Ron Paul for President '08,the only REAL choice!

UKDave

69charger wrote:

I'm sure the Redcoats agreed. Our Founding Fathers, however, had a different opinion.

We all know how that one turned out.

Then WW's come around and once again our "gun loving" society comes to the rescue.

Next time I say we pass.

Easy to say from the keyboard, wonder if you'd feel the same if it was you out there and not using your armchair as a shield... muppet...

Tell you what.... put a fucking shield around the US and get on with it yourselves, the rest of the world would be much better off without people like you...

Weren't your founding fathers from all over the rest of the world :rolleyes:

69charger

UKDave wrote:

muppet...

I wanna be Gonzo!

Tell you what.... put a fucking shield around the US and get on with it yourselves, the rest of the world would be much better off without people like you...

Remember that when you are living (or not) under Sharia Law or speaking German again

Weren't your founding fathers from all over the rest of the world :rolleyes:

Sure were! The UK sent their best and brightest 10% during colonization, kept the bottom 10%, and then sent the rest to Austrailia!

JamMastaE

dunkman wrote:

of course I'm interested in the topic or i wouldn't have commented on it? The guy you are promoting as the next President is someone who advocates the apparent non-legislation of guns and their accompanying laws.

I'm not in America but that issue concerns me as a human being who sits on here in relative safety whilst 10 or more kids die per week in your gun-loving nation due to the prevalent misuse of guns... that's when it crosses all borders and becomes a humanitarian concern rather than some faux political concern i might have.. as i said, the guy is an imbecile if he is advocating that people can stock pile guns as long as they don't attack his or other americans property. That's some nice words until, as someone pointed out in this thread, kids are getting killed by irresponsible gun users!

UKDave was kinda saying the same thing as me but in nicer language, so forgive my cursed utterings but when children are dying as a result of gun-ho flag waving American fuckheads then it becomes my concern as a parent and as a human being.

one thing is sure though, I'll continue to post on issues I see fit just as you are most welcome to.

our freedom was won at the barrel of a gun,and the 2nd amendment is to protect our freedom.more people die in car crashes in a year than to guns,shall we take everyones car?you can't own a gun in your country,can you?please tell me what laws are in place in your country.

Ron Paul wants to end gun registration because registration is a means of setting up a system for confiscation which has been a precursor to genocide through out history.


anyway you are wrong about guns try reading this..

http://www.jpfo.org/deathgc.htm


http://www.stephenhalbrook.com/registration_article/registration.html

UKDave

69charger wrote:

I wanna be Gonzo!

Remember that when you are living (or not) under Sharia Law or speaking German again

Sure were! The UK sent their best and brightest 10% during colonization, kept the bottom 10%, and then sent the rest to Austrailia!

You're of australian decent I take it then?

We speak the original language that you now attempt and fail at so magnificently: ENGLISH...

As for Gonzo...... :eek: no freaking comment mate, your private life is your own

dunkman

JamMastaE wrote:

our freedom was won at the barrel of a gun,and the 2nd amendment is to protect our freedom

which you have continued to use to this day to kill and murder each other.... and other nations as well... what has been the longest stretch of time the US has been at peace? you are a nation of immigrants and yet you take about your freedom... what about the freedom of the indigenous people of the US... oh i forgot... you killed them all or made them slaves... great history there

JamMastaE wrote:

more people die in car crashes in a year than to guns,shall we take everyones car?you can't own a gun in your country,can you?please tell me what laws are in place in your country.

very worn out and extremely imbecilic argument... its not even worth countering the car comment. as for Scotlands gun laws... well since some mad fat gay fucker who fondled kids shot dead 16 kids in a primary school (aged 5-7 years old) in Dunblane, Stirling... we banned handguns... its worked a treat as most of our laws do, but it took some mad fucker to get to where we are at the moment, which is a crying shame... the 'funny' part is that he was a registered gun keeper and he even helped at scouts... wow!!! now we just banned all the guns after that and guess what? we havent had a mass killing since or for that matter a double gun homicide, or a kid being shot in the face.. its great!

JamMastaE wrote:

Ron Paul wants to end gun registration because registration is a means of setting up a system for confiscation which has been a precursor to genocide through out history.

anyway you are wrong about guns try reading this..

boring and wrong.. but worse than that its boring... are you going to now quote wikipedia articles about how Hitler took guns away from his people?

69charger

UKDave wrote:

You're of australian decent I take it then?

If you look at what I said, the middle 80% was sent to Australia.

We speak the original language that you now attempt and fail at so magnificently: ENGLISH...

Al-yoo-minni-um? Seriously?!

Aloo-min-um. Say it with me

As for Gonzo...... :eek: no freaking comment mate, your private life is your own

Fuck it! Camilla was HOT! I loved that chicken

UKDave

69charger wrote:

If you look at what I said, the middle 80% was sent to Australia.

Al-yoo-minni-um? Seriously?!

Aloo-min-um. Say it with me

Fuck it! Camilla was HOT! I loved that chicken

I was merely correcting what I saw as your mistake in the numbers as we clearly didn't send 80% of the population to Australia, just the 10% that are better than us at sport...

Based on your aptitude for the English language I thought your maths may be a little challenged too

Yeah... and I bet she felt your love... :eek:

JamMastaE

dunkman wrote:

which you have continued to use to this day to kill and murder each other.... and other nations as well... what has been the longest stretch of time the US has been at peace? you are a nation of immigrants and yet you take about your freedom... what about the freedom of the indigenous people of the US... oh i forgot... you killed them all or made them slaves... great history there




very worn out and extremely imbecilic argument... its not even worth countering the car comment. as for Scotlands gun laws... well since some mad fat gay fucker who fondled kids shot dead 16 kids in a primary school (aged 5-7 years old) in Dunblane, Stirling... we banned handguns... its worked a treat as most of our laws do, but it took some mad fucker to get to where we are at the moment, which is a crying shame... the 'funny' part is that he was a registered gun keeper and he even helped at scouts... wow!!! now we just banned all the guns after that and guess what? we havent had a mass killing since or for that matter a double gun homicide, or a kid being shot in the face.. its great!






boring and wrong.. but worse than that its boring... are you going to now quote wikipedia articles about how Hitler took guns away from his people?

first of all i wasn't around when they were killing native Americans,I'm not happy about that either.

the difference between a slave and a citizen is the right to bear arms.


and finally,you can't argue with these statistics unless you LIKE looking stupid.try reading them this time.


http://www.jpfo.org/deathgc.htm

B nice

Nothingman54 wrote:

I have a better idea....how about Ron Jeremy?

Cosmo wrote:

...
or RuPaul.

or sean paul

dunkman

JamMastaE wrote:

and finally,you can't argue with these statistics unless you LIKE looking stupid.try reading them this time.


http://www.jpfo.org/deathgc.htm

thats a pro-gun website selling a book when your 'sources' are more valid i'll take a look, say for instance your own government who posted this:-

http://www.cdc.gov/MMWR/preview/mmwrhtml/00046149.htm

note the use of 'gov' in the link... its your own governement department producing this report not some guy selling a book

heres a key part of that report from Div of Violence Prevention, National Center for Injury Prevention and Control, CDC:-

The firearm-related homicide rate in the United States was nearly 16 times higher than that in all of the other countries combined (0.94 compared with 0.06); the firearm-related suicide rate was nearly 11 times higher (0.32 compared with 0.03); and the unintentional firearm-related death rate was nine times higher (0.36 compared with 0.04).

please remember these figures are per capita, so dont post about the US having a bigger population...




heres another nugget:-

The overall firearm-related death rate among U.S. children aged less than 15 years was nearly 12 times higher than among children in the other 25 countries combined (1.66 compared with 0.14)