agreed this fucking monkey indian is not to be trusted fuck him, and to the thread starter where did you get your writting skills damm ...
thread starter here. what is wrong with my writing skills?
i went to art school, not regular college, that might be it. i can draw like a motherf#@ker tho...
thread starter here. what is wrong with my writing skills?
i went to art school, not regular college, that might be it. i can draw like a motherf#@ker tho...
writing skills are overrated
don't take me seriusly i suck at this too my apologies ....
because your foreign policy has in part caused certain countries in close proximity to you to be poor ... most people who leave central america would never leave if they could make like $20 US a day ... they are only leaving cuz they make $5 ...
yeah how about all the EUROPEAN IMMIGRANTS that have been coming here in droves for the past 10yrs ...that is AMERICA'S fault also ...my father migrated to here from CHILE because it was the best alternative for him to get hi's family to a better place and that is here...in 1968, thanks dad i owe you my life .......
yeah how about all the EUROPEAN IMMIGRANTS that have been coming here in droves for the past 10yrs ...that is AMERICA'S fault also ...my father migrated to here from CHILE because it was the best alternative for him to get hi's family to a better place and that is here...in 1968, thanks dad i owe you my life .......
So are you saying that if you were from Chile your life wouldnt be worth shit.
Amazing. By the way, You should check out how Chile is doing. Looks like a nice place to live in.
yeah how about all the EUROPEAN IMMIGRANTS that have been coming here in droves for the past 10yrs ...that is AMERICA'S fault also ...my father migrated to here from CHILE because it was the best alternative for him to get hi's family to a better place and that is here...in 1968, thanks dad i owe you my life .......
most developed countries have high immigration numbers ... and there is no doubt opportunity exists in america that may not exist in many other countries but that still doesn't change the fact that much of america's wealth has been exploited through economic and military intervention ... if you are proud of the fact companies pay $1.90 an hour to someone in mexico to do a job - then for sure, that's great to you but in my mind - that doesn't make america great ...
there is no splitting hairs ... each item you mentioned can be refuted fairly easily ...
and no ... i would not call america the quintessential democracy ... it's a two party country where one bleeds into another ... voting integrity has long been compromised ... america believes it's the beacon of democracy but it really isn't ...
And easily defended. I agree that our two party political system needs an overhaul, but that is just one aspect of our government beauracracy and does not tell the whole story of American society in general.
If America isn't the world's beacon of democracy, then surely one does not exist.
because your foreign policy has in part caused certain countries in close proximity to you to be poor ... most people who leave central america would never leave if they could make like $20 US a day ... they are only leaving cuz they make $5 ...
Wow, now there is a narrow view. Let's look at our cheif economic policy with regards to our neighbors, NAFTA.
That economic policy has been mostly hostile towards American workers, and a complete failure in its goals. It has been a policy that has benefited our neighbors and hurt our own economy.
US companies have outsourced their operations over the border into Canada and Mexico, costing tens of thousands of American jobs. It has nearly ruined our fruit and vegetable farmers among other industries.
With no tariffs, how can an American farmer compete with produce from Mexico that is grown with cheap labor, leanient labor laws/no inforcement, cheap pesticides that are outlawed by the US EPA, taken to market by a truck that does not meet any sort of government mandated saftey inspection and whose driver has no license? Not to mention the rampant corruption that exist in business down there, that allows Mexican companies to cut even more corners to maximize their profit margins.
It's cheaper to business in Mexico, and American companies have/are investing there in droves!
Besides, it is HARDLY American economic policies that are oppressing neighboring economies. There are a multitude of reasons that Mexio and other countries are not progressing.
Hard to vote him our if he never holds another lection.
Also please tell me how a thread about Chavez consolidating power all of a sudden becomes a thread on raging on America. I know my country has problems. I know my government is far from perfect and that we have in the past participated and carried out some pretty shaddy acts. There are a lot of flaws to this country but not every problem the world has is the fault of the US. Chavez is an asshole who id modeling himself after Castro, great role model to have. Anyone who things that this man is anything but a power hungry disctator is dillusional. Bush may be an asshole and a complete shithead but he pales in comparison to Chavez.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
And easily defended. I agree that our two party political system needs an overhaul, but that is just one aspect of our government beauracracy and does not tell the whole story of American society in general.
If America isn't the world's beacon of democracy, then surely one does not exist.
if america is so great - why is it not even in the top 10 of best places to live nor anywhere near the top in human development indexes?
the last two elections were rigged - even if you choose to not believe that - the anomalies associated with each election is proof in the democratic failures ... no country that is a beacon of democracy would have the election failings the US has had recently ...
Wow, now there is a narrow view. Let's look at our cheif economic policy with regards to our neighbors, NAFTA.
That economic policy has been mostly hostile towards American workers, and a complete failure in its goals. It has been a policy that has benefited our neighbors and hurt our own economy.
US companies have outsourced their operations over the border into Canada and Mexico, costing tens of thousands of American jobs. It has nearly ruined our fruit and vegetable farmers among other industries.
With no tariffs, how can an American farmer compete with produce from Mexico that is grown with cheap labor, leanient labor laws/no inforcement, cheap pesticides that are outlawed by the US EPA, taken to market by a truck that does not meet any sort of government mandated saftey inspection and whose driver has no license? Not to mention the rampant corruption that exist in business down there, that allows Mexican companies to cut even more corners to maximize their profit margins.
It's cheaper to business in Mexico, and American companies have/are investing there in droves!
Besides, it is HARDLY American economic policies that are oppressing neighboring economies. There are a multitude of reasons that Mexio and other countries are not progressing.
the only people that have benefited from NAFTA are the big multinationals and the wealthy ... hence their push for more globalization ... there was some short-term benefit to mexico but long-term it has definitely not paid off
So are you saying that if you were from Chile your life wouldnt be worth shit.
Amazing. By the way, You should check out how Chile is doing. Looks like a nice place to live in.
i am from CHILE and if my parents didn't leave to come here i would probably be working for a lot less than what i make here in this country or dead along with the thousands of dissidents that got killed by the PINOCHET REGIME ,and i know that the coup was backed by the USA but still glad to be here rather than there ....
Hard to vote him our if he never holds another lection.
Also please tell me how a thread about Chavez consolidating power all of a sudden becomes a thread on raging on America. I know my country has problems. I know my government is far from perfect and that we have in the past participated and carried out some pretty shaddy acts. There are a lot of flaws to this country but not every problem the world has is the fault of the US. Chavez is an asshole who id modeling himself after Castro, great role model to have. Anyone who things that this man is anything but a power hungry disctator is dillusional. Bush may be an asshole and a complete shithead but he pales in comparison to Chavez.
well ... one of the arguments against chavez was that he said bush was evil ... and so on ...
i am a "socialist" whatever that means ... but i don't agree with everything chavez has done ... but bush is by far the single biggest fucker in this world ... say what you will about chavez but if you look at how many lives have been affected by this war-mongering president of the US - it doesn't even come close ... and that's just war ... america (like it or not) has significant influence on global policy and there are consequences ... if you are gonna stick your nose everywhere - you have to be able to accept the consequences ...
Given Chavez's history, why would anybody give him the benefit of the doubt? He's a whack job who has oil money to consolidate power, intimidate political rivals and the press, crush dissent, subsidize and therefore blind the lower classes, bribe the elite and pay off anyone else who knows better. He engages in serial propaganda, repeatedly telling his citizens to prepare for an impending American invasion. His idol is Castro for god's sake. And after his UN speech in which he called Bush the devil... are you kidding? What a freak! I feel sorry for the people of Venezuela.
Kind of sounds like someone familiar. Thats George Bush's life story. All you have to do is switch American invasion with terrorist invasion. George Bush is the devil. Along with his nazi family.
if america is so great - why is it not even in the top 10 of best places to live nor anywhere near the top in human development indexes?
the last two elections were rigged - even if you choose to not believe that - the anomalies associated with each election is proof in the democratic failures ... no country that is a beacon of democracy would have the election failings the US has had recently ...
well ... one of the arguments against chavez was that he said bush was evil ... and so on ...
i am a "socialist" whatever that means ... but i don't agree with everything chavez has done ... but bush is by far the single biggest fucker in this world ... say what you will about chavez but if you look at how many lives have been affected by this war-mongering president of the US - it doesn't even come close ... and that's just war ... america (like it or not) has significant influence on global policy and there are consequences ... if you are gonna stick your nose everywhere - you have to be able to accept the consequences ...
let's see, the ego driven, commie ass, bigheaded, tyrant, bitch chavez, wishes he could affect the world as much as bush has!!!!
it's penis envy with him...he hates the fact bush has the POWER!
and he's shit
it's true about the consequences - he keeps fucking around he'll pay the price
let's see, the ego driven, commie ass, bigheaded, tyrant, bitch chavez, wishes he could affect the world as much as bush has!!!!
it's penis envy with him...he hates the fact bush has the POWER!
and he's shit
it's true about the consequences - he keeps fucking around he'll pay the price
Chavez inherited a country so fucked up he has to take steps like this just to reverse the status quo. I dont' agree with it for the most part but it has to be done. This country has seen its natural resources benefitting foreign companies for most of its modern existence-its gonna take more than gov't policy to reverse that.
What I dont' get is how conservatives cry for less handouts, while their gov't gives more. They cry for more freedom, while their representatives take it away. They cry for less gov't as their leaders make more.
But get to the point. A country is democratic insofar as its people have a meaningful say in the democratic process..
IE. if a country is democratic the more gov't it has the more freedom the people have...because its the people who contriol their gov't-not the other way around.
Now they see a society that has potential..that could possibly be the preferential option for the poor that so many US officials have spent years trying to destroy. NOw there is hope for millions of people...But they're trying to tear it down any way they can. ANY tiny piece of worthless news that shows Chavez in a negative light is gonna be aired...foget the steps he has taken to help the country-he is only shown in a negative light-and their are so many goddamn sheep in this country it gets eaten u p.
Chavez inherited a country so fucked up he has to take steps like this just to reverse the status quo. I dont' agree with it for the most part but it has to be done. This country has seen its natural resources benefitting foreign companies for most of its modern existence-its gonna take more than gov't policy to reverse that.
What I dont' get is how conservatives cry for less handouts, while their gov't gives more. They cry for more freedom, while their representatives take it away. They cry for less gov't as their leaders make more.
But get to the point. A country is democratic insofar as its people have a meaningful say in the democratic process..
IE. if a country is democratic the more gov't it has the more freedom the people have...because its the people who contriol their gov't-not the other way around.
Now they see a society that has potential..that could possibly be the preferential option for the poor that so many US officials have spent years trying to destroy. NOw there is hope for millions of people...But they're trying to tear it down any way they can. ANY tiny piece of worthless news that shows Chavez in a negative light is gonna be aired...foget the steps he has taken to help the country-he is only shown in a negative light-and their are so many goddamn sheep in this country it gets eaten u p.
well, this is america and he hates us...so fuck him
No. If people are dumb enough to vote for Bush then that's their problem.
Fuck that. You would be all over this board preaching about how Bush is trying to be King and trample all over the Constitution. We don't need your bullshit agenda.
Venezuala is not a true democracy, and it's a bit misguiding to say that the people are free to vote him out of power if they want.
A true democratic governement/society has an un-fettered press, transparent government, free-market economy, independent judicial system, etc...
Chavez has consolidated his power in a way that he controls most of these institutions and is attempting to control key industries/businesses/companies. And the ones he doesn't either own or influence, he harrasses.
It's painfully clear that he is a committed socialist, and throughout history, regimes such as his have been historically hard to "bring down" or vote out of power.
Previously, the press there was controlled by the rich, and the middle classes. Chavez needed to snatch it out of their hands in order to prevent them from fermenting a coup against him. Seems reasonable to me. Big changes require big actions. Obviously a more than a few people were gonna be upset. Rich kidse don't like having their toys taken away from them. They start crying and making threats.
Previously, the press there was controlled by the rich, and the middle classes. Chavez needed to snatch it out of their hands in order to prevent them from fermenting a coup against him. Seems reasonable to me. Big changes require big actions. Obviously a more than a few people were gonna be upset. Rich kidse don't like having their toys taken away from them. They start crying and making threats.
crap dude, bush farts wrong, it's hell to pay..
this commie waterhead does anything, you are all for it
Name me one positive thing Bush has done for the American people.
tax refunds, unemployment was lower than with clinton at one point, appointed more blacks in high level positions, given more to schools for pubic education (that one's screwed) given more to fight aids in africa than anybody..
Wow, now there is a narrow view. Let's look at our cheif economic policy with regards to our neighbors, NAFTA.
That economic policy has been mostly hostile towards American workers, and a complete failure in its goals. It has been a policy that has benefited our neighbors and hurt our own economy.
US companies have outsourced their operations over the border into Canada and Mexico, costing tens of thousands of American jobs. It has nearly ruined our fruit and vegetable farmers among other industries.
With no tariffs, how can an American farmer compete with produce from Mexico that is grown with cheap labor, leanient labor laws/no inforcement, cheap pesticides that are outlawed by the US EPA, taken to market by a truck that does not meet any sort of government mandated saftey inspection and whose driver has no license? Not to mention the rampant corruption that exist in business down there, that allows Mexican companies to cut even more corners to maximize their profit margins.
It's cheaper to business in Mexico, and American companies have/are investing there in droves!
Besides, it is HARDLY American economic policies that are oppressing neighboring economies. There are a multitude of reasons that Mexio and other countries are not progressing.
American corporate agriculture is heavily subsidized and NAFTA has allowed subsidized American corn to flood the Mexican market putting Mexican farmers out of work leading to a result of increased attempts at illegal immigration to work on american farms.
Wow, now there is a narrow view. Let's look at our cheif economic policy with regards to our neighbors, NAFTA.
That economic policy has been mostly hostile towards American workers, and a complete failure in its goals. It has been a policy that has benefited our neighbors and hurt our own economy.
US companies have outsourced their operations over the border into Canada and Mexico, costing tens of thousands of American jobs. It has nearly ruined our fruit and vegetable farmers among other industries.
With no tariffs, how can an American farmer compete with produce from Mexico that is grown with cheap labor, leanient labor laws/no inforcement, cheap pesticides that are outlawed by the US EPA, taken to market by a truck that does not meet any sort of government mandated saftey inspection and whose driver has no license? Not to mention the rampant corruption that exist in business down there, that allows Mexican companies to cut even more corners to maximize their profit margins.
It's cheaper to business in Mexico, and American companies have/are investing there in droves!
Besides, it is HARDLY American economic policies that are oppressing neighboring economies. There are a multitude of reasons that Mexio and other countries are not progressing.
Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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thread starter here. what is wrong with my writing skills?
i went to art school, not regular college, that might be it. i can draw like a motherf#@ker tho...
writing skills are overrated
respect
don't take me seriusly i suck at this too my apologies ....
Hail, Hail!!!
yeah how about all the EUROPEAN IMMIGRANTS that have been coming here in droves for the past 10yrs ...that is AMERICA'S fault also ...my father migrated to here from CHILE because it was the best alternative for him to get hi's family to a better place and that is here...in 1968, thanks dad i owe you my life .......
So are you saying that if you were from Chile your life wouldnt be worth shit.
Amazing. By the way, You should check out how Chile is doing. Looks like a nice place to live in.
most developed countries have high immigration numbers ... and there is no doubt opportunity exists in america that may not exist in many other countries but that still doesn't change the fact that much of america's wealth has been exploited through economic and military intervention ... if you are proud of the fact companies pay $1.90 an hour to someone in mexico to do a job - then for sure, that's great to you but in my mind - that doesn't make america great ...
And easily defended. I agree that our two party political system needs an overhaul, but that is just one aspect of our government beauracracy and does not tell the whole story of American society in general.
If America isn't the world's beacon of democracy, then surely one does not exist.
Wow, now there is a narrow view. Let's look at our cheif economic policy with regards to our neighbors, NAFTA.
That economic policy has been mostly hostile towards American workers, and a complete failure in its goals. It has been a policy that has benefited our neighbors and hurt our own economy.
US companies have outsourced their operations over the border into Canada and Mexico, costing tens of thousands of American jobs. It has nearly ruined our fruit and vegetable farmers among other industries.
With no tariffs, how can an American farmer compete with produce from Mexico that is grown with cheap labor, leanient labor laws/no inforcement, cheap pesticides that are outlawed by the US EPA, taken to market by a truck that does not meet any sort of government mandated saftey inspection and whose driver has no license? Not to mention the rampant corruption that exist in business down there, that allows Mexican companies to cut even more corners to maximize their profit margins.
It's cheaper to business in Mexico, and American companies have/are investing there in droves!
Besides, it is HARDLY American economic policies that are oppressing neighboring economies. There are a multitude of reasons that Mexio and other countries are not progressing.
Hard to vote him our if he never holds another lection.
Also please tell me how a thread about Chavez consolidating power all of a sudden becomes a thread on raging on America. I know my country has problems. I know my government is far from perfect and that we have in the past participated and carried out some pretty shaddy acts. There are a lot of flaws to this country but not every problem the world has is the fault of the US. Chavez is an asshole who id modeling himself after Castro, great role model to have. Anyone who things that this man is anything but a power hungry disctator is dillusional. Bush may be an asshole and a complete shithead but he pales in comparison to Chavez.
if america is so great - why is it not even in the top 10 of best places to live nor anywhere near the top in human development indexes?
the last two elections were rigged - even if you choose to not believe that - the anomalies associated with each election is proof in the democratic failures ... no country that is a beacon of democracy would have the election failings the US has had recently ...
the only people that have benefited from NAFTA are the big multinationals and the wealthy ... hence their push for more globalization ... there was some short-term benefit to mexico but long-term it has definitely not paid off
i am from CHILE and if my parents didn't leave to come here i would probably be working for a lot less than what i make here in this country or dead along with the thousands of dissidents that got killed by the PINOCHET REGIME ,and i know that the coup was backed by the USA but still glad to be here rather than there ....
well ... one of the arguments against chavez was that he said bush was evil ... and so on ...
i am a "socialist" whatever that means ... but i don't agree with everything chavez has done ... but bush is by far the single biggest fucker in this world ... say what you will about chavez but if you look at how many lives have been affected by this war-mongering president of the US - it doesn't even come close ... and that's just war ... america (like it or not) has significant influence on global policy and there are consequences ... if you are gonna stick your nose everywhere - you have to be able to accept the consequences ...
Kind of sounds like someone familiar. Thats George Bush's life story. All you have to do is switch American invasion with terrorist invasion. George Bush is the devil. Along with his nazi family.
wait....
do you hear it?????
it's........
the......
BLACK HELICOPTERS!!!!!!!!!!!
let's see, the ego driven, commie ass, bigheaded, tyrant, bitch chavez, wishes he could affect the world as much as bush has!!!!
it's penis envy with him...he hates the fact bush has the POWER!
and he's shit
it's true about the consequences - he keeps fucking around he'll pay the price
Chavez inherited a country so fucked up he has to take steps like this just to reverse the status quo. I dont' agree with it for the most part but it has to be done. This country has seen its natural resources benefitting foreign companies for most of its modern existence-its gonna take more than gov't policy to reverse that.
What I dont' get is how conservatives cry for less handouts, while their gov't gives more. They cry for more freedom, while their representatives take it away. They cry for less gov't as their leaders make more.
But get to the point. A country is democratic insofar as its people have a meaningful say in the democratic process..
IE. if a country is democratic the more gov't it has the more freedom the people have...because its the people who contriol their gov't-not the other way around.
Now they see a society that has potential..that could possibly be the preferential option for the poor that so many US officials have spent years trying to destroy. NOw there is hope for millions of people...But they're trying to tear it down any way they can. ANY tiny piece of worthless news that shows Chavez in a negative light is gonna be aired...foget the steps he has taken to help the country-he is only shown in a negative light-and their are so many goddamn sheep in this country it gets eaten u p.
well, this is america and he hates us...so fuck him
Fuck that. You would be all over this board preaching about how Bush is trying to be King and trample all over the Constitution. We don't need your bullshit agenda.
here he is! one of the reasons he wants it - "that a victory in Sunday's referendum would be a defeat for his enemies in Washington"
oh yeah, it could keep him in power until he's 95..
fuck this waterhead
God forbid anyone criticise George Bush! Chavez must obviously be a whackjob!
Previously, the press there was controlled by the rich, and the middle classes. Chavez needed to snatch it out of their hands in order to prevent them from fermenting a coup against him. Seems reasonable to me. Big changes require big actions. Obviously a more than a few people were gonna be upset. Rich kidse don't like having their toys taken away from them. They start crying and making threats.
crap dude, bush farts wrong, it's hell to pay..
this commie waterhead does anything, you are all for it
Name me one positive thing Bush has done for the American people.
tax refunds, unemployment was lower than with clinton at one point, appointed more blacks in high level positions, given more to schools for pubic education (that one's screwed) given more to fight aids in africa than anybody..
American corporate agriculture is heavily subsidized and NAFTA has allowed subsidized American corn to flood the Mexican market putting Mexican farmers out of work leading to a result of increased attempts at illegal immigration to work on american farms.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/07/31/MNGIVK8BHP1.DTL
another clinton victory
and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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