Ron Paul for President '08,the only REAL choice!

floyd1975

dunkman wrote:

i'm not going to let him tell me when i should and shouldnt be posting on a PJ message board for fuck's sake.

That's valuing "freedom of speech" (as you see it) there. You have it but fuck everyone else.

UKDave

zstillings wrote:

That's valuing "freedom of speech" (as you see it) there. You have it but fuck everyone else.

he's not suggesting anyone else hasn't got the right to freedom of speech just pointing out the hypocracy of the statement..

floyd1975

UKDave wrote:

he's not suggesting anyone else hasn't got the right to freedom of speech just pointing out the hypocracy of the statement..

He used the wording "I'm not going to let him..."

UKDave

zstillings wrote:

He used the wording "I'm not going to let him..."

"...stop me..." yeah? what's wrong with that, he's not saying he can't SAY what he said, just that's it's not going to prevent him from responding, where's the argument?

floyd1975

UKDave wrote:

"...stop me..." yeah? what's wrong with that, he's not saying he can't SAY what he said, just that's it's not going to prevent him from responding, where's the argument?

By his warped definition of freedom of speech, he should be letting all that others say wash off his back. He is angry with the other person for exercising the very same freedom of speech that he made his initial comments under.

UKDave

zstillings wrote:

By his warped definition of freedom of speech, he should be letting all that others say wash off his back. He is angry with the other person for exercising the very same freedom of speech that he made his initial comments under.

I think you're grasping at straws, it was simply a response pointing out the hypocracy of the initial statement... not an attempt to preclude him from the discussion... but I'm bored of this now so I will preclude myself as is my right to do so

dunkman

zstillings wrote:

That's valuing "freedom of speech" (as you see it) there. You have it but fuck everyone else.

however you came to that conclusion is a mystery to me, but as UKDave has pointed out further down the thread, i was pointing out the hypocracy of the original poster telling me "you are not from this country so this post is not for you!!" and then supporting a politician who is campaigning against his 'freedoms' being encroached upon...

JamMastaE

dunkman wrote:

however you came to that conclusion is a mystery to me, but as UKDave has pointed out further down the thread, i was pointing out the hypocracy of the original poster telling me "you are not from this country so this post is not for you!!" and then supporting a politician who is campaigning against his 'freedoms' being encroached upon...

do you vote for President in this country??? NO!!! YOU DON'T!!!THAT'S WHY THIS POST IS NOT FOR YOU MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you're not concerned with the topic you just wanna piss people off.

inmytree

JamMastaE wrote:

do you vote for President in this country??? NO!!! YOU DON'T!!!THAT'S WHY THIS POST IS NOT FOR YOU MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you're not concerned with the topic you just wanna piss people off.

did grade school have a snow day in boston...?

UKDave

JamMastaE wrote:

do you vote for President in this country??? NO!!! YOU DON'T!!!THAT'S WHY THIS POST IS NOT FOR YOU MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you're not concerned with the topic you just wanna piss people off.

Nobody outside of the US VOTES for your president but we are all affected by the choice so of course we have a right to comment numbskull :rolleyes:

Feel free to come and debate about the relative merits of other bands / sports etc and we won't say it's got nothing to do with you... what makes you so uncomfortable about this? that our opinions might be different?

JamMastaE

UKDave wrote:

what makes you so uncomfortable about this? that our opinions might be different?

they are irrelevant if you don't vote.you should be more concerned about your OWN fucked up Government,plenty to talk about there.

JamMastaE

inmytree wrote:

did grade school have a snow day in boston...?

want a white wash?

floyd1975

UKDave wrote:

Nobody outside of the US VOTES for your president but we are all affected by the choice so of course we have a right to comment numbskull :rolleyes:

Feel free to come and debate about the relative merits of other bands / sports etc and we won't say it's got nothing to do with you... what makes you so uncomfortable about this? that our opinions might be different?

I can't really get pissed off with the fact that your country restricts your rights on this issue so much. I don't really care too much and don't think it's my place to meddle in your domestic policies. As long as my country doesn't become like yours in those ways, I have no business in it.

UKDave

JamMastaE wrote:

they are irrelevant if you don't vote.you should be more concerned about your OWN fucked up Government,plenty to talk about there.

I am indeed MORE concerned about our fucked up government but it doesn't mean I can't be concerned about your's too and comment on it if I so wish...

And they are not irrelevant, how the US is seen and perceived by the rest of the world is entirely relevant, it's that type of intraspective thinking that causes problems :rolleyes:

UKDave

zstillings wrote:

I can't really get pissed off with the fact that your country restricts your rights on this issue so much. I don't really care too much and don't think it's my place to meddle in your domestic policies. As long as my country doesn't become like yours in those ways, I have no business in it.

haven't a clue where you are coming from on this one? anyway in danger of being snowed in at work so going have to leave you too it

JamMastaE

UKDave wrote:

I am indeed MORE concerned about our fucked up government but it doesn't mean I can't be concerned about your's too and comment on it if I so wish...

And they are not irrelevant, how the US is seen and perceived by the rest of the world is entirely relevant, it's that type of intraspective thinking that causes problems :rolleyes:

i welcome your intelligent comments,please don't get the wrong idea.i was talking to the other guy who just came here to talk shit,not really interested in the topic.

floyd1975

UKDave wrote:

haven't a clue where you are coming from on this one? anyway in danger of being snowed in at work so going have to leave you too it

The issue that he originally started condescending on was the gun laws WITHIN the United States and the Constitution and freedoms that come from the Constitution. These freedoms do not apply to Scotland or its citizens. These are domestic issues. These have nothing to do with him not being a citizen of the United States. Can I say it in an easier way?

JamMastaE

zstillings wrote:

The issue that he originally started condescending on was the gun laws WITHIN the United States and the Constitution and freedoms that come from the Constitution. These freedoms do not apply to Scotland or its citizens. These are domestic issues. These have nothing to do with him not being a citizen of the United States. Can I say it in an easier way?

DING,DING,DING!!! GIVE THAT MAN A PRIZE!!

you understood,very rare on this board.

thank you.

UKDave

zstillings wrote:

The issue that he originally started condescending on was the gun laws WITHIN the United States and the Constitution and freedoms that come from the Constitution. These freedoms do not apply to Scotland or its citizens. These are domestic issues. These have nothing to do with him not being a citizen of the United States. Can I say it in an easier way?

Snow sorry... another time

inmytree

question: why can Americans comment on world affairs (see: Iraq and Iran) but those outside the US are not allowed to comment on US affiars...?