Rosie's comments about Asians

dkst0426
dkst0426 Posts: 523
edited December 2006 in A Moving Train
So just out of curiosity, where was the outrage from the political-correctness crowd? What if Rosie had said something like "And over in Africa, the newsman said "booga booga Danny DeVito ooga booga The View"?
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  • soulsinging
    soulsinging Posts: 13,202
    what are you talking about?
  • exhausted
    exhausted Posts: 6,638
    rosie's an idiot. and everyone knows it. thus it's not news i guess.
  • BUENA
    BUENA Posts: 165
    dkst0426 wrote:
    So just out of curiosity, where was the outrage from the political-correctness crowd? What if Rosie had said something like "And over in Africa, the newsman said "booga booga Danny DeVito ooga booga The View"?


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  • dkst0426
    dkst0426 Posts: 523
    Rosie O'Donnell apology falls flat

    Non-event, huh? Seems pretty convenient when someone from a certain political leaning makes such comments. Can't imagine it would've been a non-event if it had been ohhh, say....a conservative who had made the same comments.

    By the way, in case anyone out there happened to find her comments humorous--they're not. I'm Chinese, and what she said ranks right up there with the kung fu/martial arts questions, the rice and noodle comments, the eating cats and dogs comments, etc. etc.
  • rosie should just fall off the fucking planet....

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  • PJammin'
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    isn't her time up yet? she's an annoying no-talent idiotic loudmouth. she needs to put more of that energy she uses talking to lose weight instead.
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  • rosie should just fall off the fucking planet....

    and take oprah with her.........

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  • rosie should just fall off the fucking planet....

    and take oprah with her.........

    yeah. i mean, what is another two meteorites floating around out there...
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  • What's so bad about making fun of the way Asian people speak?

    They do sound funny. Like, all she did was point it out.

    You bet yer ass they're making fun of english-speakers who learn chinese.
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  • Jeanie
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    dkst0426 wrote:
    Rosie O'Donnell apology falls flat

    Non-event, huh? Seems pretty convenient when someone from a certain political leaning makes such comments. Can't imagine it would've been a non-event if it had been ohhh, say....a conservative who had made the same comments.

    By the way, in case anyone out there happened to find her comments humorous--they're not. I'm Chinese, and what she said ranks right up there with the kung fu/martial arts questions, the rice and noodle comments, the eating cats and dogs comments, etc. etc.

    I'm sorry you are offended. And I hope you won't be offended by my comments, but from my perspective, as a one language wonder;) do you really think there was malicious intent in her words? Do you really think that her comments promote racisism? What is so offensive in her describing what she hears when she can't speak another language? I'm not trying to offend you any more than you already have been, I'm just curious.:)
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  • Jeanie wrote:
    I'm sorry you are offended. And I hope you won't be offended by my comments, but from my perspective, as a one language wonder;) do you really think there was malicious intent in her words? Do you really think that her comments promote racisism? What is so offensive in her describing what she hears when she can't speak another language? I'm not trying to offend you any more than you already have been, I'm just curious.:)

    i'll answer this...not for anyone, but just for my self...the intent doesn't matter. it's the double standard in application. with her, it's not okay to mock or stereotype lesbians...because she's a lesbian...but it's okay for HER to mock and stereotype an entire culture...FUCK HER!
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  • i'll answer this...not for anyone, but just for my self...the intent doesn't matter. it's the double standard in application. with her, it's not okay to mock or stereotype lesbians...because she's a lesbian...but it's okay for HER to mock and stereotype an entire culture...FUCK HER!

    makes sense to me.
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  • I've got to say, the above mentioned article has the follwoing quote:

    In a phone interview, Lincoln Michel told the AP, "I think by allowing Rosie O'Donnell's cheap jabs at Chinese Americans to go unchecked, then the network is essentially condoning racial and ethnic slurs."

    I'm sorry, but what did this have to do with Chinese Americans? She said in China, not about the Chinese sitting at home watching in the US. Doesn't it matter that Chinese people in general would be offended no matter where they may be if they heard that? It may be nitpicking but I swear, for some Americans there really is no world outside their own door step.
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  • dkst0426
    dkst0426 Posts: 523
    Jeanie wrote:
    I'm sorry you are offended. And I hope you won't be offended by my comments, but from my perspective, as a one language wonder;) do you really think there was malicious intent in her words? Do you really think that her comments promote racisism? What is so offensive in her describing what she hears when she can't speak another language? I'm not trying to offend you any more than you already have been, I'm just curious.:)

    It boils down to her mocking the Chinese language. Yes, I understand she doesn't speak it, and I understand that it's easy to resort to the manner in which she expressed herself.

    However, truth be told, the language/accent thing is one of the biggest stereotypes Orientals struggle to overcome when trying to assimilate into American society. The remarks about martial arts and food and the other things I mentioned can easily be brushed off. One can't help the way they talk/sound when they talk, though.

    I don't think her comments "promoted" racism. I think they only further perpetuated a stereotype about Orientals that has been a source of humor for others for far too long.
  • Jeanie
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    i'll answer this...not for anyone, but just for my self...the intent doesn't matter. it's the double standard in application. with her, it's not okay to mock or stereotype lesbians...because she's a lesbian...but it's okay for HER to mock and stereotype an entire culture...FUCK HER!

    Ok so you are mad at her specifically because you perceive a double standard at play? Don't get me wrong I couldn't care less about Rosie but what exactly about what she said is getting you so riled up? How did you get "mocking and stereotyping an entire culture" from that? I mean who really pays that much attention to her anyway?:)
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  • Jeanie wrote:
    Ok so you are mad at her specifically because you perceive a double standard at play? Don't get me wrong I couldn't care less about Rosie but what exactly about what she said is getting you so riled up? How did you get "mocking and stereotyping an entire culture" from that? I mean who really pays that much attention to her anyway?:)

    first, if you don't care then why are you asking?

    second, making fun of the way someone talks is mocking and stereotyping. it's pretty simple. if you did the same thing by talking with a deep voice and saying that you're a bull-dyke...she'll be offended...understand now? if not, you never will.
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  • dkst0426
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    It was a double standard, not just from her, but from those defending her. If it had been someone identified more or less as a conservative figure, they would have been crucified in the press. What we've seen in response to Rosie instead has been "Oh, it's just overreaction" or "There's no big deal about her anyway" or "Nobody watches The View anymore anyway."
  • sponger
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    I'm half asian and I laughed when I saw that clip. It reminds me of Rocky IV when the fight between Ivan Drago and Rocky is being announced on all those foreign TV stations. Most of us don't speak 10 different languages and so didn't understand what was being said in those TV announcements. That's what makes it funny. We hear the newscaster say a whole bunch of foreign jibberish and then the words "Rocky Balboa" and "Ivan Drago". We're like, "LMAO, I know what they're saying even though I don't really know what they're saying."
  • Jeanie
    Jeanie Posts: 9,446
    sponger wrote:
    I'm half asian and I laughed when I saw that clip. It reminds me of Rocky IV when the fight between Ivan Drago and Rocky is being announced on all those foreign TV stations. Most of us don't speak 10 different languages and so didn't understand what was being said in those TV announcements. That's what makes it funny. We hear the newscaster say a whole bunch of foreign jibberish and then the words "Rocky Balboa" and "Ivan Drago". We're like, "LMAO, I know what they're saying even though I don't really know what they're saying."

    Aah, thank you!:) That's what my addled brain was trying so ineloquently to say. I was just worried because I got it and am now wondering what was so wrong with me getting it? Fact is I don't understand Chinese and recently had an experience where I came away feeling completely inadequate because I didn't and if I had to relate my pathetic attempts at that conversation I probably would have spoken quite similarly (to Rosie) and certainly with NO intent to offend the other person involved!:)
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