Call for lethal injection boycott
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Ahnimus wrote:I agree, and I'm totally against execution. I'm not sure what your question was.
there is no question. i was just disagreeing with your assertion that one must have some predetermined level of sophistication before they are able to debate the immorality of execution.hear my name
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catefrances wrote:there is no question. i was just disagreeing with your assertion that one must have some predetermined level of sophistication before they are able to debate the immorality of execution.
Yea, that point was already brought forward. And I'll admit, my statement stems largely from my disgust with many of the posts. As always, there seems to be a total lack of respect for human life. It's depressing for me, because I have studied Developmental Psychology, Psychology, Criminology and Neurobiology. I continue to this very moment to keep myself informed of new findings. I may not be an expert and wouldn't consider myself sophisticated enough to take part in any policy setting debates, but I know enough to be incredibly irked by the statements made here from positions of total ignorance.I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire0 -
Ahnimus wrote:Yea, that point was already brought forward. And I'll admit, my statement stems largely from my disgust with many of the posts. As always, there seems to be a total lack of respect for human life. It's depressing for me, because I have studied Developmental Psychology, Psychology, Criminology and Neurobiology. I continue to this very moment to keep myself informed of new findings. I may not be an expert and wouldn't consider myself sophisticated enough to take part in any policy setting debates, but I know enough to be incredibly irked by the statements made here from positions of total ignorance.
then you should realise that their opinions are partly the result of their environment. revenge is deeply ingrained in some people. they don't question it cause they don't think there is a need to.hear my name
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this could be the day
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lie beside me
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Issues such as these prompt that chauvinistic sense on
my part that a knowledge of neurobiology would make all
of us better informed voters, family members and teachers.
Arguably, the most important arena in which a greater
knowledge of neuroscience is needed is the criminal justice
system. In some cases, the criminal justice system has
accommodated well the lessons of neurobiology. If someone
with epilepsy, in the course of a seizure, flails and strikes
another person, that epileptic would never be considered to
have criminally assaulted the person who they struck. But in
earlier times, that is exactly what would have been concluded,
and epilepsy was often assumed to be a case of
retributive demonic possession (Eadie & Bladin 2001).
Instead, we are now a century or two into readily dealing
with the alternative viewof, ‘it is not him, it is his disease’.
However, there are an ever-increasing number of realms
in which the legal system has made little headway in incorporating
neurobiology. In this paper, I consider some of the
greatest incompatibilities between these two realms and some of the most important ways in which modern neurobiology
can inform criminology, with an emphasis on the
role of impaired volition in the insanity defence. First, two
caveats: I write this as a scientist, and thus readily anticipate
that some of the representations of the legal realm will
be grossly simplified. Second, I write as an American,
which means that the criminal justice system that I am
most familiar with has some rather unique features to it.
This includes a society with extremely high rates of violence,
of incarceration and of recidivism, a propensity virtually
unmatched in the Judeo–Christian world for
executing criminals (coupled with frequent cases of conviction
of the wrong person in capital cases (Acker et al.
2001)), and well-documented patterns in which the likelihood
of conviction and the severity of punishment differ
systematically as a function of the ethnicity and socioeconomic
status of perpetrators and/or victims.
http://www.hss.caltech.edu/~steve/sapolsky.pdfI necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire0 -
810wmb wrote:here's a thought....hug my nuts
Probably not the best way to demonstrate your sophistication.I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire0 -
Ahnimus wrote:Yea, that point was already brought forward. And I'll admit, my statement stems largely from my disgust with many of the posts. As always, there seems to be a total lack of respect for human life. It's depressing for me, because I have studied Developmental Psychology, Psychology, Criminology and Neurobiology. I continue to this very moment to keep myself informed of new findings. I may not be an expert and wouldn't consider myself sophisticated enough to take part in any policy setting debates, but I know enough to be incredibly irked by the statements made here from positions of total ignorance.
you'd be hard pressed to dismiss my views on the criminal justice system as "total ignorance." get over yourself. your arrogance and condescension are sickening. the fact that you're a wikipedia junkie does not place you one notch above us "unsophisticated" people.0 -
soulsinging wrote:you'd be hard pressed to dismiss my views on the criminal justice system as "total ignorance." get over yourself. your arrogance and condescension are sickening. the fact that you're a wikipedia junkie does not place you one notch above us "unsophisticated" people.
You gotta give him that.
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catefrances wrote:revenge is never humane. we may pride ourselves on our big brains and being above the animals but sadly, we are not.
I totally agree. I also call for the ban of the Taser Gun!I'll be back0 -
soulsinging wrote:you'd be hard pressed to dismiss my views on the criminal justice system as "total ignorance." get over yourself. your arrogance and condescension are sickening. the fact that you're a wikipedia junkie does not place you one notch above us "unsophisticated" people.
I can see you brought a lot to the discussion.
Did you read that article, that book, that other article?I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire0 -
By the way, I'm not just a wikipedia junky. I'll share some other resources.
http://wikibooks.org/
http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/web/home/home/index.htm
http://neuroscience.uth.tmc.edu/index.htm
http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page
http://plato.stanford.edu/
http://www.crimelibrary.com/
http://amazon.ca/
http://www.cdc.gov/
http://www.fbi.gov/
http://www.nih.gov/
http://www.ted.com/index.php
http://tsntv.org/
http://www.who.int/mental_health/en/
http://www.amnesty.org/
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/news.html
http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/
http://www.newscientist.com/news.ns
http://www.sciencemag.org/
http://www.sciencedaily.com/
http://sciam.com/
http://www.berkeley.edu/
http://www.hhmi.org/biointeractive/I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire0 -
Ahnimus wrote:By the way, I'm not just a wikipedia junky. I'll share some other resources.
http://wikibooks.org/
http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/web/home/home/index.htm
http://neuroscience.uth.tmc.edu/index.htm
http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page
http://plato.stanford.edu/
http://www.crimelibrary.com/
http://amazon.ca/
http://www.cdc.gov/
http://www.fbi.gov/
http://www.nih.gov/
http://www.ted.com/index.php
http://tsntv.org/
http://www.who.int/mental_health/en/
http://www.amnesty.org/
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/news.html
http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/
http://www.newscientist.com/news.ns
http://www.sciencemag.org/
http://www.sciencedaily.com/
http://sciam.com/
http://www.berkeley.edu/
http://www.hhmi.org/biointeractive/
ever made love to a woman?i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat0 -
810wmb wrote:ever made love to a woman?
Yes.I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire0 -
I believe in "eye for an eye". Seriously, if someone commits murder then the victim's family should get to do whatever they please to the murderer. What's wrong with that? I mean why shouldn't you take revenge? Sure it won't bring the victim back, but it sure will let you feel kind of good. (knowing you got to beat the living shit out of the person who murdered your wife/brother/sister/husband/mother/father/dog/cat/etc..to death would make you feel like justice had been served) We shouldn't have murderers locked away, they should just be released to the victim's family. Then I bet there would be less and less violence.And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."0 -
in_hiding79 wrote:I believe in "eye for an eye". Seriously, if someone commits murder then the victim's family should get to do whatever they please to the murderer. What's wrong with that? I mean why shouldn't you take revenge? Sure it won't bring the victim back, but it sure will let you feel kind of good. (knowing you got to beat the living shit out of the person who murdered your wife/brother/sister/husband/mother/father/dog/cat/etc..to death would make you feel like justice has been served)We shouldn't have murderers locked away, they should just be released to the victim's family. Then I bet there would be less and less violence.
If someone stole from you and you were initially pissed off, would you be less pissed off if they were Kleptomaniacs?
Likewise, if someone with a PFC lesion murdered your family member, would you be less pissed off than if they did not have a PFC lesion?
Why or why not?I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire0 -
Ahnimus wrote:If someone stole from you and you were initially pissed off, would you be less pissed off if they were Kleptomaniacs?
Likewise, if someone with a PFC lesion murdered your family member, would you be less pissed off than if they did not have a PFC lesion?
Why or why not?
Yes, I would be pissed off because these people are CRAZY! Mentally fucked in the head and they shouldn't be allowed out in the world. They shouldn't be here in the first place...you can't keep excusing these people and saying that they were temporary insane or have mental problems. They fucking killed someone...why wouldn't you want them to be killed? They are obviously defective. You can't excuse this behavior.
As for kleptomaniacs, they should be locked away away for being a thief.And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."0 -
in_hiding79 wrote:Yes, I would be pissed off because these people are CRAZY! Mentally fucked in the head and they shouldn't be allowed out in the world. They shouldn't be here in the first place...you can't keep excusing these people and saying that they were temporary insane or have mental problems. They fucking killed someone...why wouldn't you want them to be killed? They are obviously defective. You can't excuse this behavior.
As for kleptomaniacs, they should be locked away away for being a thief.
Well then, I hope you have to sleep in the bed you are making. Maybe you will suffer brain damage and then you can be killed. Once you realize that your fictitious free-will is only an illusion and the brain is what makes 'You'. Then you can cry yourself to the death chamber you supported.I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire0 -
i say bring back public hangings and start clearing out death rows.0
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in_hiding79 wrote:I believe in "eye for an eye". Seriously, if someone commits murder then the victim's family should get to do whatever they please to the murderer. What's wrong with that? I mean why shouldn't you take revenge? Sure it won't bring the victim back, but it sure will let you feel kind of good. (knowing you got to beat the living shit out of the person who murdered your wife/brother/sister/husband/mother/father/dog/cat/etc..to death would make you feel like justice had been served) We shouldn't have murderers locked away, they should just be released to the victim's family. Then I bet there would be less and less violence.
what is it turns out that that the person is innocent? so the system releases an innocent person to be beaten to death by the original victim's family thus turning them into murders...who then gets to beat them to death? the family of the person wrongly convicted? I think that people only have to look as far as gang violence to see how well revenge doesn't solve anything.*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
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Ahnimus wrote:Well then, I hope you have to sleep in the bed you are making. Maybe you will suffer brain damage and then you can be killed. Once you realize that your fictitious free-will is only an illusion and the brain is what makes 'You'. Then you can cry yourself to the death chamber you supported.
Who wouldn't want to be killed if they suffer brain damage? My will says to pull the plug if I suffer any brain damage. I don't want to live because that isn't LIVING! Terry Shivo lasted way too long...And so the lion fell in love with the lamb...,"
"What a stupid lamb."
"What a sick, masochistic lion."0
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