maybe you should read up on it ... ever ask yourself why the US took out Mossadegh in Iran?
the UK did that one. The United States was led to believe by the British that Mossadegh was increasingly turning towards communism and was moving Iran towards the Soviet sphere at a time of high Cold War fears
in 1973 General Carlos Prats was made Minister of Defense but this decision proved so unpopular with the military that, on August 22, he was forced to resign. in September 1973, the Chilean military staged a coup against Allende.
the UK did that one. The United States was led to believe by the British that Mossadegh was increasingly turning towards communism and was moving Iran towards the Soviet sphere at a time of high Cold War fears
He died in an airplane crash later in 1981 (no it was not shot down by the US)
hmmmm a maxists leader. here's a winner.
in 1973 General Carlos Prats was made Minister of Defense but this decision proved so unpopular with the military that, on August 22, he was forced to resign. in September 1973, the Chilean military staged a coup against Allende.
US did this how exactly?
General Torrijos died with several others when his aircraft exploded during its flight.
on a side note, Torrijos was extremely intolerant of political opposition. Many opponents were imprisoned, exiled, killed, or "disappeared".
what a nice guy.
anything else?
its fun making shit up in yoru own head to fit your agenda eh?
really dude - you keep accusing me of making stuff up - but when i call you on it - you never back it up ... sad ...
anyways the US knew mossadegh was not a communist - he even specifically went to the liberty bell after he gave a speech in the UN to proclaim his admiration for the US ...
roldos, torrijos and allende were all cia coups ... this is widely known ... what they all had in common was that they all wanted to use their resources for their own people ... all replaced by right wing dictators except for torrijos - who was replace by noriega and when noriega refused to comply to us pressure - the US invaded panama and killed thousands of innocent civilians ... these are the reasons why the US is hated everywhere ...
really dude - you keep accusing me of making stuff up - but when i call you on it - you never back it up ... sad ...
anyways the US knew mossadegh was not a communist - he even specifically went to the liberty bell after he gave a speech in the UN to proclaim his admiration for the US ...
roldos, torrijos and allende were all cia coups ... this is widely known ... what they all had in common was that they all wanted to use their resources for their own people ... all replaced by right wing dictators except for torrijos - who was replace by noriega and when noriega refused to comply to us pressure - the US invaded panama and killed thousands of innocent civilians ... these are the reasons why the US is hated everywhere ...
US intervention in Chilean politics and support to Allende's opposition has been recognized, especially with the declassification in 1998 of documents concerning the Project FUBELT operations, although its exact nature is still controversial. General Augusto Pinochet took over and established an anti-communist military dictatorship which lasted until 1990.
you don't have to believe wikipedia - but it's fairly obvious its not some theory made up on the spot ...
... you and I both agree that basic individual freedom is the right thing to do. just because you are accepting the fact they are choose not to allow it, doesnt make it ok. they are brainwashed to think like that.
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I'm not saying it's okay or not. It is relative. I am not accepting that it is right... I'm simply stating that that's the way it is.
Just like religion or history... it all depends on where you stand. Example; I'm pretty sure history books in Saudi Arabia tell a completely different story regarding the crusades than the history books in Western classrooms. Both may describe actual events in the factual light, but the end message comes out differently.
So, I don't know if they are being 'brainwashed'. If that were the case, we are being brainwashed into thinking our way is the best way.
If we really wanted to solve this... I think we should SHOW them that we are NOT decadent monsters who are puppets to Israel. We can start by telling Israel they are being assholes when they are being assholes and quit making up excuses for their actions. We can still support Israel when they are right... we need to quit sucking their asses when they are wrong.
We should also help the people of the Middle East by giving them what they want... not what their Monarchs and dictators want. Help them build mosques and schools instead of more Westernized businesses.
Maybe if they saw that we are descent people who care... they would question that whole 'Great Satan/Death To America' bullshit they are being fed. I'd rather see my foriegn aid tax dollars spent on building materials for a mosques than going into the already rich coffers of the House of Saud.
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the UK did that one. The United States was led to believe by the British that Mossadegh was increasingly turning towards communism and was moving Iran towards the Soviet sphere at a time of high Cold War fears
He died in an airplane crash later in 1981 (no it was not shot down by the US)
hmmmm a maxists leader. here's a winner.
in 1973 General Carlos Prats was made Minister of Defense but this decision proved so unpopular with the military that, on August 22, he was forced to resign. in September 1973, the Chilean military staged a coup against Allende.
US did this how exactly?
General Torrijos died with several others when his aircraft exploded during its flight.
on a side note, Torrijos was extremely intolerant of political opposition. Many opponents were imprisoned, exiled, killed, or "disappeared".
what a nice guy.
anything else?
its fun making shit up in yoru own head to fit your agenda eh?
really dude - you keep accusing me of making stuff up - but when i call you on it - you never back it up ... sad ...
anyways the US knew mossadegh was not a communist - he even specifically went to the liberty bell after he gave a speech in the UN to proclaim his admiration for the US ...
roldos, torrijos and allende were all cia coups ... this is widely known ... what they all had in common was that they all wanted to use their resources for their own people ... all replaced by right wing dictators except for torrijos - who was replace by noriega and when noriega refused to comply to us pressure - the US invaded panama and killed thousands of innocent civilians ... these are the reasons why the US is hated everywhere ...
I never back it up????
this is your backup.....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mossadegh
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Torrijos - read the part on his death, roldos is in there too ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Chilean_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat
US intervention in Chilean politics and support to Allende's opposition has been recognized, especially with the declassification in 1998 of documents concerning the Project FUBELT operations, although its exact nature is still controversial. General Augusto Pinochet took over and established an anti-communist military dictatorship which lasted until 1990.
you don't have to believe wikipedia - but it's fairly obvious its not some theory made up on the spot ...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=AtgoxuVPcwY
I'm not saying it's okay or not. It is relative. I am not accepting that it is right... I'm simply stating that that's the way it is.
Just like religion or history... it all depends on where you stand. Example; I'm pretty sure history books in Saudi Arabia tell a completely different story regarding the crusades than the history books in Western classrooms. Both may describe actual events in the factual light, but the end message comes out differently.
So, I don't know if they are being 'brainwashed'. If that were the case, we are being brainwashed into thinking our way is the best way.
If we really wanted to solve this... I think we should SHOW them that we are NOT decadent monsters who are puppets to Israel. We can start by telling Israel they are being assholes when they are being assholes and quit making up excuses for their actions. We can still support Israel when they are right... we need to quit sucking their asses when they are wrong.
We should also help the people of the Middle East by giving them what they want... not what their Monarchs and dictators want. Help them build mosques and schools instead of more Westernized businesses.
Maybe if they saw that we are descent people who care... they would question that whole 'Great Satan/Death To America' bullshit they are being fed. I'd rather see my foriegn aid tax dollars spent on building materials for a mosques than going into the already rich coffers of the House of Saud.
Hail, Hail!!!
and this is happening all over the world ... only when people realize who really is driving decisions - can we move past it ...
From 1987...nice find...
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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