Rosie's comments about Asians

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  • dkst0426dkst0426 Posts: 523
    NMyTree wrote:
    Boohoo. Need a tissue?
    I'm not crying. Feel free to criticize any of the points I've brought up. The personal badgering? Feel free to file that away to use on someone else who may be interested.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    dkst0426 wrote:
    Feel free to criticize any of the points I've brought up.


    I did.

    You're uptight, overly-sensitive and hypocritical. Next time you're watching a comedien, you can't laugh at any jokes that make fun at other races or cultures, which are not Asian, okay? That includes no laughing at gay and lesbian jokes, also.

    Report back and let me know how that goes for you:rolleyes:
  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    dkst0426 wrote:
    So you can't just say it was a conversation with a Chinese person who doesn't speak English? That seemed clear-cut enough to me. For crying out loud, "ching chong ching chong" isn't even a valid Chinese phrase.

    When recounting the insident that I'm referring to yeah, unfortunately and unashamedly I might add, I did have to resort to a pathetic parody of an Asian language that I don't understand when recounting the incident. But I'll say it again because I think you missed it I felt bad because I couldn't communicate effectively in that situation. But what am I supposed to do run out and learn EVERY language just in case I MIGHT need it? What I'm saying is, before you get mad again, I don't see anything wrong with parody when you are up against the language barrier. That would apply in any circumstance with any language and is in my humble opinion "just words and words alone cannot hurt me." People do communicate in different ways, language not being the only barrier, and it helps if you can keep an open mind. If malicious intent is not there I really don't see what the problem is.
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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Okay, so next time your watching a show, a movie, a stand-up comedian or a play where they do a parody or satire on homosexual men and they do that whole gay voice thing and gay mannerisms; or they make fun of whites, blacks, mexicans, Middle Easterners or anyone not Asian; you are not permitted to laugh, snicker, giggle or even smile. The minute you do, you're a full blown hypocrite.
  • dkst0426dkst0426 Posts: 523
    NMyTree wrote:
    I did.

    You're uptight, overly-sensitive and hypocritical. Next time you're watching a comedien, you can't laugh at any jokes that make fun at other races or cultures, which are not Asian, okay? That includes no laughing at gay and lesbian jokes, also.

    Report back and let me know how that goes for you:rolleyes:

    "The View" passes itself off as a roundtable discussion about current events and entertainment news, not as a standup routine by comediAns.

    Thankfully, you mean nothing to me, so as for the reporting thing, yeah........nevermind.
  • dkst0426dkst0426 Posts: 523
    Jeanie wrote:
    When recounting the insident that I'm referring to yeah, unfortunately and unashamedly I might add, I did have to resort to a pathetic parody of an Asian language that I don't understand when recounting the incident. But I'll say it again because I think you missed it I felt bad because I couldn't communicate effectively in that situation. But what am I supposed to do run out and learn EVERY language just in case I MIGHT need it? What I'm saying is, before you get mad again, I don't see anything wrong with parody when you are up against the language barrier. That would apply in any circumstance with any language and is in my humble opinion "just words and words alone cannot hurt me." People do communicate in different ways, language not being the only barrier, and it helps if you can keep an open mind. If malicious intent is not there I really don't see what the problem is.
    My point in response to what you've been saying is that I don't think there needs to be a resorting to parodying the language to begin with.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    dkst0426 wrote:
    "The View" passes itself off as a roundtable discussion about current events and entertainment news, not as a standup routine by comediAns.

    Thankfully, you mean nothing to me, so as for the reporting thing, yeah........nevermind.


    LOL, you're mad about what Rosie said on that sad and pathetic show...The View? :D:D Holy Moly!

    Well, they do make jokes on there and crack on-liners. Like I said, you can no longer laugh at any of the things I mentioned. The very second you do, you're a full blown hypocrite.

    Comedean.......Comedian....Comidean......Comedeen......Comedyan :D:D
  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    dkst0426 wrote:
    My point in response to what you've been saying is that I don't think there needs to be a resorting to parodying the language to begin with.

    Well people are different and it helps to be able to recognize what is malicious and what is not. You seem to be struggling with that. If you can't accept that we are all different and that there are particular characteristics amongst different groups of people and that acknowledging them with humour is a great way to connect with people then I'm sorry for you.:(
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  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    NMyTree wrote:
    LOL, you're mad about what Rosie said on that sad and pathetic show...The View? :D:D Holy Moly!........

    Careful NmyTree you might inflame the religous set with comment's like that!!;)

    I agree with you on this and all you previous posts! Very well put! :)
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  • dkst0426dkst0426 Posts: 523
    Typical, really. Shouldn't have expected any less.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    Remember, no more laughing at the expense of others. Or else you're a hypocrite.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    dkst0426 wrote:
    Typical, really. Shouldn't have expected any less.


    Or .....you shouldn't have expected anything more:D

    Since you are the Grand Master Of Grammar, it's important you stay the course and play the part, correctly.


    :D
  • dkst0426dkst0426 Posts: 523
    LOL--If comedians are as funny as you are, NMyTree, I won't have to worry about laughing at ANYTHING.
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    As usual, I get caught off guard at general lack of sensitivity. And what comes out of it.
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  • JeanieJeanie Posts: 9,446
    dkst0426 wrote:
    Typical, really. Shouldn't have expected any less.

    Yep and there you go again with the generalization and dissmissiveness. Good luck with that hope it gets you what you are looking forward to. I'm off to my Mandarin class now gotta fly..........................
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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    dkst0426 wrote:
    LOL--If comedians are as funny as you are, NMyTree, I won't have to worry about laughing at ANYTHING.


    Oh c'mon, you know that was funny...."Comed yan" That's some funny shit!!

    Maybe one day you'll find a doctor who can remove that HUGE stick out of your ass.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    angelica wrote:
    As usual, I get caught of guard at general lack of sensitivity. And what comes out of it.

    Oh stop.

    This is not about sensitivities.

    This about hypocrisy.

    It's okay for him to laugh at other people's quirks, speech patterns or mannerisms; but don't anyone make fun or laugh at his.

    We should all be able to laugh at our shortcomings, or our mannerisms, or our quirks. None of us are perfect. That's why it's important to able to accept ourselves for what we are and have a sense of humor about ourselves.

    That's why the world is so fucked up. Everyone has to be so damn arrogant and egotistical about themselves. Can't even laugh at themselves.

    Lighten up.
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    dkst0426 wrote:
    By the way, in case anyone out there happened to find her comments humorous--they're not. I'm Chinese, and what she said ranks right up there with the kung fu/martial arts questions, the rice and noodle comments, the eating cats and dogs comments, etc. etc.
    I hear what you are saying. I empathise regarding the insensitivity. I personally found her words kind of shocking, and I think people justifying overlooking this to be somewhat surprising as well. And then I even more empathise with you.
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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    angelica wrote:
    I hear what you are saying. I empathise regarding the insensitivity. I personally found her words kind of shocking, and I think people justifying overlooking this to be somewhat surprising as well. And then I even more empathise with you.


    Oh give me a break!

    They should call this........Humorless Nation:rolleyes:

    Just remember these little words of wisdom:

    If you can't laugh at yourself, everyone else will.
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    NMyTree wrote:
    Oh give me a break!

    They should call this........Humorless Nation:rolleyes:

    Just remember these little words of wisdom:

    If you can't laugh at yourself, everyone else will.
    People don't usually feel like laughing when they've got an unresolved emotional issue.
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  • enharmonicenharmonic Posts: 1,917
    Rosie and Michael Richards should get a sitcom together. They could channel the ghost of Carrol O'Connor as Archie Bunker, and have a real go at offending everyone in the world.
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    enharmonic wrote:
    Rosie and Michael Richards should get a sitcom together. They could channel the ghost of Carrol O'Connor as Archie Bunker, and have a real go at offending everyone in the world.
    Now that's funny!! ....channel the ghost of Carrol O'Connor as Archie....:)
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  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    angelica wrote:
    People don't usually feel like laughing when they've got an unresolved emotional issue.


    Humor is very effective at helping resolve emotional issues.
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    NMyTree wrote:
    Humor is very effective at helping resolve emotional issues.
    You can't resolve emotional issues you are involved in when you won't acknowledge them. Or when you expect people to just "get over it", like you supposedly would. If I'm correct, in this situation, you are not the one who had the issue. And yet you seem to think your idea of solving it should work for that person, while overlooking that person telling you what does or does not work for their issue.

    Humour is providing a smokescreen, here, not a solution. In this thread, and with Rosie.
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    dkst0426 wrote:
    Rosie O'Donnell apology falls flat

    Non-event, huh? Seems pretty convenient when someone from a certain political leaning makes such comments. Can't imagine it would've been a non-event if it had been ohhh, say....a conservative who had made the same comments.

    By the way, in case anyone out there happened to find her comments humorous--they're not. I'm Chinese, and what she said ranks right up there with the kung fu/martial arts questions, the rice and noodle comments, the eating cats and dogs comments, etc. etc.

    is rosie a liberal? does anyone even listen to her anymore? if rosie o'donnell hurts your feelings, racism is the least of your problems.
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    is rosie a liberal? does anyone even listen to her anymore? if rosie o'donnell hurts your feelings, racism is the least of your problems.
    I only need to look through this thread to see that Rosie is the least of the issue, but rather it seems that her comments and her disregard symbolizes a larger problem that seems to be glossed over.
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  • soulsingingsoulsinging Posts: 13,202
    angelica wrote:
    I only need to look through this thread to see that Rosie is the least of the issue, but rather it seems that her comments and her disregard symbolizes a larger problem that seems to be glossed over.

    i dont take anything any comedian says seriously. when they rip into pampered suburban white kids (me) im laughing as hard as anyone else. they're comedians. does anyone give carlos mencia shit for mocking the hispanic accent? shit, i saw one comedian on comedy central whose entire act was making fun of the way his korean mother sounded. it wasn't very funny. but no one was outraged about that. racial differences are perfect fodder for comedy. they make us uncomfortable and finding ways to laugh about them defuses the tension a little bit.
  • NMyTreeNMyTree Posts: 2,374
    The problem is he's a hypocrite and so are millions of others.

    These are the very same people who have no problem laughing it up when the parody or satire pokes fun at gays, blacks, mexicans, whites, middle easterners or anyone else. As long as it doesn't poke fun at their people/race; then it's hilarious to them. But the second someone takes a playful jab at them.......oh my......they suddenly become so very sensitve.

    Not just Asians, but everyone. It's ridiculous.

    How selective.

    What a bunch of bullshit.

    Really, we should start calling this country..."The Spineless and Weak Nation Of Hypocrites"
  • angelicaangelica Posts: 6,038
    No matter how this gets sliced, if someone takes issue with something, and has an honest issue, I hear it and I acknowledge it. With this issue, the level it's being ignored is a little disconcerting. If this sliver I am seeing is a hint at what the op sees, no wonder this is not funny. At all. It's actually very ugly and insidious looking.
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  • fanch75fanch75 Posts: 3,734
    dkst0426 wrote:
    I guess I could be called hyper-sensitive, but truthfully, Rosie's comments are something I would've expected from someone talking about how Orientals talk.......from someone in fifth grade, that is.

    I thought referring to Asian folks as "Orientals" was in itself a no-no? I could be wrong, but I thought as such. Asians are people and Oriental is cuisine.

    That being said, Asian chicks are very pretty, but generally not enough curves on 'em.
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