Ron Paul for President '08,the only REAL choice!

gue_barium

I'd vote for him over any of those who have announced their candicacy in the past six months, and probably over anyone who will announce their candicacy in the next 16 months.

jeffbr

gue_barium wrote:

I'd vote for him over any of those who have announced their candicacy in the past six months, and probably over anyone who will announce their candicacy in the next 16 months.

Count me in. Ron Paul will have my vote (although I'd prefer he ran as a Libertarian).

gue_barium

jeffbr wrote:

Count me in. Ron Paul will have my vote (although I'd prefer he ran as a Libertarian).

He is Libertarian-like, yet a Constitutional supremist. I think it's a good mix; a fair and freedom-minded country man. I've read a fair amount of his writings since '03. He concerns himself with the health of this nation, but doesn't philosophise or idealize the resolution; I find him a wisened sort more than an intellectual. He understands the mechanics of law, and the waste that has accumulated in the Capital.

dunkman

Ebizzie wrote:

1. So what you're really saying is that you had no interest in reading up on the guy, you just wanted to stir some shit up on the message board.

2. And incidentally, we and our property are still the freest in the world. European governments are far more involved in the day-to-day lives of Europeans than the American government is in Americans' lives. What's worse is that you've recently added another level of bureaucracy in the form of the EU. As long as the US continues to have the freest market in the world, we will continue to be the freest people in the world.

i read up on the guy, just that he didnt hold my interest as he is as opaque as every other politician that uses the 'freedoms' soundbite to win plaudits... i couldnt give a fuck about stirring up shit on a message board... i have no need to do that!

2. thats ostrich thinking... keep your head in the sand... we have no Patriot Act here, and please explain how your property is the free-est in the world... and bear in mind there is no trespass law in Scotland, we have the modern worlds free-est Rights of Way and Countryside Access laws.... and the EU hasnt been recently added ? its been here a while

dunkman

blackredyellow wrote:

I'm sure he doesn't follow gun laws anyway...

i thought this guy was advocating the stripping away of the gun laws... making it easier for retards to NOT follow them?

:rolleyes:

do guns make you gun advocates feel like real men?

Ebizzie

dunkman wrote:

i read up on the guy, just that he didnt hold my interest as he is as opaque as every other politician that uses the 'freedoms' soundbite to win plaudits... i couldnt give a fuck about stirring up shit on a message board... i have no need to do that!

2. thats ostrich thinking... keep your head in the sand... we have no Patriot Act here, and please explain how your property is the free-est in the world... and bear in mind there is no trespass law in Scotland, we have the modern worlds free-est Rights of Way and Countryside Access laws.... and the EU hasnt been recently added ? its been here a while

If he has opaque viewpoints to you, I'd hate to hear what you have to say about the rest of the idiots in Washington, haha.

As far as the freedoms associated with property, I was using the term property in a very broad sense. Real estate is property, money is property, my body is property, my family is property...any physical object that belongs to me or my family is property.

dunkman

Ebizzie wrote:

If he has opaque viewpoints to you, I'd hate to hear what you have to say about the rest of the idiots in Washington, haha.

As far as the freedoms associated with property, I was using the term property in a very broad sense. Real estate is property, money is property, my body is property, my family is property...any physical object that belongs to me or my family is property.

you said it... idiots in Washington is a good turn of phrase, i'll use it more often

as for property, well then you are certainly no free-er than I...

JamMastaE

dunkman wrote:

i read up on the guy, just that he didnt hold my interest as he is as opaque as every other politician that uses the 'freedoms' soundbite to win plaudits... i couldnt give a fuck about stirring up shit on a message board... i have no need to do that!

2. thats ostrich thinking... keep your head in the sand... we have no Patriot Act here, and please explain how your property is the free-est in the world... and bear in mind there is no trespass law in Scotland, we have the modern worlds free-est Rights of Way and Countryside Access laws.... and the EU hasnt been recently added ? its been here a while

you are not from this country so this post is not for you!!

soulsinging

69charger wrote:

My legislation also repeals the misnamed ban on "semi-automatic" weapons, which bans entire class of firearms for no conceivable reason beside the desire of demagogic politicians to appear tough on crime.

funny how the idiots espousing this sort of reasoning dont apply the same logic to ridiculous mandatory minimums and three strikes rules. let's lock up paul for life becos he got caught with a joint for the third time while he was in college.

is this really what you think is the most important issue on our plate today?

*edit* just found out he apparently is one of the few consistent on that count. im all for a libertarian in office. get him to run!

KidCarnivore

Being libertarian is better than being Libertarian, unless you like this blue guy:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38297000/jpg/_38297733_blue_300_ap.jpg&imgrefurl=http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2297471.stm&h=180&w=315&sz=10&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=8xKj0b2qJwPJaM:&tbnh=67&tbnw=117&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dblue%2Bskin%2Blibertarian%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

JamMastaE

anyone who has the balls to say this out loud should be our President.A patriot and true American.




Abolish the Federal Reserve!


By REP. RON PAUL

Mr. Speaker, I rise to introduce legislation to restore financial stability to America's economy by abolishing the Federal Reserve. I also ask unanimous consent to insert the attached article by Lew Rockwell, president of the Ludwig Von Mises Institute, which explains the benefits of abolishing the Fed and restoring the gold standard, into the record.

Since the creation of the Federal Reserve, middle and working-class Americans have been victimized by a boom-and-bust monetary policy. In addition, most Americans have suffered a steadily eroding purchasing power because of the Federal Reserve's inflationary policies. This represents a real, if hidden, tax imposed on the American people.

From the Great Depression, to the stagflation of the seventies, to the burst of the dotcom bubble last year, every economic downturn suffered by the country over the last 80 years can be traced to Federal Reserve policy. The Fed has followed a consistent policy of flooding the economy with easy money, leading to a misallocation of resources and an artificial "boom" followed by a recession or depression when the Fed-created bubble bursts.

With a stable currency, American exporters will no longer be held hostage to an erratic monetary policy. Stabilizing the currency will also give Americans new incentives to save as they will no longer have to fear inflation eroding their savings. Those members concerned about increasing America's exports or the low rate of savings should be enthusiastic supporters of this legislation.

Though the Federal Reserve policy harms the average American, it benefits those in a position to take advantage of the cycles in monetary policy. The main beneficiaries are those who receive access to artificially inflated money and/or credit before the inflationary effects of the policy impact the entire economy. Federal Reserve policies also benefit big spending politicians who use the inflated currency created by the Fed to hide the true costs of the welfare-warfare state. It is time for Congress to put the interests of the American people ahead of the special interests and their own appetite for big government.

Abolishing the Federal Reserve will allow Congress to reassert its constitutional authority over monetary policy. The United States Constitution grants to Congress the authority to coin money and regulate the value of the currency. The Constitution does not give Congress the authority to delegate control over monetary policy to a central bank. Furthermore, the Constitution certainly does not empower the federal government to erode the American standard of living via an inflationary monetary policy.

In fact, Congress' constitutional mandate regarding monetary policy should only permit currency backed by stable commodities such as silver and gold to be used as legal tender. Therefore, abolishing the Federal Reserve and returning to a constitutional system will enable America to return to the type of monetary system envisioned by our nation's founders: one where the value of money is consistent because it is tied to a commodity such as gold. Such a monetary system is the basis of a true free-market economy.

In conclusion, Mr. Speaker, I urge my colleagues to stand up for working Americans by putting an end to the manipulation of the money supply which erodes Americans' standard of living, enlarges big government, and enriches well-connected elites, by cosponsoring my legislation to abolish the Federal Reserve.


http://www.worldnewsstand.net/today/articles/fedprivatelyowned.htm

ThumbingMyWay32

Why do you continue to spam?

dunkman

JamMastaE wrote:

you are not from this country so this post is not for you!!

who the fuck are you telling me what not to post and when to post... i'll post what i like when i like... if you dont like it then fuck off

how ironic is it that an american is chastising an outsider, a foreigner, for having an interest in american politics and affairs.... isnt that what america does best, pokes its nose into other countries political and economical affairs and yet when i do it to you, you get offended and tell me i dont live in your country therefore i have no say... get the fuck out of Iraq then!!! :rolleyes:

DPrival78

JamMastaE wrote:

anyone who has the balls to say this out loud should be our President.A patriot and true American.

Abolish the Federal Reserve!

By REP. RON PAUL

ron paul better be careful with this.. kennedy opposed the federal reserve and ended up dead.

i agree, ron paul is the best choice for president. he's exactly the kind of reformist we need. but, sadly, with the way things go in this country when it comes to elections, he's got no shot. the media tells us who the candidates are, and paul will get no attention. or, if he does get attention, he'll be portrayed as some sort of loon and be discredited.

JamMastaE

dunkman wrote:

who the fuck are you telling me what not to post and when to post... i'll post what i like when i like... if you dont like it then fuck off

how ironic is it that an american is chastising an outsider, a foreigner, for having an interest in american politics and affairs.... isnt that what america does best, pokes its nose into other countries political and economical affairs and yet when i do it to you, you get offended and tell me i dont live in your country therefore i have no say... get the fuck out of Iraq then!!! :rolleyes:

I'm all for getting out of Iraq,I'm also for not sticking our nose in affairs that don't concern us(our forefathers thought the same way).I'm also for you fucking off if your only gonna talk shit.

dunkman

JamMastaE wrote:

I'm also for you fucking off if your only gonna talk shit.

see my last post... what i want when i want.

freedom of speech

floyd1975

dunkman wrote:

freedom of speech

This is the most overused, bullshit line on this board or anywhere else for that matter.

dunkman

zstillings wrote:

This is the most overused, bullshit line on this board or anywhere else for that matter.

but increduously its what most of you americans seem to whinge on about all the time

ooooo my freedoms are being taken away...

:rolleyes:

floyd1975

dunkman wrote:

but increduously its what most of you americans seem to whinge on about all the time

ooooo my freedoms are being taken away...

:rolleyes:

It's a big difference when it's the government (those to whom the law actually applies) and some guy telling you to shut up on a private message board.

dunkman

zstillings wrote:

It's a big difference when it's the government (those to whom the law actually applies) and some guy telling you to shut up on a private message board.

the guy was telling me "you are not from this country so this post is not for you!!" and i'm saying i can have my comment on it as i wish... its an international message board and i'll say what i want... thats my own personal freedom of speech.

i'm not going to let him tell me when i should and shouldnt be posting on a PJ message board for fuck's sake.