Obama explains why he keeps voting to fund the war

RolandTD20Kdrummer
RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
edited March 2008 in A Moving Train
remarkably accurate

http://www.weebls-stuff.com/flash/ahhhhhhh.swf
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.

http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Why did I fall for that? I was so eager to see what he said! Then I click on the link and it blasts this loud-ass music mixed with what sounds like 2 old people fucking.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Hint..Obama is on the left...his supporters are represented by the other guy...

    :D

    2 old ppl f-ing ROFL....
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • gabers
    gabers Posts: 2,787
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    Why did I fall for that? I was so eager to see what he said! Then I click on the link and it blasts this loud-ass music mixed with what sounds like 2 old people fucking.

    LOL!!

    Nice to see some light humor in the train every once in a while. Every time I've tried to make jokes they've gone over light a fart in church.
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    i'll give ya a hint why, look at my sig ;)
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • chikevin
    chikevin Posts: 421
    gabers wrote:
    Every time I've tried to make jokes they've gone over light a fart in church.
    that's b/c you need to 'one cheek sneak 'em', now that's just damn funny.

    by the by...i didn't watch the link. so, whatever...
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    he said this quite plainly... and i agree to a great extent


    we have to leave as carefully as we recklessly got out... and that he would not cut off funds while 150,000 soldiers are in harms way and force a choatic and sloppy withdraw... and he has voted every time to include a timetable for withdraw...

    the withdraw needs to be planned, not forced... there is a right way and a wrong way to do this... he prefers to do it the right way


    face it folks, you cannot end the war until Bush or McCain are out of there... the president has veto power my friends, and he has used it, and they dont have 65 votes to beat it
  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    To me it seems very responsible to disagree with the war, seek to end it, while at the same time not leaving the kids that are there dying hanging out to dry with no funds or supplies. Do any of you think that if funds were cut off Bush would have ended the war and brought these kids home? Cutting funds would only be a vote to kill our kids even faster. Try using your brain.
    "When all your friends and sedatives mean well but make it worse... better find yourself a place to level out."
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    cornnifer wrote:
    To me it seems very responsible to disagree with the war, seek to end it, while at the same time not leaving the kids that are there dying hanging out to dry with no funds or supplies. Do any of you think that if funds were cut off Bush would have ended the war and brought these kids home? Cutting funds would only be a vote to kill our kids even faster. Try using your brain.

    I forgot that more is the new less. Onwards to FINAL PERMANENT VICTORY in Iraq! WOO!

    Then the US can get out (haha?) and watch them all go about having their civil war as everything slides down the shitter far worse than before...

    Just keep throwing money at it!!!

    *cough* wealth transfer...

    brain what's that?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    my2hands wrote:
    he said this quite plainly... and i agree to a great extent


    we have to leave as carefully as we recklessly got out... and that he would not cut off funds while 150,000 soldiers are in harms way and force a choatic and sloppy withdraw... and he has voted every time to include a timetable for withdraw...

    the withdraw needs to be planned, not forced... there is a right way and a wrong way to do this... he prefers to do it the right way


    face it folks, you cannot end the war until Bush or McCain are out of there... the president has veto power my friends, and he has used it, and they dont have 65 votes to beat it


    'Bring em home' now fades out to whatever Obama is saying at the moment which is nothing more than stalling while he continues his well rehearsed double speak routine to the crowds of fanatics. What would be the problem with pushing this Admin to end the war now and finally start a withdrawl? No, the better idea is to keep pouring more and more money into the war while saying how dumb it is and how you're soo against it. What a fucking crock of shit!

    Free passes all over this place :rolleyes:
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Im still here
    Im still here Posts: 826
    Obama feeds the War machine because

    Obama = CFR
    PEARL JAM~Lubbock, TX. 10~18~00
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    INCUBUS~Denver, CO. 2~8~07
    Lollapalooza~Chicago, IL. 8~5~07
    INCUBUS~Austin, TX. 9~3~07
    Bonnaroo~Manchester, TN 6~14~08
  • JD Sal
    JD Sal Posts: 790
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:
    'Bring em home' now fades out to whatever Obama is saying at the moment which is nothing more than stalling while he continues his well rehearsed double speak routine to the crowds of fanatics. What would be the problem with pushing this Admin to end the war now and finally start a withdrawl? No, the better idea is to keep pouring more and more money into the war while saying how dumb it is and how you're soo against it. What a fucking crock of shit!

    Free passes all over this place :rolleyes:

    *sigh* We tackled this in another thread, but here goes:

    The democrats tried passing legislation multiple times that had a timetable for withdraw, and every time there was a fillibuster and a veto. So, when the funds run out for the war, and you can't get anything passed with a timetable, what do you do? You vote to not fund the war? If Obama did this, sadly, I think most of yall would still be posting here crucifying him, but for leaving the soldiers on the battlefield in the middle of a war with nothing.

    You can't just cut funds like that without a detailed strategy for how to get the fuck out. It's going to take at least a year to get all of our troops and equipment out of Iraq, and that would be with continued funding and a comprehensive plan for withdraw. What do you think would happen if Congress just abruptly cut funds without a plan? It's just not that easy. Please, give this some serious thought.

    Instead, you fund the war for a brief time and try to tweak the legislation to garner enough votes to override a veto, which ain't gonna happen with the republicans. Blame them, not Obama.

    I'm open to hearing Obama criticism, but this is just plain silly to keep condemning him for funding the war when all other measures failed, without considering the complexities of the entire situation.
    "If no one sees you, you're not here at all"
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    JD Sal wrote:
    *sigh* We tackled this in another thread, but here goes:

    The democrats tried passing legislation multiple times that had a timetable for withdraw, and every time there was a fillibuster and a veto. So, when the funds run out for the war, and you can't get anything passed with a timetable, what do you do? You vote to not fund the war? If Obama did this, sadly, I think most of yall would still be posting here crucifying him, but for leaving the soldiers on the battlefield in the middle of a war with nothing.

    You can't just cut funds like that without a detailed strategy for how to get the fuck out. It's going to take at least a year to get all of our troops and equipment out of Iraq, and that would be with continued funding and a comprehensive plan for withdraw. What do you think would happen if Congress just abruptly cut funds without a plan? It's just not that easy. Please, give this some serious thought.

    Instead, you fund the war for a brief time and try to tweak the legislation to garner enough votes to override a veto, which ain't gonna happen with the republicans. Blame them, not Obama.

    I'm open to hearing Obama criticism, but this is just plain silly to keep condemning him for funding the war when all other measures failed, without considering the complexities of the entire situation.


    If you're all content and wanna tell me you think the Democratic party and it's outspoken leaders especially, have did everything they could to end this war and bring the troops home as soon as possible...then I guess we can do nothing but disagree. We got in there quick enough, our presence isn't helping matters and more of our young people and Iraqi civilians are dying everyday....we can get back out as soon as our pathetic representatives in congress pushed for it to end. A decision could be made as quick as tomorrow to pull out and then the process can begin but that's not what the Democratic party is focused on. They are focused on gaining power while ignoring the demands of the people and the all dying people on the other side of the globe. Take your time guys...it's not you or your family's ass on the line.

    Here's a little cute cartoon for ya :)
    http://www.truthdig.com/images/eartothegrounduploads/Fish_HalfWay3.jpg
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Kinda makes me wonder why Ron Paul gets the most support from the troops, and he had never once voted to fund the war...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • JD Sal
    JD Sal Posts: 790
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Kinda makes me wonder why Ron Paul gets the most support from the troops, and he had never once voted to fund the war...

    Actually, Ron Paul and Obama have received the majority of support from the troops.
    "If no one sees you, you're not here at all"
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    JD Sal wrote:
    *sigh* We tackled this in another thread, but here goes:

    The democrats tried passing legislation multiple times that had a timetable for withdraw, and every time there was a fillibuster and a veto. So, when the funds run out for the war, and you can't get anything passed with a timetable, what do you do? You vote to not fund the war? If Obama did this, sadly, I think most of yall would still be posting here crucifying him, but for leaving the soldiers on the battlefield in the middle of a war with nothing.

    You can't just cut funds like that without a detailed strategy for how to get the fuck out. It's going to take at least a year to get all of our troops and equipment out of Iraq, and that would be with continued funding and a comprehensive plan for withdraw. What do you think would happen if Congress just abruptly cut funds without a plan? It's just not that easy. Please, give this some serious thought.

    Instead, you fund the war for a brief time and try to tweak the legislation to garner enough votes to override a veto, which ain't gonna happen with the republicans. Blame them, not Obama.

    I'm open to hearing Obama criticism, but this is just plain silly to keep condemning him for funding the war when all other measures failed, without considering the complexities of the entire situation.


    there's my boy!

    see you at MSG...
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Abookamongstthemany wrote:

    Free passes all over this place :rolleyes:

    i prefer to call it the unfortunate reality
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    Yay! The Democrats have been doing a bang up job! Hats off to those guys, really!
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    my2hands wrote:
    i prefer to call it the unfortunate reality

    We make our own reality...don't let other call the shots for you. You have to stand up for what you believe in or adopt what they believe in.
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    http://www.counterpunch.org/walsh03262007.html

    Go Dennis!

    http://www.pdamerica.org/articles/news/2006-11-09-19-20-05-news.php
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde
  • Abookamongstthemany
    Abookamongstthemany Posts: 8,209
    http://codepinkalert.blogspot.com/2007/03/peace-movement-disappointed-with.html

    http://www.divinecaroline.com/article/22353/28003-peace-movement-disappointed-democrats--funding

    http://bobgeiger.blogspot.com/2007/04/democrats-will-move-to-cut-funding-if.html

    http://www.democrats.com/peoplesemailnetwork/90
    If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.

    Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
    -Oscar Wilde

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