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Can Obama land the knock-out punch?

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  • LikeAnOpeningBandForTheSunLikeAnOpeningBandForTheSun Posts: 6,097
    i have been moved to vote because of this:

    http://www.conceptart.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=491028&stc=1&d=1223945680
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    gonna watch just to see what old gramps can come up with this time.
  • Meine liebeMeine liebe Posts: 203
    McCain is looking like an ass tonight. How many times has he interrupted Obama tonight? Geez......I thought he did well keeping his temper in check in the first two debates but he is getting a lil flustered tonight. He comes off like a pompous ass tonight.
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  • BUFFALOBUFFALO Posts: 760
    After the first quater id say Obama is up by 14 and threating to score again ... :)
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  • nothingheadnothinghead Posts: 270
    Overall, I like this debate much better than the last two. Schieffer is doing a much better job of getting each candidate to the point, using follow-ups, and asking real questions.

    Also, I got Obama leading by a little on my scorecard.
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,493
    Obama is doing a much better job of actually answering the questions, IMHO.

    He pretty much passed on his chance to trash Palin. Probably a good move, but I was chomping at the bit! :p
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  • nothingheadnothinghead Posts: 270
    imalive wrote:
    Obama is doing a much better job of actually answering the questions, IMHO.

    He pretty much passed on his chance to trash Palin. Probably a good move, but I was chomping at the bit! :p

    I think McCain just admitted that. "I really admire his eloquence..."
  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    I feel like I can never tell who's winning and who's losing. Has there been a gamechanger? Is it over? All these arbitrary definitions, and I just can't tell. I decided to give up on it and find out in the morning.
  • nothingheadnothinghead Posts: 270
    digster wrote:
    I feel like I can never tell who's winning and who's losing. Has there been a gamechanger? Is it over? All these arbitrary definitions, and I just can't tell. I decided to give up on it and find out in the morning.

    It's more of a personal thing. I really don't think you can quantify "winning" in any objective sense. It's not like a test of who came up with the most correct answers or who remembered the most facts. Rather, for me, winning is about which candidate most clearly expressed ideas that mirror mine.

    On the other hand, I suppose you could call the "winning" candidate the one who compels the most voters to vote for them. That's a little harder to see from just watching it on television--you need polls and shit that no one ever seems to agree are accurate.

    So, that is to say, it's entirely subjective.
  • Meine liebeMeine liebe Posts: 203
    "maybe you ought to travel down there and you would understand it better"

    Nice touch, jackass. Keep smirking and condescending, you are losing and I think Obama will increase his lead tonight. I honestly LIKE McCain, but tonight he is just really losing me.

    Any undecideds on the boards watching tonight? Leaning one way or another based on tonights debate?
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,493
    digster wrote:
    I decided to give up on it and find out in the morning.
    You can't "find out in the morning." FOX with tell you one thing; MSNBC the other :D.

    I can tell you, though................. it's Obama! :p
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,493
    Meine leibe wrote:
    "maybe you ought to travel down there and you would understand it better"
    The response was pretty good.... "I think I do understand it, John."

    Breaking news: McCain just threw in another "Joe the Plumber" and "my friends" (in the same fucking sentence).
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • Meine liebeMeine liebe Posts: 203
    Joe the Plumber is loving this debate......his vote is wanted.
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  • pateljampateljam Posts: 340
    "Joe you're Rich..."

    What a fuckin tool I didn't think McCain was that god damn desperate
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  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    Joe T. Plumber for 2012.

    Bank on it.
  • lastexit78lastexit78 Posts: 618
    Meine leibe wrote:
    "maybe you ought to travel down there and you would understand it better"

    Nice touch, jackass. Keep smirking and condescending, you are losing and I think Obama will increase his lead tonight. I honestly LIKE McCain, but tonight he is just really losing me.

    Any undecideds on the boards watching tonight? Leaning one way or another based on tonights debate?

    I can kind of relate to McCain tonight. I'm very competitive and when I'm losing I can be an ass. I just can't take it. You wouldn't want to see me on a basketball court if I'm down to the point where I know I can't comeback. I think that's where McCain is tonight. He thinks if he acts like he's dominating maybe others will somehow agree and declare him the winner. Problem is that he's down by 20 with 3 minutes to go. Meanwhile Obama just keeps hitting jumpers in his face. McCain is trying to start a brawl that will get the both of them thrown out but Obama isn't falling for it.
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  • pateljampateljam Posts: 340
    lastexit78 wrote:
    I can kind of relate to McCain tonight. I'm very competitive and when I'm losing I can be an ass. I just can't take it. You wouldn't want to see me on a basketball court if I'm down to the point where I know I can't comeback. I think that's where McCain is tonight. He thinks if he acts like he's dominating maybe others will somehow agree and declare him the winner. Problem is that he's down by 20 with 3 minutes to go. Meanwhile Obama just keeps hitting jumpers in his face. McCain is trying to start a brawl that will get the both of them thrown out but Obama isn't falling for it.
    you have a great point here.... McCain is trying to bait Obama into a drag out fight and Obama is taking the high road...
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  • Meine liebeMeine liebe Posts: 203
    lastexit78 wrote:
    I can kind of relate to McCain tonight. I'm very competitive and when I'm losing I can be an ass. I just can't take it. You wouldn't want to see me on a basketball court if I'm down to the point where I know I can't comeback. I think that's where McCain is tonight. He thinks if he acts like he's dominating maybe others will somehow agree and declare him the winner. Problem is that he's down by 20 with 3 minutes to go. Meanwhile Obama just keeps hitting jumpers in his face. McCain is trying to start a brawl that will get the both of them thrown out but Obama isn't falling for it.

    Good point. I agree. I said the same thing to my wife, minus the basketball analogy....you know, so she would understand.
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  • digsterdigster Posts: 1,293
    It's just talking point #1, then talking point #2, then so on and so forth, and I can't even understand if or how that would resonate with people, so I just gave up on the whole damn thing and continued drinking (alcohol has become an unfortunate constant companion on debate night). So hopefully, someone can tell me how it goes.
  • mca47mca47 Posts: 13,301
    McCain looks so creepy when he's on the side cam and doesn't agree.

    Ultra creepy! It looks like he's going to blow up!
  • pateljampateljam Posts: 340
    What the hell is on McCain's right wrist? Is it a Wonder Woman or Capt America bracelet
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  • Meine liebeMeine liebe Posts: 203
    pateljam wrote:
    What the hell is on McCain's right wrist? Is it a Wonder Woman or Capt America bracelet

    If it was Palin I would say it was a wristband with notes like the quarterbacks wear.....
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  • Dirtie_FrankDirtie_Frank Posts: 1,348
    pateljam wrote:
    What the hell is on McCain's right wrist? Is it a Wonder Woman or Capt America bracelet

    It is probably a Veterans Bracelet.

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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,493
    pateljam wrote:
    What the hell is on McCain's right wrist? Is it a Wonder Woman or Capt America bracelet
    defibrillator! :p
    If I had known then what I know now...

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  • blackredyellowblackredyellow Posts: 5,889
    Meine leibe wrote:
    If it was Palin I would say it was a wristband with notes like the quarterbacks wear.....

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  • PJ_LukinPJ_Lukin Posts: 2,055
    If it wasn't over before tonight, it is now.
    Obama was good, McCain was good too, but not good
    enough to win votes.
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  • DixieNDixieN Posts: 351
    Well said. I think McCain did better than he has, but not good enough. And, imho, all that blinking makes him look like a liar. All of his interrupting makes him look like an ass. You do want a steady hand on that tiller, even though we're not voting for best farmer here. Still, the steady hand is definitely Obama's. He's what I want in a president.
  • CommyCommy Posts: 4,984
    DixieN wrote:
    Well said. I think McCain did better than he has, but not good enough. And, imho, all that blinking makes him look like a liar. All of his interrupting makes him look like an ass. You do want a steady hand on that tiller, even though we're not voting for best farmer here. Still, the steady hand is definitely Obama's. He's what I want in a president.
    yeah what's with the blinking? I blink blink have blink blink something blink in my blink blink eye.
  • Mrs.Vedder78Mrs.Vedder78 Posts: 4,585
    I just want to know why is Senator McCain so angry? :confused:
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  • MattyJoeMattyJoe Posts: 1,424
    Glad to see the discussion is so intelligent and mature tonight. :rolleyes:
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