Kids getting fingerprinted every day at schools now? wtf?

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  • JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
    paranoia breeds social breakdown
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
  • LikeAnOceanLikeAnOcean Posts: 7,718
    I got fingerprinted in the first grade.. 1986.
  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    Juberoo wrote:
    paranoia breeds social breakdown

    so does apathy.

    Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
    NOPE!!!

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  • JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
    Jeanie wrote:
    so does apathy.

    Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.
    thats right...because you hold the secrets of the universe and are so inequivecally important that the government needs to know your every move and breath...the future of the planet depends upon it.
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    Juberoo wrote:
    thats right...because you hold the secrets of the universe and are so inequivecally important that the government needs to know your every move and breath...the future of the planet depends upon it.

    Well they've already got you clearly! :rolleyes:
    NOPE!!!

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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    there is no way i would ever allow any of my children to be fingerprinted.
    hear my name
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  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    Jeanie wrote:
    so does apathy.

    Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get me.


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  • Juberoo wrote:
    and exactly what is it "they" are doing to us?


    supposedly working for us instead of spying on us, and wasting hundreds of milons on stupid fingerprint equipment.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
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  • Juberoo wrote:
    paranoia breeds social breakdown


    so does naivety...but much faster though.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
    there is no way i would ever allow any of my children to be fingerprinted.
    why? What do you think would come of it? How would it harm them?
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
  • Jeanie wrote:
    Well they've already got you clearly! :rolleyes:


    yeah no shit eh? This one is broken already.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
    supposedly working for us instead of spying on us, and wasting hundreds of milons on stupid fingerprint equipment.
    again....what makes you so special that they have to "spy" on you?
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
  • Juberoo wrote:
    again....what makes you so special that they have to "spy" on you?


    Nothing...that's the point. control. Get it?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
    Nothing...that's the point. control. Get it?
    control of what??!!!
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Juberoo wrote:
    why? What do you think would come of it? How would it harm them?

    because as a parent it's my right and responsibility to look after the well being of my children in every aspect of their lives.
    i don't know what will become of the fingerprints and that is why i object. and how will it do them any good?
    hear my name
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  • JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
    because as a parent it's my right and responsibility to look after the well being of my children in every aspect of their lives.
    i don't know what will become of the fingerprints and that is why i object. and how will it do them any good?
    what exactly do you think could happen to the fingerprints? What could they possibly be used for to threaten your childrens "well being"?

    It will do them good to make school more efficient. It could be used to help them should they become lost or kidnapped.

    Remember how people bucked the need for home computers? The internet was evil too at one time. But yet here we all are...mainstreamed and happy. But there were people out there who had the same exact fears over having a computer in the home. That it would always be "watching". Rather absurd now don't ya think? Lack of understanding breeds fear which in turn breeds ignorance.
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
  • JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
    Nothing...that's the point. control. Get it?
    as opposed to being controlled by your own fear?
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    yeah no shit eh? This one is broken already.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again. Stepford. :) :eek:
    NOPE!!!

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    Hold on to the thread
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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Juberoo wrote:
    what exactly do you think could happen to the fingerprints? What could they possibly be used for to threaten your childrens "well being"?

    It will do them good to make school more efficient. It could be used to help them should they become lost or kidnapped.

    Remember how people bucked the need for home computers? The internet was evil too at one time. But yet here we all are...mainstreamed and happy. But there were people out there who had the same exact fears over having a computer in the home. That it would always be "watching". Rather absurd now don't ya think? Lack of understanding breeds fear which in turn breeds ignorance.

    well i already have my children's fingerprints, so if they get kidnapped or lost or lose their minds and join a cult, i will be able to identify them.

    and exactly how will it make schools more efficient. i'd much prefer the funding go towards making my children MORE educated.

    well i never thought the internet was evil. and i do not know what can and can't be traced through technology. and it's not something i lose sleep over.

    i don't have a lack of understanding on this fingerprint business because there is nothing to understand. i object. it's that simple. and you don't seem to be able to give me a good enough reason to warrant such a scheme.
    and do not make the mistake and think for one minute that you are talking to some naive schoolgirl or uneducated person. so quit the arrogant attitude and give me just cause for fingerprinting chiuldren.
    hear my name
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  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    if your child was kidnapped and that one fingerprint could identify them and be returned to you; would you object? if the neighbour killed your child and a fingerprint taken years earlier could identify the murderer; would you object?
    i'm not sure which bit you're objecting to. you haven't identified the BAD portion of fingrprinting. most banks require a fingerprint to cash government checks. some states require fingerprints on drivers licenses. you can't go through life hiding your fingerprint so if there's good that can come from collecting fingerprints from children; what's the problem?

    My children can have their fingerprints taken by me and a sample of their DNA too if I choose which I will keep and give to the police IF they are ever kidnapped otherwise, it's not necessary for children to be fingerprinted, it's only going to lead to that whole barcode tattoo on the forehead or microchipping like the dog! And it's not like we can trust the government, schools or even banks for that matter to keep our records and information protected and not onsell it to all kinds of places who gather all kinds of information. Everybody has the right to privacy. This would be a breach of that as far as I can see.
    NOPE!!!

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  • JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
    So when airports, hospitals etc. all become fully biometric, will you stop using these services because you don't want you or your children fingerprinted? It's on the horizon. It's developed. It's just a matter of time. Will you move to a cave and live off the land? How will you function in society?
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Juberoo wrote:
    So when airports, hospitals etc. all become fully biometric, will you stop using these services because you don't want you or your children fingerprinted? It's on the horizon. It's developed. It's just a matter of time. Will you move to a cave and live off the land? How will you function in society?

    well for starters my passport is chipped, for the convenience and paranoia of the US. ;)

    i will function in society the same way i do now. by ignoring it and hoping one day you will all just go away. society sucks and i play with it on my terms as much as humanly possible. :D:p

    and why would i need to go to a hospital?
    hear my name
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  • JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
    well for starters my passport is chipped, for the convenience and paranoia of the US. ;)

    i will function in society the same way i do now. by ignoring it and hoping one day you will all just go away. society sucks and i play with it on my terms as much as humanly possible. :D:p
    and what about when it becomes the norm and you have no choice but to comply? For example, banks are beginning to use this to access accounts. What will you do when you cannot use a credit card or check to make a payment? What will you do whenyou cannot withdraw cash out of your account without a fingerprint check? Will you stop using banks?
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
  • JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472

    and why would i need to go to a hospital?
    Well as humans, we do get ill.
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
  • Jeanie wrote:
    I've said it before and I'll say it again. Stepford. :) :eek:


    rofl!!
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    rofl!!

    :D I don't know some things just lend themselves to pop culture don't you think? ;)

    I'm having a really hard time not quoting Clueless endlessly in this thread!! :D

    Anyway, I'm with you Roland, this whole fingerprinting business reeks of NWO!!! :( :mad:
    NOPE!!!

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  • Juberoo wrote:
    control of what??!!!

    Maybe I need to start watching Fox just to understand it again...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • catefrancescatefrances Posts: 29,003
    Juberoo wrote:
    and what about when it becomes the norm and you have no choice but to comply? For example, banks are beginning to use this to access accounts. What will you do when you cannot use a credit card or check to make a payment? What will you do whenyou cannot withdraw cash out of your account without a fingerprint check? Will you stop using banks?

    i dont have a credit card. ive never owned a car and i dont have a mortgage.
    and these days eftpos takes care of all my needs.


    there's always ways around everything. being an american you should know that. your government does it all the time.
    hear my name
    take a good look
    this could be the day
    hold my hand
    lie beside me
    i just need to say
  • Jeanie wrote:
    :D I don't know some things just lend themselves to pop culture don't you think? ;)

    I'm having a really hard time not quoting Clueless endlessly in this thread!! :D

    Anyway, I'm with you Roland, this whole fingerprinting business reeks of NWO!!! :( :mad:

    yikes..fingerprinting children...that's just damaged in the head to me.

    It's the beginning of something not quite right.

    strange things afoot upstairs me thinks.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

    (\__/)
    ( o.O)
    (")_(")
  • JuberooJuberoo Posts: 472
    i dont have a credit card. ive never owned a car and i dont have a mortgage.
    and these days eftpos takes care of all my needs.


    there's always ways around everything. being an american you should know that. your government does it all the time.
    I sure hope you have a good therapist.

    Even with eftpos, they are tracking your purchases. ooooOOOOoOOOoOoooooo
    Makes much more sense, to live in the present tense.

    A truly liberal person is conservative when necessary.

    Pro-life by choice.
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