Ron Paul for President '08,the only REAL choice!

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  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    inmytree wrote:
    question: why can Americans comment on world affairs (see: Iraq and Iran) but those outside the US are not allowed to comment on US affiars...?

    I think that people can comment on whatever they want. Once they start caring too much about the domestic affairs of other countries though, they run the risk of looking like shit starting fools. I know some people do fall into this category and so do a lot of non-Americans.
  • RainDogRainDog Posts: 1,824
    zstillings wrote:
    I know some people do fall into this category and so do a lot of non-Americans.
    ;) So, what, now you're implying that non-Americans aren't people?
  • inmytreeinmytree Posts: 4,741
    zstillings wrote:
    I think that people can comment on whatever they want. Once they start caring too much about the domestic affairs of other countries though, they run the risk of looking like shit starting fools. I know some people do fall into this category and so do a lot of non-Americans.

    so, those who comment on Iran, Iraq, N. Korea and so on are shit-starters...? :)
  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    inmytree wrote:
    so, those who comment on Iran, Iraq, N. Korea and so on are shit-starters...? :)

    On the domestic issues of those countries, yes. ;)
  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    RainDog wrote:
    ;) So, what, now you're implying that non-Americans aren't people?

    Well that's just a given. ;)
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    JamMastaE wrote:
    i was talking to the other guy who just came here to talk shit,not really interested in the topic.

    of course I'm interested in the topic or i wouldn't have commented on it? The guy you are promoting as the next President is someone who advocates the apparent non-legislation of guns and their accompanying laws.

    I'm not in America but that issue concerns me as a human being who sits on here in relative safety whilst 10 or more kids die per week in your gun-loving nation due to the prevalent misuse of guns... that's when it crosses all borders and becomes a humanitarian concern rather than some faux political concern i might have.. as i said, the guy is an imbecile if he is advocating that people can stock pile guns as long as they don't attack his or other americans property. That's some nice words until, as someone pointed out in this thread, kids are getting killed by irresponsible gun users!

    UKDave was kinda saying the same thing as me but in nicer language, so forgive my cursed utterings but when children are dying as a result of gun-ho flag waving American fuckheads then it becomes my concern as a parent and as a human being.

    one thing is sure though, I'll continue to post on issues I see fit just as you are most welcome to.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    zstillings wrote:
    The issue that he originally started condescending on was the gun laws WITHIN the United States and the Constitution and freedoms that come from the Constitution. These freedoms do not apply to Scotland or its citizens. These are domestic issues. These have nothing to do with him not being a citizen of the United States. Can I say it in an easier way?

    see my last post.

    another thing that strikes me as strange is that i'm accused of 'starting shit' yet Miller6969 or whatever he is, comes on here and vomits one sentence non- sequiturs that contribute nothing to the debate.... ahhhh but he's on your side of the fence... thats all right then isnt it :rolleyes:
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    dunkman wrote:
    of course I'm interested in the topic or i wouldn't have commented on it? The guy you are promoting as the next President is someone who advocates the apparent non-legislation of guns and their accompanying laws.

    I'm not in America but that issue concerns me as a human being who sits on here in relative safety whilst 10 or more kids die per week in your gun-loving nation due to the prevalent misuse of guns... that's when it crosses all borders and becomes a humanitarian concern rather than some faux political concern i might have.. as i said, the guy is an imbecile if he is advocating that people can stock pile guns as long as they don't attack his or other americans property. That's some nice words until, as someone pointed out in this thread, kids are getting killed by irresponsible gun users!

    UKDave was kinda saying the same thing as me but in nicer language, so forgive my cursed utterings but when children are dying as a result of gun-ho flag waving American fuckheads then it becomes my concern as a parent and as a human being.

    one thing is sure though, I'll continue to post on issues I see fit just as you are most welcome to.

    I guess you just like to throw the second amendment right out the window than?

    Im a gun loving citizen and i have yet to kill anyone. Guns are a part of the american heritage; its not the guns fault when stupid people misuse them.

    Alcohol has been misused plenty of times, should that be prohibited?
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    dunkman wrote:
    see my last post.

    another thing that strikes me as strange is that i'm accused of 'starting shit' yet Miller6969 or whatever he is, comes on here and vomits one sentence non- sequiturs that contribute nothing to the debate.... ahhhh but he's on your side of the fence... thats all right then isnt it :rolleyes:

    He's accused of it all the time by others who seem to stick up for you. I let them take care of calling him out for it.
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    zstillings wrote:
    He's accused of it all the time by others who seem to stick up for you. I let them take care of calling him out for it.

    I am the moving train. Most of my threads gather around 6-7 pages of response.

    Without me the train would go something like this:

    Dunkman: Guns are bad

    Zstilling: yea!


    El kabong: bush brought down the towers

    Ahnimus: Yea!
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • UKDaveUKDave Posts: 5,557
    got a gun, fact i got two
    that's ok man, cuz i love god
    glorified version of a pellet gun
    feels so manly, when armed
    glorified version of a pellet gun
    glorified version of a pellet gun
    glorified version of a pellet gun
    glorified version of a pellet gun
    don't think, dumb is strength
    never shot at a living thing
    glorified version of a pellet gun
    feels so manly, when armed
    glorified version of a pellet gun
    glorified version of a pellet gun
    glorified version of a pellet gun
    glorified version of a...
    always keep it loaded
    always keep it loaded
    always keep it loaded
    kindred to be an american...
    life comes...i can feel your heart...
    life comes...i can feel your heart through your neck...
    life comes...i can feel your heart through your neck...
    like some...i can steal your heart from your neck...
    glorified...glorified...

    :rolleyes:
    Astoria Crew
    Troubled souls unite, we got ourselves tonight...
    Astoria, Dublin, Reading 06
    Katowice, Wembley 07
    SBE, Manchester, O2 09
    Hyde Park 10
    Manchester 1&2 12
    This is just g'bye for now...
  • floyd1975floyd1975 Posts: 1,350
    miller8966 wrote:
    I am the moving train. Most of my threads gather around 6-7 pages of response.

    Without me the train would go something like this:

    Dunkman: Guns are bad

    Zstilling: yea!


    El kabong: bush brought down the towers

    Ahnimus: Yea!

    Looks like you got me wrong.
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    miller8966 wrote:
    I guess you just like to throw the second amendment right out the window than?

    Im a gun loving citizen and i have yet to kill anyone. Guns are a part of the american heritage; its not the guns fault when stupid people misuse them.

    Alcohol has been misused plenty of times, should that be prohibited?


    was that 4 sentences... :eek: i lost count due to me falling asleep during the first one.
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    miller8966 wrote:
    I am the moving train

    I choo-choose you...
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    dunkman wrote:
    I choo-choose you...

    Yea thats funny
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • 69charger69charger Posts: 1,045
    UKDave wrote:
    Nobody outside of the US VOTES for your president but we are all affected by the choice...

    Ain't that a bitch?! ;)

    It speaks volumes that you care so much...

    The UK is so weak. It's kinda like Canada's Hawaii :D
  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    lol@ the UK
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • 69charger69charger Posts: 1,045
    UKDave wrote:
    got a gun, fact i got two
    that's ok man, cuz i love god
    glorified version of a pellet gun
    feels so manly, when armed
    glorified version of a pellet gun
    glorified version of a pellet gun
    glorified version of a pellet gun
    glorified version of a pellet gun
    don't think, dumb is strength
    never shot at a living thing
    glorified version of a pellet gun
    feels so manly, when armed
    glorified version of a pellet gun
    glorified version of a pellet gun
    glorified version of a pellet gun
    glorified version of a...
    always keep it loaded
    always keep it loaded
    always keep it loaded
    kindred to be an american...
    life comes...i can feel your heart...
    life comes...i can feel your heart through your neck...
    life comes...i can feel your heart through your neck...
    like some...i can steal your heart from your neck...
    glorified...glorified...

    :rolleyes:

    I'm sure the Redcoats agreed. Our Founding Fathers, however, had a different opinion.

    We all know how that one turned out.

    Then WW's come around and once again our "gun loving" society comes to the rescue.

    Next time I say we pass.
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    miller8966 wrote:
    lol@ the UK

    why? did you hear us sniggering at you?
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • UKDaveUKDave Posts: 5,557
    miller8966 wrote:
    lol@ the UK

    wtf? I know where I'd rather come from and it's not the land of ignorance pal...
    Astoria Crew
    Troubled souls unite, we got ourselves tonight...
    Astoria, Dublin, Reading 06
    Katowice, Wembley 07
    SBE, Manchester, O2 09
    Hyde Park 10
    Manchester 1&2 12
    This is just g'bye for now...
  • UKDaveUKDave Posts: 5,557
    69charger wrote:
    I'm sure the Redcoats agreed. Our Founding Fathers, however, had a different opinion.

    We all know how that one turned out.

    Then WW's come around and once again our "gun loving" society comes to the rescue.

    Next time I say we pass.

    Easy to say from the keyboard, wonder if you'd feel the same if it was you out there and not using your armchair as a shield... muppet...

    Tell you what.... put a fucking shield around the US and get on with it yourselves, the rest of the world would be much better off without people like you...

    Weren't your founding fathers from all over the rest of the world :rolleyes:
    Astoria Crew
    Troubled souls unite, we got ourselves tonight...
    Astoria, Dublin, Reading 06
    Katowice, Wembley 07
    SBE, Manchester, O2 09
    Hyde Park 10
    Manchester 1&2 12
    This is just g'bye for now...
  • 69charger69charger Posts: 1,045
    UKDave wrote:
    muppet...

    I wanna be Gonzo!
    Tell you what.... put a fucking shield around the US and get on with it yourselves, the rest of the world would be much better off without people like you...

    Remember that when you are living (or not) under Sharia Law or speaking German again ;)
    Weren't your founding fathers from all over the rest of the world :rolleyes:

    Sure were! The UK sent their best and brightest 10% during colonization, kept the bottom 10%, and then sent the rest to Austrailia!
  • dunkman wrote:
    of course I'm interested in the topic or i wouldn't have commented on it? The guy you are promoting as the next President is someone who advocates the apparent non-legislation of guns and their accompanying laws.

    I'm not in America but that issue concerns me as a human being who sits on here in relative safety whilst 10 or more kids die per week in your gun-loving nation due to the prevalent misuse of guns... that's when it crosses all borders and becomes a humanitarian concern rather than some faux political concern i might have.. as i said, the guy is an imbecile if he is advocating that people can stock pile guns as long as they don't attack his or other americans property. That's some nice words until, as someone pointed out in this thread, kids are getting killed by irresponsible gun users!

    UKDave was kinda saying the same thing as me but in nicer language, so forgive my cursed utterings but when children are dying as a result of gun-ho flag waving American fuckheads then it becomes my concern as a parent and as a human being.

    one thing is sure though, I'll continue to post on issues I see fit just as you are most welcome to.



    our freedom was won at the barrel of a gun,and the 2nd amendment is to protect our freedom.more people die in car crashes in a year than to guns,shall we take everyones car?you can't own a gun in your country,can you?please tell me what laws are in place in your country.

    Ron Paul wants to end gun registration because registration is a means of setting up a system for confiscation which has been a precursor to genocide through out history.


    anyway you are wrong about guns try reading this..

    http://www.jpfo.org/deathgc.htm


    http://www.stephenhalbrook.com/registration_article/registration.html
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


    "I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
    Emiliano Zapata
  • UKDaveUKDave Posts: 5,557
    69charger wrote:
    I wanna be Gonzo!

    Remember that when you are living (or not) under Sharia Law or speaking German again ;)

    Sure were! The UK sent their best and brightest 10% during colonization, kept the bottom 10%, and then sent the rest to Austrailia!

    You're of australian decent I take it then? ;)

    We speak the original language that you now attempt and fail at so magnificently: ENGLISH... :D:D

    As for Gonzo...... :eek: no freaking comment mate, your private life is your own :D:D
    Astoria Crew
    Troubled souls unite, we got ourselves tonight...
    Astoria, Dublin, Reading 06
    Katowice, Wembley 07
    SBE, Manchester, O2 09
    Hyde Park 10
    Manchester 1&2 12
    This is just g'bye for now...
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    JamMastaE wrote:
    our freedom was won at the barrel of a gun,and the 2nd amendment is to protect our freedom

    which you have continued to use to this day to kill and murder each other.... and other nations as well... what has been the longest stretch of time the US has been at peace? you are a nation of immigrants and yet you take about your freedom... what about the freedom of the indigenous people of the US... oh i forgot... you killed them all or made them slaves... great history there :D

    JamMastaE wrote:
    more people die in car crashes in a year than to guns,shall we take everyones car?you can't own a gun in your country,can you?please tell me what laws are in place in your country.

    very worn out and extremely imbecilic argument... its not even worth countering the car comment. as for Scotlands gun laws... well since some mad fat gay fucker who fondled kids shot dead 16 kids in a primary school (aged 5-7 years old) in Dunblane, Stirling... we banned handguns... its worked a treat as most of our laws do, but it took some mad fucker to get to where we are at the moment, which is a crying shame... the 'funny' part is that he was a registered gun keeper and he even helped at scouts... wow!!! now we just banned all the guns after that and guess what? we havent had a mass killing since or for that matter a double gun homicide, or a kid being shot in the face.. its great!



    JamMastaE wrote:
    Ron Paul wants to end gun registration because registration is a means of setting up a system for confiscation which has been a precursor to genocide through out history.

    anyway you are wrong about guns try reading this..

    boring and wrong.. but worse than that its boring... are you going to now quote wikipedia articles about how Hitler took guns away from his people?
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • 69charger69charger Posts: 1,045
    UKDave wrote:
    You're of australian decent I take it then? ;)

    If you look at what I said, the middle 80% was sent to Australia.
    We speak the original language that you now attempt and fail at so magnificently: ENGLISH... :D:D

    Al-yoo-minni-um? Seriously?!

    Aloo-min-um. Say it with me ;)
    As for Gonzo...... :eek: no freaking comment mate, your private life is your own :D:D

    Fuck it! Camilla was HOT! I loved that chicken ;)
  • UKDaveUKDave Posts: 5,557
    69charger wrote:
    If you look at what I said, the middle 80% was sent to Australia.

    Al-yoo-minni-um? Seriously?!

    Aloo-min-um. Say it with me ;)

    Fuck it! Camilla was HOT! I loved that chicken ;)

    I was merely correcting what I saw as your mistake in the numbers as we clearly didn't send 80% of the population to Australia, just the 10% that are better than us at sport... :o

    Based on your aptitude for the English language I thought your maths may be a little challenged too ;)

    Yeah... and I bet she felt your love... :eek:
    Astoria Crew
    Troubled souls unite, we got ourselves tonight...
    Astoria, Dublin, Reading 06
    Katowice, Wembley 07
    SBE, Manchester, O2 09
    Hyde Park 10
    Manchester 1&2 12
    This is just g'bye for now...
  • dunkman wrote:
    which you have continued to use to this day to kill and murder each other.... and other nations as well... what has been the longest stretch of time the US has been at peace? you are a nation of immigrants and yet you take about your freedom... what about the freedom of the indigenous people of the US... oh i forgot... you killed them all or made them slaves... great history there :D




    very worn out and extremely imbecilic argument... its not even worth countering the car comment. as for Scotlands gun laws... well since some mad fat gay fucker who fondled kids shot dead 16 kids in a primary school (aged 5-7 years old) in Dunblane, Stirling... we banned handguns... its worked a treat as most of our laws do, but it took some mad fucker to get to where we are at the moment, which is a crying shame... the 'funny' part is that he was a registered gun keeper and he even helped at scouts... wow!!! now we just banned all the guns after that and guess what? we havent had a mass killing since or for that matter a double gun homicide, or a kid being shot in the face.. its great!






    boring and wrong.. but worse than that its boring... are you going to now quote wikipedia articles about how Hitler took guns away from his people?


    first of all i wasn't around when they were killing native Americans,I'm not happy about that either.

    the difference between a slave and a citizen is the right to bear arms.


    and finally,you can't argue with these statistics unless you LIKE looking stupid.try reading them this time.


    http://www.jpfo.org/deathgc.htm
    "In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain


    "I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
    Emiliano Zapata
  • B niceB nice Posts: 182
    I have a better idea....how about Ron Jeremy?

    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    or RuPaul.


    or sean paul
    life has nothing to do with killing time
    Bring it on cause I'm no victim

    b nice loves pearl jam like ed vedder loves america
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    JamMastaE wrote:
    and finally,you can't argue with these statistics unless you LIKE looking stupid.try reading them this time.


    http://www.jpfo.org/deathgc.htm

    thats a pro-gun website selling a book :D when your 'sources' are more valid i'll take a look, say for instance your own government who posted this:-

    http://www.cdc.gov/MMWR/preview/mmwrhtml/00046149.htm

    note the use of 'gov' in the link... its your own governement department producing this report not some guy selling a book

    heres a key part of that report from Div of Violence Prevention, National Center for Injury Prevention and Control, CDC:-

    The firearm-related homicide rate in the United States was nearly 16 times higher than that in all of the other countries combined (0.94 compared with 0.06); the firearm-related suicide rate was nearly 11 times higher (0.32 compared with 0.03); and the unintentional firearm-related death rate was nine times higher (0.36 compared with 0.04).

    please remember these figures are per capita, so dont post about the US having a bigger population...




    heres another nugget:-

    The overall firearm-related death rate among U.S. children aged less than 15 years was nearly 12 times higher than among children in the other 25 countries combined (1.66 compared with 0.14)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
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