept you're either with us or against us?

It all ties to 9/11 without question. That's what started it all.

Israel is smack dab in the center of the storm. Have you taken a good hard look at the 9/11 hijackers and how that whole thing pans out?.. and why some are still alive?

Immediately after 9/11 they came out and said voila, we know who did it specifically. These guys....and they even found an unburned paper passport in the wtc wreckage as proof. Does that not strike you as incredibly odd? Then Iraq is attacked on top of it all? The fact that these guys couldn't even fly a Cessna if their lives depended on it according to their trainers yet can pull off mind boggling maneuvers in massive commercial airliners, that many commercial pilots are still scratching their heads over as to how it was done?

you ask good questions, sadly all of your points become mute once you claim some of the hijackers are still alive. and then blah blah blah 9/11 is a conspiracy. my god do people still really believe this?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

pearljamfan1212 wrote:

you ask good questions, sadly all of your points become mute once you claim some of the hijackers are still alive. and then blah blah blah 9/11 is a conspiracy. my god do people still really believe this?

The ones that have looked in to it more than face value, yes, there are many questions and inconsistencies left unanswered.

Everything hinges on 9/11. Everything. It all goes back to that day., and everything after it has been lies, lies, and more lies, so what do you think?

9/11 is automatically the truth? Statistically that is a really, really bad bet and assumption.

Regardless of how all the physics semantics aspects worked out, there was fore knowledge it was going to happen.

Looking at the all evidence, it was not a casual occurrence by any means. One would have to be incredibly close minded to state otherwise given the information.

pearljamfan1212

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I think if one reads through this, Al-Qaeda, and the Taliban are somewhat less than they are made out to be in the big picture.

http://www.chycho.com/?q=node/1907

So where does this all lead up to and for what reasons? Fighting al qaueda and the taliban to resolve the "issue" because they are by and large the root cause?

Is it a stretch to say they are most likely somewhat secondary to the process?

Is this a money game, or really just about fighting the war on terror?

I'm starting to get the feeling the whole world is out to get you. is that about right?

pearljamfan1212

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

The ones that have looked in to it more than face value, yes, there are many questions and inconsistencies left unanswered.

Everything hinges on 9/11. Everything. It all goes back to that day., and everything after it has been lies, lies, and more lies, so what do you think?

9/11 is automatically the truth? Statistically that is a really, really bad bet and assumption.

Regardless of how all the physics semantics aspects worked out, there was fore knowledge it was going to happen.

Looking at the all evidence, it was not a casual occurrence by any means. One would have to be incredibly close minded to state otherwise given the information.

um ok. but the hijackers are not alive.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

re living dead people...
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/hijackers.html

These guys are seeing their picture on TV and wondering what is going on.

so am I

RolandTD20Kdrummer

pearljamfan1212 wrote:

I'm starting to get the feeling the whole world is out to get you. is that about right?

hardly... I thought you were the one citing debating skills as an issue...is it my turn?

pearljamfan1212

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

hardly... I thought you were the one citing debating skills as an issue...is it my turn?

I'm sorry, I wasn't aware you are one of the 9/11 truthers. debating with the likes of you is kinda like pissing in the wind, not a good idea. besides, all you are doing is asking rhetorical questions. you turned "cant you see" into a question. doesn't change that fact that you still bring nothing to the table ya know?

pearljamfan1212

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

re living dead people...
http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/hijackers.html

These guys are seeing their picture on TV and wondering what is going on.

so am I

well that didn't take long for this site to show up. ever wonder why this is the only sources of such non sense documented anywhere in the world?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

pearljamfan1212 wrote:

well that didn't take long for this site to show up. ever wonder why this is the only sources of such non sense documented anywhere in the world?

Yes I do wonder why the mainstream media chooses certain angles to report. I also wonder why the 9/11 commission put out such expedient evidence without fully investigating things like this, and why the airline put options have yet to be traced, and also what has become the text message warnings: http://www.dailynewscaster.com/2008/11/13/two-israelis-world-trade-center-employees-receive-text-message-warning-of-911-attacks/