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RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
edited August 2008 in A Moving Train
According to Barak Obama?

anyone?

I'd like to get some clarification on this one...
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    According to Barak Obama?

    anyone?

    I'd like to get some clarification on this one...

    It's not just Obama who says this. Pretty much every "leading" politician and TV water carrier says this as well. I've never seen anything that points to nuclear reactors in themselves as illegal. Now if it could be proven that they were making weapons from them then perhaps the illegality could be argued from the nuclear nonproliferation treaty they signed. But proving something seems to be an annoying thing to this nation lately.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    flywallyfly wrote:
    It's not just Obama who says this. Pretty much every "leading" politician and TV water carrier says this as well. I've never seen anything that points to nuclear reactors in themselves as illegal. Now if it could be proven that they were making weapons from them then perhaps the illegality could be argued from the nuclear nonproliferation treaty they signed. But proving something seems to be an annoying thing to this nation lately.


    I thought Barak was supposedly different from "every leading politician" so to speak, and this was the main attraction from his avid supporters Vote for a change in policy they say...

    I'm just not seeing it.

    It's one step forward...one step back.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    flywallyfly wrote:
    It's not just Obama who says this. Pretty much every "leading" politician and TV water carrier says this as well. I've never seen anything that points to nuclear reactors in themselves as illegal. Now if it could be proven that they were making weapons from them then perhaps the illegality could be argued from the nuclear nonproliferation treaty they signed. But proving something seems to be an annoying thing to this nation lately.
    oh, of course. It's fine for Obama to be full of shit, as long as the other "leading" politicians are full of shit.

    Now I see the funny side.
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    _outlaw wrote:
    oh, of course. It's fine for Obama to be full of shit, as long as the other "leading" politicians are full of shit.

    Now I see the funny side.

    You sure like to read into things that are not there. You must really hate Obama and his supporters. I almost feel bad for you.
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I thought Barak was supposedly different from "every leading politician" so to speak, and this was the main attraction from his avid supporters Vote for a change in policy they say...

    I'm just not seeing it.

    It's one step forward...one step back.

    I was actually agreeing with you, just elaborating that it isnt confined to just him. This place is really starting to suck ass.
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    flywallyfly wrote:
    You sure like to read into things that are not there.
    I'm not claiming you said that. I'm responding to what you said with my own response. However, it certainly does seem that most Obama supporters defend his stance on Iran, and even justify it... how do you feel about his stance on Iran?
    You must really hate Obama and his supporters. I almost feel bad for you.
    You sure like to read into things that are not there.

    ;)
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    _outlaw wrote:
    I'm not claiming you said that.

    really? I guess quoting "leading" like i did was just a coincidence.
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    flywallyfly wrote:
    really? I guess quoting "leading" like i did was just a coincidence.
    way to ignore the rest of my response. It was clearly a remark, that was just sarcastically continuing what I thought you would be saying.

    Now, I'll ask again... what do you think about Obama's stance on Iran?
  • DriftingByTheStormDriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    I'm not talking about what you're talking about.
    I'm saying that what you're saying isn't what you were saying first, and what i'm saying isn't what i was saying first, it's what i was saying about what you were saying when i thought what you were saying was not what i was saying.

    but now that i understand what you are saying, i still don't necessarily agree with you, but i do get what you were trying to say.

    See what i'm saying?

    :D:D:D
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  • Rhinocerous SurpriseRhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    I'm not talking about what you're talking about.
    I'm saying that what you're saying isn't what you were saying first, and what i'm saying isn't what i was saying first, it's what i was saying about what you were saying when i thought what you were saying was not what i was saying.

    but now that i understand what you are saying, i still don't necessarily agree with you, but i do get what you were trying to say.

    See what i'm saying?

    :D:D:D
    I'm pretty certain this post punched a hole through time. :p
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  • MrBrianMrBrian Posts: 2,672
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    According to Barak Obama?

    anyone?

    I'd like to get some clarification on this one...

    Yeah we all know it's not ilegal for them. They signed the NPT..unlike say Israel. ;)
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    DriftingByTheStorm wrote:
    I'm not talking about what you're talking about.
    I'm saying that what you're saying isn't what you were saying first, and what i'm saying isn't what i was saying first, it's what i was saying about what you were saying when i thought what you were saying was not what i was saying.

    but now that i understand what you are saying, i still don't necessarily agree with you, but i do get what you were trying to say.

    See what i'm saying?

    :D:D:D

    Oh...THAT Iran....

    I though you meant the OTHER Iran...

    simple misunderstanding...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    _outlaw wrote:
    Now, I'll ask again... what do you think about Obama's stance on Iran?

    What are you asking? Be clear for God's sake.
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    flywallyfly wrote:
    What are you asking? Be clear for God's sake.
    be clear?

    what is your opinion on his stance? do you agree with it or not? why or why not?
    do I have to spell it out for you, that question was pretty straightforward.
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    flywallyfly wrote:
    I was actually agreeing with you, just elaborating that it isnt confined to just him. This place is really starting to suck ass.

    What does it have to do with here? It's a pretty universal question no?

    Can I not comment on things that don't add up?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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    ( o.O)
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  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    _outlaw wrote:
    be clear?

    what is your opinion on his stance? do you agree with it or not? why or why not?
    do I have to spell it out for you, that question was pretty straightforward.

    I like the way he stands in general though he sometimes leans too much on the podium during lengthy speeches. I'm not sure if I can really disagree with his stance as long as he finds it comfortable. I'm more of a lean on one leg for awhile then switch to keep one leg fresh, but that's debateable as well.
  • flywallyflyflywallyfly Posts: 1,453
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    What does it have to do with here? It's a pretty universal question no?

    Can I not comment on things that don't add up?

    Sure you can.
  • Rhinocerous SurpriseRhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    flywallyfly wrote:
    I like the way he stands in general though he sometimes leans too much on the podium during lengthy speeches. I'm not sure if I can really disagree with his stance as long as he finds it comfortable. I'm more of a lean on one leg for awhile then switch to keep one leg fresh, but that's debateable as well.
    Haha, wow... you're not even trying to hide the fact that you don't wanna answer the question.
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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    flywallyfly wrote:
    I like the way he stands in general though he sometimes leans too much on the podium during lengthy speeches. I'm not sure if I can really disagree with his stance as long as he finds it comfortable. I'm more of a lean on one leg for awhile then switch to keep one leg fresh, but that's debateable as well.
    thanks for proving my point.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    If this administration was fair with their labeling and catagorizing of "Terrorist" states, they would of course list themselves......the government of the United States Of America; as a ......... Terrorist State.


    For it is the government of the United States that has done and continues to do those things that they accuse Iran of doing. You know, those things that by their own terms of definition.........define Iran as a Terrorist State.
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    According to Barak Obama?

    anyone?

    I'd like to get some clarification on this one...

    where did he say this...? just curious...Honestly, I don't have everything he says memorized...

    anyway, when I see him, I'll ask for you...
  • Strangest TribeStrangest Tribe Posts: 2,502
    ah...I don't get it either....who knows????

    part of me still HOPES that B.O is playing the middle ground and not trying to be too unelectable.
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  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    Strangest Tribe wrote:
    ah...I don't get it either....who knows????

    part of me still HOPES that B.O is playing the middle ground and not trying to be too unelectable.
    are you voting for him? what happens when you vote for him and it turns out that he wasn't just playing middle ground and sticks to his word?
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    _outlaw wrote:
    are you voting for him? what happens when you vote for him and it turns out that he wasn't just playing middle ground and sticks to his word?

    that's a chance we all take when we choose to vote...
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    inmytree wrote:
    that's a chance we all take when we choose to vote...
    so you're choosing to take a chance that he might be saying all this just to get elected??

    you'd rather believe in some hope you're pulling out of nowhere, than go by facts from his history of voting and speeches?? seriously?

    and you're willing to risk handing over the presidency to some guy based on this "chance?"

    wow.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    According to Barak Obama?

    anyone?

    I'd like to get some clarification on this one...

    let me ask you 2 questions... 2 honest questions... and please answer in your own words and dont quote anyone else or provide links... because i know about the report from about 4 years ago that said they shut down their weapons program... and please dont answer "well israel has nukes and we have nukes so whats the porblem"

    1. Do you believe that Iran truly has no interest in Nuclear weapon capablilties, and are being totally honest about their intentions that they are only in pursuit of nuclear energy and not weapons

    2. What do you think about a nuclear armed Iran? good thing, bad thing, or indifferent?
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    _outlaw wrote:
    so you're choosing to take a chance that he might be saying all this just to get elected??

    you'd rather believe in some hope you're pulling out of nowhere, than go by facts from his history of voting and speeches?? seriously?

    and you're willing to risk handing over the presidency to some guy based on this "chance?"

    wow.

    do you have some sort of crystal ball or something...? tea leaves and spit, perhaps...? are you some sort of soothsayer...?

    maybe, just maybe, I'm ok with what he's saying, doing, or has done...

    how about that one...?

    all I know is, the other choices out there suck, in my humble opinion...

    Let's see: bush III, no thanks...

    Or some guy who's run 5 times, who's only platform is Corporations Suck...

    Yeah, I'm going to take my chances on someone who can draw a crowd of 200K in another country...

    Sorry...
  • RolandTD20KdrummerRolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    my2hands wrote:
    let me ask you 2 questions... 2 honest questions... and please answer in your own words and dont quote anyone else or provide links... because i know about the report from about 4 years ago that said they shut down their weapons program... and please dont answer "well israel has nukes and we have nukes so whats the porblem"

    1. Do you believe that Iran truly has no interest in Nuclear weapon capablilties, and are being totally honest about their intentions that they are only in pursuit of nuclear energy and not weapons

    2. What do you think about a nuclear armed Iran? good thing, bad thing, or indifferent?

    The bottom line is do you think Iran is evil and wants to destroy the world like the pack of savage terrorist dogs they are made out to be, or do you think they are human beings like everyone else and can perhaps co-exist peacefully?

    So, do you believe the hype?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    The bottom line is do you think Iran is evil and wants to destroy the world like the pack of savage terrorist dogs they are made out to be, or do you think they are human beings like everyone else and can perhaps co-exist peacefully?

    So, do you believe the hype?

    interesting answer...

    you didn't answer the questions, but interesting...
  • fuckfuck Posts: 4,069
    inmytree wrote:
    do you have some sort of crystal ball or something...? tea leaves and spit, perhaps...? are you some sort of soothsayer...?

    maybe, just maybe, I'm ok with what he's saying, doing, or has done...
    that's fine. that's an entire other debate though. maybe you can answer my question then? how do you feel about obama's stance on Iran? do you agree/disagree? why/why not?
    all I know is, the other choices out there suck, in my humble opinion...

    Let's see: bush III, no thanks...

    Or some guy who's run 5 times, who's only platform is Corporations Suck...
    hmm... maybe if you took 10 minutes of your time to hear what Nader has to say, and I mean SERIOUSLY hear what he has to say, you'd be a bit more enlightened as to what his platform really is...
    Yeah, I'm going to take my chances on someone who can draw a crowd of 200K in another country...

    Sorry...
    no need to apologize. you're only one of many people willing to hand over the key to the white house to a guy preaching bullshit. :)
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