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Ahnimus

enharmonic wrote:

It also helps if the guy you're executing wasn't on the payroll during the Iran/Iraq war.

See, in America we forget these things as a matter of course, but in the Middle east, the 1980's might just as well have been yesterday. Saddam was a brutal dictator, but he was backed by the USA for a long time. No one will be foregtting that anytime soon in the Middle East. Once he outlived his usefulness, we did him. No one will be forgetting that either in the Middle East.

That, I think is the bigger lesson to foreign countries...the US will take whatever it wants, and use whomever it wants to forward its agenda. If you're not willing to drink the Kool aid, the US will replace you with someone who is...unless you have the bomb. Then, you get "diplomacy"

I agree with that.

Abookamongstthemany

sapperskunk wrote:

Is there some rule with you that says allies can't change? Are we not allowed to flip flop politically in achieving things in our best interest?

How about a rule to not look like jerks by doing something and then crying about how bad it is when others do it....while STILL helping other jerks to do the same bad things.

Ahnimus

Abookamongstthemany wrote:

How about a rule to not look like jerks by doing something and then crying about how bad it is when others do it....while STILL helping other jerks to do the same bad things.

Like, learn proper attribution practices.

tremorvoid

Ahnimus wrote:

It's not foolish. Why would it be foolish? Nothing is going to happen and if it doesn, what is the difference if I give my name out at the bank or the bar?



I'm not interesting in having a piece of paper to wave around claiming I know everything. That's just adding to your arrogance. I know what I've read and what I know, and I know what I don't know, that's true knowledge. Knowledge doesn't come from a piece of fucking paper, only morons claim that.

You couldn't debate me on it if you tried.



Have you seen how often I'm challenged?

It's not nature, you can't learn that from a fucking amoeba, pick up a proper text on the development of human cognition.

fine...give your name out for all i care. i dont give out my personal info to strangers...theres no need to be irresponsible...and yes it CAN come back to haunt you...im protecting my career...and whats to say someone isnt reading every little thing you write and gets a fascination enough to stalk you....no need to give them the info to find you in real life....theres a lot of psychos in this world...and im sure theres a few people lurking that are questionable. id rather be safe than sorry. My friends know who i am...because i trust them...thats all that matters.

i dont claim to know it all either genius. i know a lot about a little. you claim to know a lot about a lot...my opinion is that you are pushing it with what you think you know. and youre right...knowledge doesnt come with a piece of paper. but more times than not...going thru what it takes to obtain that piece of paper is proof that you have indeed aquired some knowledge that is above and beyond what you get from just reading books. graduate education is a 90% out of the "classroom"...you learn by collaborating with experts in the field...you learn by DOING....trying things out to see what works and what doesnt work...you learn by collecting your own ideas and bouncing them off of others who have more experience than you...you learn by APPLYING your knowledge to a problem...gathering data on that problem...analyzing how that data influences the problem...and drawing conclusions as to whether or not that data is supporting or negating the solution to your problem. i still have so much to learn as i am just now beginning my career...but i have a strong base to grow on.

and i will grow on the areas of knowledge that I see fit. that i see relevant. that i see usefull. i have no desire to be an expert on "the development of human cognition". thats psychology...and what i do know about psychology...its mostly BS...lol...no one really knows how the brain works...so why read about someones theories that cannot be proven. psychology is a social science. it is not a "hard science". and fyi...i havent looked at an ameba since high school. i focus on subcellular structures....protein...DNA...RNA...chemicals...and how they create the blueprint for how a cell works. and ultimately...how a whole organism works. MD's focus on treating symptoms and making a diagnosis. PhD's focus on both creating the tools to treat/test the diagnosis and by figuring out what was causing the symptoms in the first place. Understanding how all the components of a cell...the protein interactions that trigger a cascade or pathway of events within the cell...the gene regulation that determines which proteins are available to interact....that is the key to understanding diseases and how to cure them. I would say 99% of all medicines available today are ultimately the result of people researching these types of processes. So dont mock me or my field of research. You dont have a clue what really goes on in a lab or the things that i am capable of. we dont just poke amebas and go "cool man did you see that thing move??"






sorry for hijacking this thread...im done here...ill leave all you to debate the reasons why sadam deserved to live and be given another chance to control his country. This has been enlightening though...a complete waste of my time....but enlightening in respect to the problems of tomorrow due to peoples obscure views of today.

Ahnimus

tremorvoid wrote:

fine...give your name out for all i care. i dont give out my personal info to strangers...theres no need to be irresponsible...and yes it CAN come back to haunt you...im protecting my career...and whats to say someone isnt reading every little thing you write and gets a fascination enough to stalk you....no need to give them the info to find you in real life....theres a lot of psychos in this world...and im sure theres a few people lurking that are questionable. id rather be safe than sorry. My friends know who i am...because i trust them...thats all that matters.

I'd be flattered if someone were to stalk me. As much as I put my name out there hoping, it doesn't happen. :(

i dont claim to know it all either genius. i know a lot about a little. you claim to know a lot about a lot...my opinion is that you are pushing it with what you think you know. and youre right...knowledge doesnt come with a piece of paper. but more times than not...going thru what it takes to obtain that piece of paper is proof that you have indeed aquired some knowledge that is above and beyond what you get from just reading books. graduate education is a 90% out of the "classroom"...you learn by collaborating with experts in the field...you learn by DOING....trying things out to see what works and what doesnt work...you learn by collecting your own ideas and bouncing them off of others who have more experience than you...you learn by APPLYING your knowledge to a problem...gathering data on that problem...analyzing how that data influences the problem...and drawing conclusions as to whether or not that data is supporting or negating the solution to your problem. i still have so much to learn as i am just now beginning my career...but i have a strong base to grow on.

Hey, I do that too, it's really easy with my studies because I can test my theories every time I have a social interaction.

and i will grow on the areas of knowledge that I see fit. that i see relevant. that i see usefull. i have no desire to be an expert on "the development of human cognition". thats psychology...and what i do know about psychology...its mostly BS...lol...no one really knows how the brain works...so why read about someones theories that cannot be proven. psychology is a social science. it is not a "hard science". and fyi...i havent looked at an ameba since high school. i focus on subcellular structures....protein...DNA...RNA...chemicals...and how they create the blueprint for how a cell works. and ultimately...how a whole organism works. MD's focus on treating symptoms and making a diagnosis. PhD's focus on both creating the tools to treat/test the diagnosis and by figuring out what was causing the symptoms in the first place. Understanding how all the components of a cell...the protein interactions that trigger a cascade or pathway of events within the cell...the gene regulation that determines which proteins are available to interact....that is the key to understanding diseases and how to cure them. I would say 99% of all medicines available today are ultimately the result of people researching these types of processes. So dont mock me or my field of research. You dont have a clue what really goes on in a lab or the things that i am capable of. we dont just poke amebas and go "cool man did you see that thing move??"

I completely appreciate the field you are in, I just don't see it as the only road to conceptual thought processes. That reminds me, I ordered a lecture series on RNA from HHMI 4 weeks ago and it isn't here yet. I'm starting to think it's not coming. I've already seen it anyway, but I'd like to watch it on the big screen. I know cognitive sciences are kind of a soft-science but the field is interbreeding. It's been overhauled quite a bit and it's more solid now than ever before. It's pretty hard to disprove some of the leading theories. Anyway, keep up the good work.

Milhouse VanHouten

sapperskunk wrote:

Is there some rule with you that says allies can't change? Are we not allowed to flip flop politically in achieving things in our best interest?

Allies can change, obviously, but we can't ignore the fact that Sadaam slaughtered innocent Kurds and Iraqis for a long time. In the beginning, he did it, and we didn't mind. When it became politically advantageous to us, we decided that it was wrong.