Obama: I pledge allegiance to Israel

RolandTD20Kdrummer
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edited May 2008 in A Moving Train
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AaL1Se38gg

http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=54913&sectionid=3510203

"Democratic White House contender Barack Obama says the US would be fully committed to Israel's security if he is elected president.

"America's commitment to Israel's security is unshakable," the 46-year-old presidential hopeful said Thursday during a brief speech at a celebration to mark the 60th anniversary of Israel.

"I am absolutely convinced that our friendship between the two nations is unbreakable, the Illinois senator added.
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and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • MLC2006
    MLC2006 Posts: 861
    that's such a terrible thing for him to say. we all know that Jews shouldn't be safe anywhere on earth.
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    MLC2006 wrote:
    that's such a terrible thing for him to say. we all know that Jews shouldn't be safe anywhere on earth.

    I have no problem with America being dedicated to the Israeli people. But their "unbreakable" friendship with the Israeli government isn't America being big brother to a little underdog country. It's supporting a country that's illegally occupying another country. Birds of a feather, eh?
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  • DriftingByTheStorm
    DriftingByTheStorm Posts: 8,684
    MLC2006 wrote:
    that's such a terrible thing for him to say. we all know that Jews shouldn't be safe anywhere on earth.

    Yeah.
    Its hard to feel safe when you are sitting on one of the largest nuclear weapon caches in the world.
    :rolleyes:

    surely they need every bit of military assistance we can provide.
    :rolleyes:
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  • MLC2006
    MLC2006 Posts: 861
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    I have no problem with America being dedicated to the Israeli people. But their "unbreakable" friendship with the Israeli government isn't America being big brother to a little underdog country. It's supporting a country that's illegally occupying another country. Birds of a feather, eh?


    please explain how the Israelis are "illegally occupying another country"?
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    MLC2006 wrote:
    please explain how the Israelis are "illegally occupying another country"?


    illegally occupying land that is NOT there's....how's that?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    MLC2006 wrote:
    please explain how the Israelis are "illegally occupying another country"?

    Okay, I should have said "part of another country". But there are enough other threads on that topic that have been locked. My point is, pledging "unbreakable" friendship to a government that's knowingly ignoring UN laws isn't the best way for America to do its business.
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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    Okay, I should have said "part of another country". But there are enough other threads on that topic that have been locked. My point is, pledging "unbreakable" friendship to a government that's knowingly ignoring UN laws isn't the best way for America to do its business.


    AND who has a secret nuke program, which under US law makes it illegal for us to supply them w/ any aid....but since when does our government follow it's laws? look at reagan and daddy bush (which obama says he will have a foreign policy like them)
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    El_Kabong wrote:
    AND who has a secret nuke program, which under US law makes it illegal for us to supply them w/ any aid....but since when does our government follow it's laws? look at reagan and daddy bush (which obama says he will have a foreign policy like them)

    I guess the US can't expect Israel to follow all these "international laws" when they make as much of a habit of breaking them.
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  • MLC2006
    MLC2006 Posts: 861
    El_Kabong wrote:
    illegally occupying land that is NOT there's....how's that?

    I'm not following. I'm assuming that by saying "illegally occupying land", you mean they have no right to be where they are? is that what you're saying?
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    MLC2006 wrote:
    I'm not following. I'm assuming that by saying "illegally occupying land", you mean they have no right to be where they are? is that what you're saying?


    i'm saying they have no right to be living on illegal settlements in the occupied territories which even the UN has told them they must leave and yet.....
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    I guess the US can't expect Israel to follow all these "international laws" when they make as much of a habit of breaking them.


    yeah, maybe obama can bring back the glory days of israel selling iran thousands of missiles for us?
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • MLC2006
    MLC2006 Posts: 861
    El_Kabong wrote:
    i'm saying they have no right to be living on illegal settlements in the occupied territories which even the UN has told them they must leave and yet.....

    elaborate please? illegal settlements? set up when? pre-1900? post WWI? post WWII? 1960s? 1990s? when exactly did these "illegal settlements" that you speak of come about?
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    MLC2006 wrote:
    elaborate please? illegal settlements? set up when? pre-1900? post WWI? post WWII? 1960s? 1990s? when exactly did these "illegal settlements" that you speak of come about?

    Gimme a break. You know we're talking about Palestine. Spare me the "Israel are innocently looking for a home" spin. We both know they're illegally occupying Palestinian territories, killing hundreds of innocent civilians in the process.
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  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    MLC2006 wrote:
    elaborate please? illegal settlements? set up when? pre-1900? post WWI? post WWII? 1960s? 1990s? when exactly did these "illegal settlements" that you speak of come about?


    just google: occupied territories and you should find answers easy enough
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • MLC2006
    MLC2006 Posts: 861
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    Gimme a break. You know we're talking about Palestine. Spare me the "Israel are innocently looking for a home" spin. We both know they're illegally occupying Palestinian territories, killing hundreds of innocent civilians in the process.

    gee thanks. I think we all know we're talking about Palestine here, thanks for clearing that up. the part I'm asking about is......."We both know they're illegally occupying Palestinian territories, killing hundreds of innocent civilians in the process". I mean, I've read the history of Israel. I know about the Ottoman Empire's defeat in WWI. the British Mandate over Palestine from the League of Nation's post WWI treaty. I know about the mass immigration's to Palestine. the British pulling out per the League of Nations, Israel's declaration of independence, victory over Arab invaders. I know all that. I just don't know what part you're referring to as being "illegal"?
  • Rhinocerous Surprise
    Rhinocerous Surprise Posts: 4,423
    MLC2006 wrote:
    gee thanks. I think we all know we're talking about Palestine here, thanks for clearing that up. the part I'm asking about is......."We both know they're illegally occupying Palestinian territories, killing hundreds of innocent civilians in the process". I mean, I've read the history of Israel. I know about the Ottoman Empire's defeat in WWI. the British Mandate over Palestine from the League of Nation's post WWI treaty. I know about the mass immigration's to Palestine. the British pulling out per the League of Nations, Israel's declaration of independence, victory over Arab invaders. I know all that. I just don't know what part you're referring to as being "illegal"?

    Ask the UN. They'll make it nice and clear for you.
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  • MLC2006
    MLC2006 Posts: 861
    Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:
    Ask the UN. They'll make it nice and clear for you.

    when you say "UN", are you referring to the "United Nations"? as in, the UN that the arab league thumbed their noses at when they declared war on Israel in 1948? cracking a history book open would make it nice and clear for you.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    MLC2006 wrote:
    when you say "UN", are you referring to the "United Nations"? as in, the UN that the arab league thumbed their noses at when they declared war on Israel in 1948? cracking a history book open would make it nice and clear for you.


    Are you a member of CUFI by any chance?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • MLC2006
    MLC2006 Posts: 861
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    Are you a member of CUFI by any chance?

    are you a member of the PLO or the Nazi party by any chance? I mean, it seems to me you spend most of your time on here reporting on Israeli atrocities that are only posted on anti-Israel websites and can't be found on any legitimate news site.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    MLC2006 wrote:
    are you a member of the PLO or the Nazi party by any chance? I mean, it seems to me you spend most of your time on here reporting on Israeli atrocities that are only posted on anti-Israel websites and can't be found on any legitimate news site.

    I highlighted the problem...

    It's no mystery what is going here...

    btw...my CUFI link was aired on mainstream TV...

    check out the vids...

    nice brainwashed war cult..
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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