Odigo says workers warned of 9/11 two hours before it happened

RolandTD20Kdrummer

slightofjeff wrote:

For the last time: THAT DOESN'T PROVE ANYTHING ABOUT 9/11.

Seriously. You have to be putting me on. You can't possibly be this dense.

I wondering who is dense here. When did I say that solved 9/11?

whoa...

You want to counter two posts up with some more of your stunning logic?

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

slightofjeff wrote:

For the last time: THAT DOESN'T PROVE ANYTHING ABOUT 9/11.

Seriously. You have to be putting me on. You can't possibly be this dense.

just give up. he knows what the point is, he's just dodging it.

slightofjeff

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slightofjeff

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I wondering who is dense here. When did I say that solved 9/11?

whoa...

You want to counter two posts up with some more of your stunning logic?

Jesus Christ. Now you really are just fucking with me.

I don't know where I got the 9.11 stuff from ... EXCEPT IT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS THREAD.

You said: "The government lied about Iraq, ergo they must be lying about 9-11."

They would never ever allow 3000 people to be killed and allow 2 buildings to be blown up..never.

It's almost as crazy as saying they would allow 600,000 people to be murdered and allow hundreds upon hundreds of buildings to be blown up in Iraq.

It's all so different.

I (and others) said: "Just because there were lies about Iraq doesn't prove 9-11 was an inside job."

And yet you KEPT arguing the point. I think you need to confine yourself to one thread at once. You're confusing yourself.

slightofjeff

MrSmith wrote:

just give up. he knows what the point is, he's just dodging it.

I really need to. But I'm kind of fascinated. It's like poking a monkey in a zoo.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

slightofjeff wrote:

Jesus Christ. Now you really are just fucking with me.

I don't know where I got the 9.11 stuff from ... EXCEPT IT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS THREAD.

You said: "The government lied about Iraq, ergo they must be lying about 9-11."



I (and others) said: "Just because there were lies about Iraq doesn't prove 9-11 was an inside job."

And yet you KEPT arguing the point. I think you need to confine yourself to one thread at once. You're confusing yourself.

I'm saying these people lie like shit in a shit factory, and don't care if people die one way or the other period. Point proven.

Next..

I'd like to hear you ramble some about this reality you were so sure of earlier.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5524227&postcount=148

slightofjeff

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

I'm saying these people lie like shit in a shit factory, and don't care if people die one way or the other period. Point proven.

Next..

I'd like to hear you ramble some about this reality you were so sure of earlier.
http://forums.pearljam.com/showpost.php?p=5524227&postcount=148

What exactly would you like to know?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

slightofjeff wrote:

What exactly would you like to know?

agree or disagree?

slightofjeff

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

agree or disagree?

With what? That it would be difficult to plant WMD? I've already agreed to that premise elsewhere on this thread.

Point?

RolandTD20Kdrummer

slightofjeff wrote:

With what? That it would be difficult to plant WMD? I've already agreed to that premise elsewhere on this thread.

Point?

You had said:

slightofjeff wrote:

So this administration was smart enough to plan and execute the murder of 3,000 of its own civilians, with the help of a bunch of Islamic fascists sworn to hate us, plan it down to the tiniest detail and keep the whole thing under wraps for seven years ... but too stupid to be able to throw some WMD out in the desert?

Give me a break.

So it appeared you were saying the opposite.

slightofjeff

RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:

You had said:



So it appeared you were saying the opposite.

I backed off that later in the thread. Or didn't you notice?

I'm willing to admit that it probably would be difficult to plant W.M.D. in Iraq ... but more difficult than the U.S. government conspiring with Al Qaeda to blow up the WTC towers, hit the Pentagon, kill 3,000 people and keep it all under wraps in the planning, execution and cover-up stages?

Some people actually do admit when they've overstated something. Present company excluded, of course.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

slightofjeff wrote:

I backed off that later in the thread. Or didn't you notice?



Some people actually do admit when they've overstated something. Present company excluded, of course.

Ah. Ok.

LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun

slightofjeff wrote:

Some people actually do admit when they've overstated something. Present company excluded, of course.

i dont think you were overstating it, really. how hard could it be? Certainly a lot, LOT easier than planning 9/11

probably just hard enough that the administration was afraid of gettting caught, and in that case the same gov't wouldnt have had the balls to orchestrate 9/11.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

MrSmith wrote:

i dont think you were overstating it, really. how hard could it be? Certainly a lot, LOT easier than planning 9/11

Easier by far...but consequentially as complicated and disastrous if unraveled.

Forget about the towers and the semantics of all that, collapsing, bombs, explosions, airplanes whatever...all distractions to the actual point.

The point is...even if there was one iota of complicity, or looking the other way on certain aspects, it provides indication of an inside job.

Be nice to see those put options traced.

RolandTD20Kdrummer

makes ya wonder...obvious satire of course.

http://homo-sapien-underground.blogspot.com/2008/06/w-hes-not-just-sniveling-cowardhes.html

"I call George W. Bush a coward because when America was betrayed by Israel on September 11, 2001, his response was cowardice and treason. I would have thought that if on September 11, five Israelis were picked up in New Jersey with maps indicating a foreknowledge of the attacks, and with a videotape of them at Liberty Park celebrating as the towers burned behind them, a strong response would be required. We now know W had knowledge of these events because Christopher Ketcham told us so.

The former CIA counterterrorism officer told me: "There was no question but that [the order to close down the investigation] came from the White House. It was immediately assumed at CIA headquarters that this basically was going to be a cover-up so that the Israelis would not be implicated in any way in 9/11. Bear in mind that this was a political issue, not a law enforcement or intelligence issue. If somebody says we don't want the Israelis implicated in this *- we know that they've been spying the hell out of us, we know that they possibly had information in advance of the attacks, but this would be a political nightmare to deal with."

Okay so Mossad spies had been sitting on top of the hijackers for a year and a few in our intelligence agencies were pissed off that there was no real investigation of these Jackals. We also know someone in the cowardly and treasonous Bush administration called off the investigation. And lets get this straight, 3,000 Americans were murdered and our half witted President thought this was a political matter?

But the extent to which out government would go to avoid a reasonable investigation of this matter is phenomenal.

A few days ago I wrote how the employer of the Mossad spies, Domick Suter of Urban Moving Company, was available to greet future hijackers Khalid Almihdhar and Nawaf Alhazmi when they arrived in Los Angeles(they are pictured above). He would eventually follow them to New Jersey. Of course he had to skedaddle back to Israel after a brief interview with the FBI a day after 9/11. In a document later leaked by our Government, his name would appear on a list of wanted terrorists. But how badly did our Government want him? And if they wanted him, why didn't they show us a picture of him. Any one seen a picture of him in a post office. Of course not, he is an Israeli.

We have pictures of Almihdhar and Alhazmi, all kinds of them. Where are the pictures of Suter? Are they classified by our Government too, like the video tapes of the celebrating Mossad movers? Wouldn't a guy that owned a moving company have to have a drivers license with a picture ID? Like this one for example?

Yes, George W. Bush is a sniveling coward and you have been betrayed."

Heineken Helen

NMyTree wrote:

It's funny how nothing ever means anything.

No matter how many oddities.....how many coincidences........how many blatant neglects .........how many pecular instances of failures to respond appropriately and professionally..........

....it all means nothing. Just tin-foil wearing, lunatic ravings from kooks.

Oh man.

book your flight already we need drinks!

Heineken Helen

my2hands wrote:

thats because the whole truth movement ignores THE BIG FUCKING QUESTION? WHO STOOD TO GAIN WHAT AND WHY RISK THIS FOR THAT GAIN?

i want you , right now, to tell me exactly who stood to benefit from 9/11 and then tell me exactly how they actually have benefited from 9/11

in other words, just like every other crime investigation in the history of the world, lets start with the MOTIVE of the crime


go for it

That might well be the easiest question ever posed on this board thank you

Heineken Helen

slightofjeff wrote:

So why not plant WMDs if you're going to lie about them? We could have this circular argument all day.

what if Saddam were to find them before the 'right people' found them? That could be interesting. You're gonna have to get marines to guard them until they're 'found' and then you simply have too many 'lower' people involved. That would be stupid! It's much easier to say they're there and hope the UN inspectors give in to your bullying... and then hey if they not found... we can just remind people how it was Saddam who did 9/11 anyway, enough time will have passed... either way we get what we want :cool:

Heineken Helen

slightofjeff wrote:

We don't have a single person in America who knows how to paint the letters "W," "M" and "D" in Arabic? Jesus, we're more fucked than I thought.

if it were Bush's idea... it would be spelt wrong try explaining THAT to all the countries watching and waiting... 'uh... we found these DMW's by the side of the road'

Heineken Helen

slightofjeff wrote:

If the U.S. government told you the sky was blue, you'd argue, wouldn't you?

Answer honestly.

Of course... it's black ya feckin eejit