anyone who has the balls to say this out loud should be our President.A patriot and true American.
Abolish the Federal Reserve!
By REP. RON PAUL
Mr. Speaker, I rise to introduce legislation to restore financial stability to America's economy by abolishing the Federal Reserve. I also ask unanimous consent to insert the attached article by Lew Rockwell, president of the Ludwig Von Mises Institute, which explains the benefits of abolishing the Fed and restoring the gold standard, into the record.
Since the creation of the Federal Reserve, middle and working-class Americans have been victimized by a boom-and-bust monetary policy. In addition, most Americans have suffered a steadily eroding purchasing power because of the Federal Reserve's inflationary policies. This represents a real, if hidden, tax imposed on the American people.
From the Great Depression, to the stagflation of the seventies, to the burst of the dotcom bubble last year, every economic downturn suffered by the country over the last 80 years can be traced to Federal Reserve policy. The Fed has followed a consistent policy of flooding the economy with easy money, leading to a misallocation of resources and an artificial "boom" followed by a recession or depression when the Fed-created bubble bursts.
With a stable currency, American exporters will no longer be held hostage to an erratic monetary policy. Stabilizing the currency will also give Americans new incentives to save as they will no longer have to fear inflation eroding their savings. Those members concerned about increasing America's exports or the low rate of savings should be enthusiastic supporters of this legislation.
Though the Federal Reserve policy harms the average American, it benefits those in a position to take advantage of the cycles in monetary policy. The main beneficiaries are those who receive access to artificially inflated money and/or credit before the inflationary effects of the policy impact the entire economy. Federal Reserve policies also benefit big spending politicians who use the inflated currency created by the Fed to hide the true costs of the welfare-warfare state. It is time for Congress to put the interests of the American people ahead of the special interests and their own appetite for big government.
Abolishing the Federal Reserve will allow Congress to reassert its constitutional authority over monetary policy. The United States Constitution grants to Congress the authority to coin money and regulate the value of the currency. The Constitution does not give Congress the authority to delegate control over monetary policy to a central bank. Furthermore, the Constitution certainly does not empower the federal government to erode the American standard of living via an inflationary monetary policy.
In fact, Congress' constitutional mandate regarding monetary policy should only permit currency backed by stable commodities such as silver and gold to be used as legal tender. Therefore, abolishing the Federal Reserve and returning to a constitutional system will enable America to return to the type of monetary system envisioned by our nation's founders: one where the value of money is consistent because it is tied to a commodity such as gold. Such a monetary system is the basis of a true free-market economy.
In conclusion, Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to stand up for working Americans by putting an end to the manipulation of the money supply which erodes Americans' standard of living, enlarges big government, and enriches well-connected elites, by cosponsoring my legislation to abolish the Federal Reserve.
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
you are not from this country so this post is not for you!!
who the fuck are you telling me what not to post and when to post... i'll post what i like when i like... if you dont like it then fuck off
how ironic is it that an american is chastising an outsider, a foreigner, for having an interest in american politics and affairs.... isnt that what america does best, pokes its nose into other countries political and economical affairs and yet when i do it to you, you get offended and tell me i dont live in your country therefore i have no say... get the fuck out of Iraq then!!! :rolleyes:
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
anyone who has the balls to say this out loud should be our President.A patriot and true American.
Abolish the Federal Reserve!
By REP. RON PAUL
ron paul better be careful with this.. kennedy opposed the federal reserve and ended up dead.
i agree, ron paul is the best choice for president. he's exactly the kind of reformist we need. but, sadly, with the way things go in this country when it comes to elections, he's got no shot. the media tells us who the candidates are, and paul will get no attention. or, if he does get attention, he'll be portrayed as some sort of loon and be discredited.
i'm more a fan of popular bands.. like the bee-gees, pearl jam
who the fuck are you telling me what not to post and when to post... i'll post what i like when i like... if you dont like it then fuck off
how ironic is it that an american is chastising an outsider, a foreigner, for having an interest in american politics and affairs.... isnt that what america does best, pokes its nose into other countries political and economical affairs and yet when i do it to you, you get offended and tell me i dont live in your country therefore i have no say... get the fuck out of Iraq then!!! :rolleyes:
I'm all for getting out of Iraq,I'm also for not sticking our nose in affairs that don't concern us(our forefathers thought the same way).I'm also for you fucking off if your only gonna talk shit.
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
I'm also for you fucking off if your only gonna talk shit.
see my last post... what i want when i want.
freedom of speech
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
This is the most overused, bullshit line on this board or anywhere else for that matter.
but increduously its what most of you americans seem to whinge on about all the time
ooooo my freedoms are being taken away...
:rolleyes:
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
but increduously its what most of you americans seem to whinge on about all the time
ooooo my freedoms are being taken away...
:rolleyes:
It's a big difference when it's the government (those to whom the law actually applies) and some guy telling you to shut up on a private message board.
It's a big difference when it's the government (those to whom the law actually applies) and some guy telling you to shut up on a private message board.
the guy was telling me "you are not from this country so this post is not for you!!" and i'm saying i can have my comment on it as i wish... its an international message board and i'll say what i want... thats my own personal freedom of speech.
i'm not going to let him tell me when i should and shouldnt be posting on a PJ message board for fuck's sake.
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
That's valuing "freedom of speech" (as you see it) there. You have it but fuck everyone else.
he's not suggesting anyone else hasn't got the right to freedom of speech just pointing out the hypocracy of the statement..
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"...stop me..." yeah? what's wrong with that, he's not saying he can't SAY what he said, just that's it's not going to prevent him from responding, where's the argument?
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"...stop me..." yeah? what's wrong with that, he's not saying he can't SAY what he said, just that's it's not going to prevent him from responding, where's the argument?
By his warped definition of freedom of speech, he should be letting all that others say wash off his back. He is angry with the other person for exercising the very same freedom of speech that he made his initial comments under.
By his warped definition of freedom of speech, he should be letting all that others say wash off his back. He is angry with the other person for exercising the very same freedom of speech that he made his initial comments under.
I think you're grasping at straws, it was simply a response pointing out the hypocracy of the initial statement... not an attempt to preclude him from the discussion... but I'm bored of this now so I will preclude myself as is my right to do so
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That's valuing "freedom of speech" (as you see it) there. You have it but fuck everyone else.
however you came to that conclusion is a mystery to me, but as UKDave has pointed out further down the thread, i was pointing out the hypocracy of the original poster telling me "you are not from this country so this post is not for you!!" and then supporting a politician who is campaigning against his 'freedoms' being encroached upon...
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
however you came to that conclusion is a mystery to me, but as UKDave has pointed out further down the thread, i was pointing out the hypocracy of the original poster telling me "you are not from this country so this post is not for you!!" and then supporting a politician who is campaigning against his 'freedoms' being encroached upon...
do you vote for President in this country??? NO!!! YOU DON'T!!!THAT'S WHY THIS POST IS NOT FOR YOU MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you're not concerned with the topic you just wanna piss people off.
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
do you vote for President in this country??? NO!!! YOU DON'T!!!THAT'S WHY THIS POST IS NOT FOR YOU MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you're not concerned with the topic you just wanna piss people off.
Nobody outside of the US VOTES for your president but we are all affected by the choice so of course we have a right to comment numbskull :rolleyes:
Feel free to come and debate about the relative merits of other bands / sports etc and we won't say it's got nothing to do with you... what makes you so uncomfortable about this? that our opinions might be different?
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what makes you so uncomfortable about this? that our opinions might be different?
they are irrelevant if you don't vote.you should be more concerned about your OWN fucked up Government,plenty to talk about there.
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
Nobody outside of the US VOTES for your president but we are all affected by the choice so of course we have a right to comment numbskull :rolleyes:
Feel free to come and debate about the relative merits of other bands / sports etc and we won't say it's got nothing to do with you... what makes you so uncomfortable about this? that our opinions might be different?
I can't really get pissed off with the fact that your country restricts your rights on this issue so much. I don't really care too much and don't think it's my place to meddle in your domestic policies. As long as my country doesn't become like yours in those ways, I have no business in it.
they are irrelevant if you don't vote.you should be more concerned about your OWN fucked up Government,plenty to talk about there.
I am indeed MORE concerned about our fucked up government but it doesn't mean I can't be concerned about your's too and comment on it if I so wish...
And they are not irrelevant, how the US is seen and perceived by the rest of the world is entirely relevant, it's that type of intraspective thinking that causes problems :rolleyes:
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I can't really get pissed off with the fact that your country restricts your rights on this issue so much. I don't really care too much and don't think it's my place to meddle in your domestic policies. As long as my country doesn't become like yours in those ways, I have no business in it.
haven't a clue where you are coming from on this one? anyway in danger of being snowed in at work so going have to leave you too it
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I am indeed MORE concerned about our fucked up government but it doesn't mean I can't be concerned about your's too and comment on it if I so wish...
And they are not irrelevant, how the US is seen and perceived by the rest of the world is entirely relevant, it's that type of intraspective thinking that causes problems :rolleyes:
i welcome your intelligent comments,please don't get the wrong idea.i was talking to the other guy who just came here to talk shit,not really interested in the topic.
"In the beginning of a change the patriot is a scarce man, and brave, and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot". Mark Twain
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
haven't a clue where you are coming from on this one? anyway in danger of being snowed in at work so going have to leave you too it
The issue that he originally started condescending on was the gun laws WITHIN the United States and the Constitution and freedoms that come from the Constitution. These freedoms do not apply to Scotland or its citizens. These are domestic issues. These have nothing to do with him not being a citizen of the United States. Can I say it in an easier way?
The issue that he originally started condescending on was the gun laws WITHIN the United States and the Constitution and freedoms that come from the Constitution. These freedoms do not apply to Scotland or its citizens. These are domestic issues. These have nothing to do with him not being a citizen of the United States. Can I say it in an easier way?
DING,DING,DING!!! GIVE THAT MAN A PRIZE!!
you understood,very rare on this board.
thank you.
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"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
The issue that he originally started condescending on was the gun laws WITHIN the United States and the Constitution and freedoms that come from the Constitution. These freedoms do not apply to Scotland or its citizens. These are domestic issues. These have nothing to do with him not being a citizen of the United States. Can I say it in an easier way?
Snow sorry... another time
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Comments
Abolish the Federal Reserve!
By REP. RON PAUL
Mr. Speaker, I rise to introduce legislation to restore financial stability to America's economy by abolishing the Federal Reserve. I also ask unanimous consent to insert the attached article by Lew Rockwell, president of the Ludwig Von Mises Institute, which explains the benefits of abolishing the Fed and restoring the gold standard, into the record.
Since the creation of the Federal Reserve, middle and working-class Americans have been victimized by a boom-and-bust monetary policy. In addition, most Americans have suffered a steadily eroding purchasing power because of the Federal Reserve's inflationary policies. This represents a real, if hidden, tax imposed on the American people.
From the Great Depression, to the stagflation of the seventies, to the burst of the dotcom bubble last year, every economic downturn suffered by the country over the last 80 years can be traced to Federal Reserve policy. The Fed has followed a consistent policy of flooding the economy with easy money, leading to a misallocation of resources and an artificial "boom" followed by a recession or depression when the Fed-created bubble bursts.
With a stable currency, American exporters will no longer be held hostage to an erratic monetary policy. Stabilizing the currency will also give Americans new incentives to save as they will no longer have to fear inflation eroding their savings. Those members concerned about increasing America's exports or the low rate of savings should be enthusiastic supporters of this legislation.
Though the Federal Reserve policy harms the average American, it benefits those in a position to take advantage of the cycles in monetary policy. The main beneficiaries are those who receive access to artificially inflated money and/or credit before the inflationary effects of the policy impact the entire economy. Federal Reserve policies also benefit big spending politicians who use the inflated currency created by the Fed to hide the true costs of the welfare-warfare state. It is time for Congress to put the interests of the American people ahead of the special interests and their own appetite for big government.
Abolishing the Federal Reserve will allow Congress to reassert its constitutional authority over monetary policy. The United States Constitution grants to Congress the authority to coin money and regulate the value of the currency. The Constitution does not give Congress the authority to delegate control over monetary policy to a central bank. Furthermore, the Constitution certainly does not empower the federal government to erode the American standard of living via an inflationary monetary policy.
In fact, Congress' constitutional mandate regarding monetary policy should only permit currency backed by stable commodities such as silver and gold to be used as legal tender. Therefore, abolishing the Federal Reserve and returning to a constitutional system will enable America to return to the type of monetary system envisioned by our nation's founders: one where the value of money is consistent because it is tied to a commodity such as gold. Such a monetary system is the basis of a true free-market economy.
In conclusion, Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to stand up for working Americans by putting an end to the manipulation of the money supply which erodes Americans' standard of living, enlarges big government, and enriches well-connected elites, by cosponsoring my legislation to abolish the Federal Reserve.
http://www.worldnewsstand.net/today/articles/fedprivatelyowned.htm
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
"What I lack in decorum, I make up for with an absence of tact."
Camden 5-28-06
Washington, D.C. 6-22-08
who the fuck are you telling me what not to post and when to post... i'll post what i like when i like... if you dont like it then fuck off
how ironic is it that an american is chastising an outsider, a foreigner, for having an interest in american politics and affairs.... isnt that what america does best, pokes its nose into other countries political and economical affairs and yet when i do it to you, you get offended and tell me i dont live in your country therefore i have no say... get the fuck out of Iraq then!!! :rolleyes:
ron paul better be careful with this.. kennedy opposed the federal reserve and ended up dead.
i agree, ron paul is the best choice for president. he's exactly the kind of reformist we need. but, sadly, with the way things go in this country when it comes to elections, he's got no shot. the media tells us who the candidates are, and paul will get no attention. or, if he does get attention, he'll be portrayed as some sort of loon and be discredited.
I'm all for getting out of Iraq,I'm also for not sticking our nose in affairs that don't concern us(our forefathers thought the same way).I'm also for you fucking off if your only gonna talk shit.
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
see my last post... what i want when i want.
freedom of speech
This is the most overused, bullshit line on this board or anywhere else for that matter.
but increduously its what most of you americans seem to whinge on about all the time
ooooo my freedoms are being taken away...
:rolleyes:
It's a big difference when it's the government (those to whom the law actually applies) and some guy telling you to shut up on a private message board.
the guy was telling me "you are not from this country so this post is not for you!!" and i'm saying i can have my comment on it as i wish... its an international message board and i'll say what i want... thats my own personal freedom of speech.
i'm not going to let him tell me when i should and shouldnt be posting on a PJ message board for fuck's sake.
That's valuing "freedom of speech" (as you see it) there. You have it but fuck everyone else.
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He used the wording "I'm not going to let him..."
"...stop me..." yeah? what's wrong with that, he's not saying he can't SAY what he said, just that's it's not going to prevent him from responding, where's the argument?
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By his warped definition of freedom of speech, he should be letting all that others say wash off his back. He is angry with the other person for exercising the very same freedom of speech that he made his initial comments under.
I think you're grasping at straws, it was simply a response pointing out the hypocracy of the initial statement... not an attempt to preclude him from the discussion... but I'm bored of this now so I will preclude myself as is my right to do so
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however you came to that conclusion is a mystery to me, but as UKDave has pointed out further down the thread, i was pointing out the hypocracy of the original poster telling me "you are not from this country so this post is not for you!!" and then supporting a politician who is campaigning against his 'freedoms' being encroached upon...
do you vote for President in this country??? NO!!! YOU DON'T!!!THAT'S WHY THIS POST IS NOT FOR YOU MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you're not concerned with the topic you just wanna piss people off.
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
did grade school have a snow day in boston...?
Nobody outside of the US VOTES for your president but we are all affected by the choice so of course we have a right to comment numbskull :rolleyes:
Feel free to come and debate about the relative merits of other bands / sports etc and we won't say it's got nothing to do with you... what makes you so uncomfortable about this? that our opinions might be different?
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they are irrelevant if you don't vote.you should be more concerned about your OWN fucked up Government,plenty to talk about there.
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
want a white wash?
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
I can't really get pissed off with the fact that your country restricts your rights on this issue so much. I don't really care too much and don't think it's my place to meddle in your domestic policies. As long as my country doesn't become like yours in those ways, I have no business in it.
I am indeed MORE concerned about our fucked up government but it doesn't mean I can't be concerned about your's too and comment on it if I so wish...
And they are not irrelevant, how the US is seen and perceived by the rest of the world is entirely relevant, it's that type of intraspective thinking that causes problems :rolleyes:
Troubled souls unite, we got ourselves tonight...
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Troubled souls unite, we got ourselves tonight...
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i welcome your intelligent comments,please don't get the wrong idea.i was talking to the other guy who just came here to talk shit,not really interested in the topic.
"I would rather die on my feet than to live on my knees."
Emiliano Zapata
The issue that he originally started condescending on was the gun laws WITHIN the United States and the Constitution and freedoms that come from the Constitution. These freedoms do not apply to Scotland or its citizens. These are domestic issues. These have nothing to do with him not being a citizen of the United States. Can I say it in an easier way?
DING,DING,DING!!! GIVE THAT MAN A PRIZE!!
you understood,very rare on this board.
thank you.
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Emiliano Zapata
Snow
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