Do animals go to heaven?

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  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Which part of the mind goes to heaven?

    The part that says "Chocolate cake!" "Sex!" and so on, or the part that says "You will get fat!" or is it the part that says "Pick your nose" and "Scratch your head"? or maybe it's that part that says "Something is poking you in the foot!"

    That's what I'd like to know. Anyone can tell that consciousness and experience are segmented in the qualia. Anyone who's ever had a bout of cognitive dissonance, or had the urge to do something while simultaneously had the urge to do something completely different.

    if you no longer eat; why would you think of chocolate cake? if you no longer have a body; why think of sex? if you don't have a foot; how can something be poking it?

    there are things you don't know and i'm not here to educate you. you will know when you've arrived.
  • CJMST3K
    CJMST3K Posts: 9,722
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    I think you want the Ape/Man thing to go to Heaven... because, come on... who's going to fuck with GorillaMan?

    ...I think we've forgotten something.

    Do Sasquach go to heaven? Big feet = Big hearts
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    onelongsong wrote:
    if you no longer eat; why would you think of chocolate cake? if you no longer have a body; why think of sex? if you don't have a foot; how can something be poking it?

    there are things you don't know and i'm not here to educate you. you will know when you've arrived.

    Then there is absolutely no purpose for the mind at all.

    I think you've just proven that there is no heaven.
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  • CJMST3K
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    onelongsong wrote:
    you will know when you've arrived.

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    According to this research, the Bible is silent regarding an afterlife for animals.

    http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/pets.shtml

    No animals in heaven? I think I would be miserable without the presence of animals.
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  • CJMST3K
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    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    According to this research, the Bible is silent regarding an afterlife for animals.

    http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/pets.shtml

    No animals in heaven? I think I would be miserable without the presence of animals.


    Matthew chapter 7, verses 13 and 14 (Mat 7:13,14) for one example. Therefore, it is critical that we remind everyone that they need to get right with God themselves or their chances of seeing a departed pet again are zero.


    LOL!!

    Be a good god-fearing man, or you'll never see fluffy again! Mwaa hahaha!!
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    Here's another take: Animals must have a soul. God doesn't create something only to throw it away.


    edit also:
    "According to the Bible, there will be no animals in heaven except for horses. And those horses, the book of Revelation tells us, will be used solely as a means of transportation. Scripture tells us that horses will sprout wings and be able to fly at high speeds. "

    omg this has to be a joke:
    http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0106/petsinheaven.html
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    Yea animals have a soul
    every form of life has a soul.

    All life is equal.

    Can water the animals, plants, insects,
    and I drink have a soul for a would
    be heaven or hell?

    What is heaven or hell?
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  • CJMST3K
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    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Here's another take

    Animals must have a soul. God doesn't create something only to throw it away.

    What about sharks? Humans cut off their dorcal fin just to throw the shark into the water to bleed to death, or be killed, or just die on its own.

    We throw them away. And if humans were made in "god's image"...
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  • Ahnimus
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    Don't fear the reaper
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    According to this research, the Bible is silent regarding an afterlife for animals.

    http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/pets.shtml

    No animals in heaven? I think I would be miserable without the presence of animals.
    ...
    Maybe in pet Heaven... they're the ones that feed us.
    ...
    And if there are no animals in Heaven... where does the Prime Rib come from? How can it be Heaven if there ain't a nice Prime Rib dinner up there?
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    Christian 1: "I'm going to die, the doctor gave me 3 weeks to live."

    Christian 2: "Good news! Say hi to grandpa for me! :)"

    Why is it that when I go to a funeral, the Christian folks ball their eyes out weeping "Why? Why does it have to be this way?" and the one atheist (me) smiles in delight that so many arrived to honour the life of a loved one, and I take joy in knowing that they led a good and fruitful life.

    I think Christians would want to expedite their trip to paradise, not fear it.
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  • CJMST3K
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    Cosmo wrote:
    How can it be Heaven if there ain't a nice Prime Rib dinner up there?

    Your heaven would be my hell.

    I'm a strict vegetarian.


    Wait a minute. If you're in heaven - where are you gonna get the prime rib from? Gonna slaughter a heaven-animal? Where does IT go?
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  • Cosmo
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    CJMST3K wrote:
    ...I think we've forgotten something.

    Do Sasquach go to heaven? Big feet = Big hearts
    ...
    And here's something else... what about people born with so-called 'defects', such as no arms or something. Are they in Heaven with arms and stuff.. or the same so the people that gave them Hell down here can give them Hell up there?
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    CJMST3K wrote:
    Your heaven would be my hell.

    I'm a strict vegetarian.


    Wait a minute. If you're in heaven - where are you gonna get the prime rib from? Gonna slaughter a heaven-animal? Where does IT go?
    ...
    That's what i'm wondering. I mean, do you have to make a trip to Hell to get a descent steak dinner or what?
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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
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    Ok I think I found the "answer". Basically, heaven is what you want it to be. If you want your pets there..they will be there.

    http://www.emmitsburg.net/tumc/pastor_wade/2005/pets.htm
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  • CJMST3K
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    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    And here's something else... what about people born with so-called 'defects', such as no arms or something. Are they in Heaven with arms and stuff.. or the same so the people that gave them Hell down here can give them Hell up there?

    Yup - that's a similar question...
    CJMST3K wrote:
    If you're born with a severe mental handicap and die at the age of 3, do you go to heaven? If yes, are you still handicapped? And are you still 3? And do you still age? If you do age, can you die?

    I mean - OBVIOUSLY god made you that way. So I assume you would stay that way, since god made you that way.
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  • CJMST3K
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    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Ok I think I found the "answer". Basically, heaven is what you want it to be. If you want your pets there..they will be there.

    http://www.emmitsburg.net/tumc/pastor_wade/2005/pets.htm


    What if I want the devil to be there with me, and for him to duke it out with god to the "death"? ...and pets too?

    So I get my wish?



    ...also, what if I want to be with a deceased wife, but an old girlfriend wants to be with me? Who's version of heaven prevails?
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    CJMST3K wrote:
    What about sharks? Humans cut off their dorcal fin just to throw the shark into the water to bleed to death, or be killed, or just die on its own.

    We throw them away. And if humans were made in "god's image"...

    Because some human-beings are the stupidest life forms on the planet.
    As well as the evilest, most wasteful, disrespectful, creatures ever.
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    First you have to go to pergatory, because God isn't sure yet what to do with you. But hey, you can by time credits from the Catholic church.
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