I don't support a war, but as member of NATO we have to participate in NATO mission, that I do understand.
we do not have to be in afghanistan ... we have that option ... there are like 26 countries in NATO and they aren't all in there ... secondly, we were traditionally a peacekeeping nation ... we have made a significant move towards an american foreign policy with harper ... also unexpectantly calling a vote to extend a mission that was not due to expire for over a year and saying he would extend it regardless of the vote are the actions of a pro-war leader ...
and lastly, harper's unconditional support of israel also puts him in the group of "pro-war" ...
He's doing the right thing. The previous government had no principles and ruled by polls. With Harper you know what you're gonna get. You may disagree with the stances he takes on some issues but at least he has principles and has done what he said he would do.
it sounds like an arrogant leader who thinks he has a monopoly on "principles" and is "the decider"... it is arrogance like this and the blinder approach to policy that has fucked your friendly neighbor to the south for the last 6 years
the whole "daddy knows best, now shut the fuck up" approach really doesnt work, and is quite dangerous
it sounds like an arrogant leader who thinks he has a monopoly on "principles" and is "the decider"... it is arrogance like this and the blinder approach to policy that has fucked your friendly neighbor to the south for the last 6 years
the whole "daddy knows best, now shut the fuck up" approach really doesnt work, and is quite dangerous
So are you saying Clinton had no principles as a leader.
If a leader has no principles and rules by opinion poll that is mob rules. I din't elect a monkey so I don't expect monkey like work.
Right now Canada's leader's stance is exactly lock-step with that of the UN, but that doesn't please some people.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
No, I believe in domocracy, not mob rules. Harper was democratically elected to lead the country. I do not expect any politician to vote agianst their own conscience. If Canada had wanted leadership by opinion poll they would have voted for Martin. But Canada wanted leadershio, hence more than 50% of the votes went to parties with leaders who will lead. Canada spoke, they want leadership.
yeah, but as General Dallaire said, Canadian govt. is now lacking leadership... you might disagree with some of what he say (i do), but this one is pretty accurate, the lack of leadership shown on this crisis by the Canadian govt. is pretty obvious. Harper is fast to change from pro-israel to pro-G8 to pro-UN resolution without ever applying a canadian view to the conflict and without ever explaining the roots and reasons of his positions, he's a sheep.
Free translation by me, of Roméo Dallaire's words:
"There's no way to resolve these conflicts with war, you need good peace "Man of State" (homme d'état) leading the way for peace, but i have to say they've been hard to find, lately"
"L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
yeah, but as General Dallaire said, Canadian govt. is now lacking leadership... you might disagree with some of what he say (i do), but this one is pretty accurate, the lack of leadership shown on this crisis by the Canadian govt. is pretty obvious. Harper is fast to change from pro-israel to pro-G8 to pro-UN resolution without ever applying a canadian view to the conflict and without ever explaining the roots and reasons of his positions, he's a sheep.
Free translation by me, of Roméo Dallaire's words:
"There's no way to resolve these conflicts with war, you need good peace "Man of State" (homme d'état) leading the way for peace, but i have to say they've been hard to find, lately"
I agree with you to a certain extent. It would be nice if Harper could explain his evolving stance on the middle east. But I think he's in the right place now. But that doesnt seem to please some people.
Harper makes the same continual PR type mistake where he doesn't show his work. It comes off as a combination of aloof, arrogant and indecisive.
Quoting Dallaire is playing dirty pool. I have so much repsect for that man. I can only wish him some peace and happiness for the rest of his days. I think he's truly seen the devil in action and I think he wishes he still had the strength to take the bull by the horns. I think he should be one of Canada's most highly decorated heroes ever.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
I agree with you to a certain extent. It would be nice if Harper could explain his evolving stance on the middle east. But I think he's in the right place now. But that doesnt seem to please some people.
Harper makes the same continual PR type mistake where he doesn't show his work. It comes off as a combination of aloof, arrogant and indecisive.
Quoting Dallaire is playing dirty pool. I have so much repsect for that man. I can only wish him some peace and happiness for the rest of his days. I think he's truly seen the devil in action and I think he wishes he still had the strength to take the bull by the horns. I think he should be one of Canada's most highly decorated heroes ever.
So far i agree more with the Arab league, Lebanese govt. and French govt. than with my own country govt., Harper will just follow the rest, like a novice, but i can't hold this pro-UN stance against him, it's a step forward at least...
"L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
So far i agree more with the Arab league, Lebanese govt. and French govt. than with my own country govt.
As far as I know France is also fully in lock-step with the UN.
How did the pro-Hezzballa signs go over in Montreal during the weekend? Hopefully the sis not garner much support. Hopefully the Lebanese people and country did.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
As far as I know France is also fully in lock-step with the UN.
How did the pro-Hezzballa signs go over in Montreal during the weekend? Hopefully the sis not garner much support. Hopefully the Lebanese people and country did.
You can't held everyone responsible for dozens of flags in a 15,000 peoples protest, it's insane, medias attacks on Duceppe or the separatist and linking everyone who attend with a terrorist support rally is pure insanity and stupidity, but i'm not surprised at all. There were Jews leader leading the way of the rally, but even them, are depicted as evil by those who speak against this rally, so go figure, i'm just speechless.
For every Hezbollah flags, there were 200 Lebanon flag, 25 Quebec flag and 10 canadian flag, so go figure why those reporters, editorialist and columnist are all focusing on the small minority who did actually support Hezbollah, they were not welcome there, and were invite to get those support signs down, but you can't control 15,000 humans words and actions all at once (plus don't forget emotions, true one, peoples there were also evacuees etc.), anyway, too late for that, public opinion is already forging, and some just like to picture this conflict into a Quebec vs. Canada thing. Why never a Ontario vs. Canada thing? It would be a good change and would be nice to stop reading stuffs demonizing Quebec in the anglos (including MTL anglos) medias. It's not needed...
"L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Oh about France, they're leading the way in the UN, UN stance right now is mostly because of the French, and the way it evolve in the UN is also thank to the French, Russians and the whole Arab league... which is different from Canada, saying they approve whatever they want, without ever taking a step to resolve the crisis (just following), which is why i say i agree more with those govt. than with my country's govt.... i just hope the UN security concil won't fail AGAIN... but if Harper keep following the UN stance, i won't hold it against him, unless the UN fail and he support the failure, hehe (high possibility)...
"L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
changing to a UN stance is safe ... because the US controls the UN ... everything will get watered down ... so, as long as he continues to support whatever the US supports - he'll be moving along just fine ...
changing to a UN stance is safe ... because the US controls the UN ... everything will get watered down ... so, as long as he continues to support whatever the US supports - he'll be moving along just fine ...
United Nations have something to prove...
"L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
we do not have to be in afghanistan ... we have that option ... there are like 26 countries in NATO and they aren't all in there ... secondly, we were traditionally a peacekeeping nation ... we have made a significant move towards an american foreign policy with harper ... also unexpectantly calling a vote to extend a mission that was not due to expire for over a year and saying he would extend it regardless of the vote are the actions of a pro-war leader ...
and lastly, harper's unconditional support of israel also puts him in the group of "pro-war" ...
Who he is he going to support Hezbollah, I think not. The UN and Lebanon had six years to disarm Hezbollah, are they disarmed? I guess Isreal has to do the job itself. The UN has done a wonderful job keeping the peace throughout the world, since the creation of the UN peace has broken out throughout the world, lol. With a track record like the UN has, Canada shouldn't so readily admit that they were part of those so called peace keeping missions.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
You can't held everyone responsible for dozens of flags in a 15,000 peoples protest, it's insane, medias attacks on Duceppe or the separatist and linking everyone who attend with a terrorist support rally is pure insanity and stupidity, but i'm not surprised at all. There were Jews leader leading the way of the rally, but even them, are depicted as evil by those who speak against this rally, so go figure, i'm just speechless.
For every Hezbollah flags, there were 200 Lebanon flag, 25 Quebec flag and 10 canadian flag, so go figure why those reporters, editorialist and columnist are all focusing on the small minority who did actually support Hezbollah, they were not welcome there, and were invite to get those support signs down, but you can't control 15,000 humans words and actions all at once (plus don't forget emotions, true one, peoples there were also evacuees etc.), anyway, too late for that, public opinion is already forging, and some just like to picture this conflict into a Quebec vs. Canada thing. Why never a Ontario vs. Canada thing? It would be a good change and would be nice to stop reading stuffs demonizing Quebec in the anglos (including MTL anglos) medias. It's not needed...
This is why I wanted a real Quebecors take on it.
The media is so slanted. Right now CBC and NewsWorld is being raked over the coals out here for how they edited a piece on Harper with demonstrations. The CBC took a quote from a Harper news conference and played it like it was a response to a demonstration. I swear when yo get a job at the CBC you get a tatto that says blind Liberal follower.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
changing to a UN stance is safe ... because the US controls the UN ... everything will get watered down ... so, as long as he continues to support whatever the US supports - he'll be moving along just fine ...
So now the only stance that Canada can take that you won't group in as being pro-American is a stance directly opposite that of the UN. Unreal. I'm sorry but this is so mis-guided by an irrational hatred of Harper I don't know where to begin.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
Who he is he going to support Hezbollah, I think not. The UN and Lebanon had six years to disarm Hezbollah, are they disarmed? I guess Isreal has to do the job itself. The UN has done a wonderful job keeping the peace throughout the world, since the creation of the UN peace has broken out throughout the world, lol. With a track record like the UN has, Canada shouldn't so readily admit that they were part of those so called peace keeping missions.
United nations problems are coming out of the UN security council, not peacekeeping forces.
You should also get your facts straight, Lebanon was suppose to get Hezbollah disarm with the help of international community, didn't happen, now it's time to do it...
"L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
The media is so slanted. Right now CBC and NewsWorld is being raked over the coals out here for how they edited a piece on Harper with demonstrations. The CBC took a quote from a Harper news conference and played it like it was a response to a demonstration. I swear when yo get a job at the CBC you get a tatto that says blind Liberal follower.
Well, i don't know enough about the CBC, when i watch it's not as bad as CNN for example, but still i'll leave that to those who watch CBC on a regular basis (although i got a huge laughing out loud thing, when i saw that blonde reporters in the beginning of the conflict, taking a dramatic stand and tone behind Israeli's tanks firing into Lebanon, and just blablablablaing about the war, it was funny to watch).
Still, my point is that Quebec stand is not different from Ontario stand, but only Quebec is painted as "not sharing" canadians opinions, and being pro-terrorist, in a major media like the National Post, it's unacceptable, but i've read the same kind of anti-Quebec (pro-terrorist) stand in the Gazette, in the Ottawa Citizen, in the Star. Just put yourself in a Quebecers mind for a moment, and try to imagine a french Quebecer saying "i feel so canadian" after reading those articles... as i said it's not needed, the opposite is needed, unity.
"L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Who he is he going to support Hezbollah, I think not. The UN and Lebanon had six years to disarm Hezbollah, are they disarmed? I guess Isreal has to do the job itself. The UN has done a wonderful job keeping the peace throughout the world, since the creation of the UN peace has broken out throughout the world, lol. With a track record like the UN has, Canada shouldn't so readily admit that they were part of those so called peace keeping missions.
he can support an agenda that does not condone the killing of innocent people ...
the UN is a failure because of its member states especially the key states ... each act purely on their own interests ... but it doesn't belie the fact it is a needed entity ... as canadians - we can choose our own paths and what we want to stand for - we can do it by our actions and by the way we vote ...
and those actions have changed - for some the better and for some the worse ...
So now the only stance that Canada can take that you won't group in as being pro-American is a stance directly opposite that of the UN. Unreal. I'm sorry but this is so mis-guided by an irrational hatred of Harper I don't know where to begin.
well ... you will project your own perceptions of me so i really can't help you there ...
but the reality is that the UN has failed miserably here ... the killing has gone on for a month - the current makeup of the security council is flawed because the single biggest defiant country in the UN runs the whole thing ...
so ... adopting a UN stance really does nothing for me ... i do not want another person to die ...
and just as you consider my hatred irrational i see your continued support the same ... i've asked before - how has harper's decision been not in step with the american stance?? ... they are side by each in every instance so, i know its easy for you to claim a blind hatred but the facts have always been in front of us ...
well ... you will project your own perceptions of me so i really can't help you there ...
but the reality is that the UN has failed miserably here ... the killing has gone on for a month - the current makeup of the security council is flawed because the single biggest defiant country in the UN runs the whole thing ...
so ... adopting a UN stance really does nothing for me ... i do not want another person to die ...
and just as you consider my hatred irrational i see your continued support the same ... i've asked before - how has harper's decision been not in step with the american stance?? ... they are side by each in every instance so, i know its easy for you to claim a blind hatred but the facts have always been in front of us ...
Sorry if I've projected perceptions on to you. But what stance do you want Canada to take? You didn't want a pro-Israel stance (I can understand that), you don't want a pro-UN stance, you don't want any stance that coincides with the American stance, so what stance do you want Canada to take. The stance of not wanting another [person to die is no stance. How do you propose this be done?
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
Sorry if I've projected perceptions on to you. But what stance do you want Canada to take? You didn't want a pro-Israel stance (I can understand that), you don't want a pro-UN stance, you don't want any stance that coincides with the American stance, so what stance do you want Canada to take. The stance of not wanting another [person to die is no stance. How do you propose this be done?
immediate ceasefire period. if i was leader i would call for the immediate ending of all offensive missions by hezbollah and israel ... the opening up of ports and roads so aid can get to the people who are suffering ... that is what i would be pushing ...
i would send in members of the arab league, security council and israel to negotiate a plan moving forward ... but first and foremost - there must be a ceasefire ... israel's goal of seeking and destroying hezbollah is not working nor will it ever ...
immediate ceasefire period. if i was leader i would call for the immediate ending of all offensive missions by hezbollah and israel ... the opening up of ports and roads so aid can get to the people who are suffering ... that is what i would be pushing ...
i would send in members of the arab league, security council and israel to negotiate a plan moving forward ... but first and foremost - there must be a ceasefire ... israel's goal of seeking and destroying hezbollah is not working nor will it ever ...
So your plan is to do nothing about Hezbollah. France loves you.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
So your plan is to do nothing about Hezbollah. France loves you.
that's not true... France (Lebanese) solution will do better to disarm Hezbollah than anything Israel tried so far, remember they've occupied this country for a long time and Hezbollah still exist, also must understand that civil war is a menace in Lebanon, they must pay attention to this and act accordingly.
At least the Lebanese govt. is still standing strong and the civil war is so far not in the picture, kudos to the Lebanese govt., UN must listen to what Lebanon have to say, and to what Lebanon want, not only what Israel want.
Killing Lebanese, destroying Lebanon and refusing to secure humanitarian help will just give wings to the Hezbollah in the whole Arab world, that's not a secret...
"L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
that's not true... France solution will do better to disarm Hezbollah than anything Israel tried so far, remember they've occupied this country for a long time and Hezbollah still exist, also must understand that civil war is a menace in Lebanon, they must pay attention to this and act accordingly.
At least the Lebanese govt. is still standing strong and the civil war is so far not in the picture, kudos to the Lebanese govt., UN must listen to what Lebanon have to say, and to what Lebanon want, not only what Israel want.
Killing Lebanese, destroying Lebanon and refusing to secure humanitarian help will just give wings to the Hezbollah in the whole Arab world, that's not a secret...
France just kind of changed it's mind. Maybe for the better, maybe for the worse. They no longer want any international presence in Lebanon to help deal with Hezbollah.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
replace quebec with alberta and that's pretty sums it up for me ...
And this sort of stuff doesn't do much for people's attitudes about Ontario, here in the West. I can see where Quebec is coming from much of the time, actually. Condescending, we-know-best, everyone-else-is-backward attitudes from people in Ontario are what fuel people's views out here.
tolerance is such a Canadian myth.
France just kind of changed it's mind. Maybe for the better, maybe for the worse. They no longer want any international presence in Lebanon to help deal with Hezbollah.
We'll see the final draft of the resolution. I think they want to participate in the Lebanese plan, which involve Lebanese troops supported by the international community, including withdraw of Israeli troops of Lebanon. Which can be twisted as pro-terrorist anti-israel pro-hezbollah, but i don't buy into that, solution for the region (including Palestine) is what they seek, just the means to achieve this seem to be the cause of disagreement.
Israel govt. and their supporters support the heavy military solution (which cause all the damages we've seen so far, in Israel and Lebanon).
Lebanese govt. and their supporters prone to disarm of Hezbollah without fighting them, by giving them no reason to fight or exist anymore. (which is seen as pro-terrorist, pro Hezbollah, anti Israel, but i don't give a shit about those labels, already been painted as a terrorist by the Post, i guess i'm monitered by the SCRS as of now, hehe)
"L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
And this sort of stuff doesn't do much for people's attitudes about Ontario, here in the West. I can see where Quebec is coming from much of the time, actually. Condescending, we-know-best, everyone-else-is-backward attitudes from people in Ontario are what fuel people's views out here.
tolerance is such a Canadian myth.
I can understand polaris' frustration if it is fueled by environmental concerns. But provinces only do what the federal government allows.
“One good thing about music,
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
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we do not have to be in afghanistan ... we have that option ... there are like 26 countries in NATO and they aren't all in there ... secondly, we were traditionally a peacekeeping nation ... we have made a significant move towards an american foreign policy with harper ... also unexpectantly calling a vote to extend a mission that was not due to expire for over a year and saying he would extend it regardless of the vote are the actions of a pro-war leader ...
and lastly, harper's unconditional support of israel also puts him in the group of "pro-war" ...
this sounds mighty familiar...
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
it sounds like an arrogant leader who thinks he has a monopoly on "principles" and is "the decider"... it is arrogance like this and the blinder approach to policy that has fucked your friendly neighbor to the south for the last 6 years
the whole "daddy knows best, now shut the fuck up" approach really doesnt work, and is quite dangerous
If a leader has no principles and rules by opinion poll that is mob rules. I din't elect a monkey so I don't expect monkey like work.
Right now Canada's leader's stance is exactly lock-step with that of the UN, but that doesn't please some people.
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
yeah, but as General Dallaire said, Canadian govt. is now lacking leadership... you might disagree with some of what he say (i do), but this one is pretty accurate, the lack of leadership shown on this crisis by the Canadian govt. is pretty obvious. Harper is fast to change from pro-israel to pro-G8 to pro-UN resolution without ever applying a canadian view to the conflict and without ever explaining the roots and reasons of his positions, he's a sheep.
Free translation by me, of Roméo Dallaire's words:
"There's no way to resolve these conflicts with war, you need good peace "Man of State" (homme d'état) leading the way for peace, but i have to say they've been hard to find, lately"
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Harper makes the same continual PR type mistake where he doesn't show his work. It comes off as a combination of aloof, arrogant and indecisive.
Quoting Dallaire is playing dirty pool. I have so much repsect for that man. I can only wish him some peace and happiness for the rest of his days. I think he's truly seen the devil in action and I think he wishes he still had the strength to take the bull by the horns. I think he should be one of Canada's most highly decorated heroes ever.
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
So far i agree more with the Arab league, Lebanese govt. and French govt. than with my own country govt., Harper will just follow the rest, like a novice, but i can't hold this pro-UN stance against him, it's a step forward at least...
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
How did the pro-Hezzballa signs go over in Montreal during the weekend? Hopefully the sis not garner much support. Hopefully the Lebanese people and country did.
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
You can't held everyone responsible for dozens of flags in a 15,000 peoples protest, it's insane, medias attacks on Duceppe or the separatist and linking everyone who attend with a terrorist support rally is pure insanity and stupidity, but i'm not surprised at all. There were Jews leader leading the way of the rally, but even them, are depicted as evil by those who speak against this rally, so go figure, i'm just speechless.
For every Hezbollah flags, there were 200 Lebanon flag, 25 Quebec flag and 10 canadian flag, so go figure why those reporters, editorialist and columnist are all focusing on the small minority who did actually support Hezbollah, they were not welcome there, and were invite to get those support signs down, but you can't control 15,000 humans words and actions all at once (plus don't forget emotions, true one, peoples there were also evacuees etc.), anyway, too late for that, public opinion is already forging, and some just like to picture this conflict into a Quebec vs. Canada thing. Why never a Ontario vs. Canada thing? It would be a good change and would be nice to stop reading stuffs demonizing Quebec in the anglos (including MTL anglos) medias. It's not needed...
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
United Nations have something to prove...
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Who he is he going to support Hezbollah, I think not. The UN and Lebanon had six years to disarm Hezbollah, are they disarmed? I guess Isreal has to do the job itself. The UN has done a wonderful job keeping the peace throughout the world, since the creation of the UN peace has broken out throughout the world, lol. With a track record like the UN has, Canada shouldn't so readily admit that they were part of those so called peace keeping missions.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
The media is so slanted. Right now CBC and NewsWorld is being raked over the coals out here for how they edited a piece on Harper with demonstrations. The CBC took a quote from a Harper news conference and played it like it was a response to a demonstration. I swear when yo get a job at the CBC you get a tatto that says blind Liberal follower.
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
United nations problems are coming out of the UN security council, not peacekeeping forces.
You should also get your facts straight, Lebanon was suppose to get Hezbollah disarm with the help of international community, didn't happen, now it's time to do it...
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Well, i don't know enough about the CBC, when i watch it's not as bad as CNN for example, but still i'll leave that to those who watch CBC on a regular basis (although i got a huge laughing out loud thing, when i saw that blonde reporters in the beginning of the conflict, taking a dramatic stand and tone behind Israeli's tanks firing into Lebanon, and just blablablablaing about the war, it was funny to watch).
Still, my point is that Quebec stand is not different from Ontario stand, but only Quebec is painted as "not sharing" canadians opinions, and being pro-terrorist, in a major media like the National Post, it's unacceptable, but i've read the same kind of anti-Quebec (pro-terrorist) stand in the Gazette, in the Ottawa Citizen, in the Star. Just put yourself in a Quebecers mind for a moment, and try to imagine a french Quebecer saying "i feel so canadian" after reading those articles... as i said it's not needed, the opposite is needed, unity.
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
he can support an agenda that does not condone the killing of innocent people ...
the UN is a failure because of its member states especially the key states ... each act purely on their own interests ... but it doesn't belie the fact it is a needed entity ... as canadians - we can choose our own paths and what we want to stand for - we can do it by our actions and by the way we vote ...
and those actions have changed - for some the better and for some the worse ...
well ... you will project your own perceptions of me so i really can't help you there ...
but the reality is that the UN has failed miserably here ... the killing has gone on for a month - the current makeup of the security council is flawed because the single biggest defiant country in the UN runs the whole thing ...
so ... adopting a UN stance really does nothing for me ... i do not want another person to die ...
and just as you consider my hatred irrational i see your continued support the same ... i've asked before - how has harper's decision been not in step with the american stance?? ... they are side by each in every instance so, i know its easy for you to claim a blind hatred but the facts have always been in front of us ...
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
immediate ceasefire period. if i was leader i would call for the immediate ending of all offensive missions by hezbollah and israel ... the opening up of ports and roads so aid can get to the people who are suffering ... that is what i would be pushing ...
i would send in members of the arab league, security council and israel to negotiate a plan moving forward ... but first and foremost - there must be a ceasefire ... israel's goal of seeking and destroying hezbollah is not working nor will it ever ...
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
well ... my plan would be similar to the one proposed by lebanon which calls for a disbanding of hezbollah and integration into the lebanese army ...
But full props for putting a proposal together, even if I don't agree with it in detail.
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
that's not true... France (Lebanese) solution will do better to disarm Hezbollah than anything Israel tried so far, remember they've occupied this country for a long time and Hezbollah still exist, also must understand that civil war is a menace in Lebanon, they must pay attention to this and act accordingly.
At least the Lebanese govt. is still standing strong and the civil war is so far not in the picture, kudos to the Lebanese govt., UN must listen to what Lebanon have to say, and to what Lebanon want, not only what Israel want.
Killing Lebanese, destroying Lebanon and refusing to secure humanitarian help will just give wings to the Hezbollah in the whole Arab world, that's not a secret...
-Jean-Jacques Rousseau
when it hits you, you feel to pain.
So brutalize me with music.”
~ Bob Marley
And this sort of stuff doesn't do much for people's attitudes about Ontario, here in the West. I can see where Quebec is coming from much of the time, actually. Condescending, we-know-best, everyone-else-is-backward attitudes from people in Ontario are what fuel people's views out here.
tolerance is such a Canadian myth.
We'll see the final draft of the resolution. I think they want to participate in the Lebanese plan, which involve Lebanese troops supported by the international community, including withdraw of Israeli troops of Lebanon. Which can be twisted as pro-terrorist anti-israel pro-hezbollah, but i don't buy into that, solution for the region (including Palestine) is what they seek, just the means to achieve this seem to be the cause of disagreement.
Israel govt. and their supporters support the heavy military solution (which cause all the damages we've seen so far, in Israel and Lebanon).
Lebanese govt. and their supporters prone to disarm of Hezbollah without fighting them, by giving them no reason to fight or exist anymore. (which is seen as pro-terrorist, pro Hezbollah, anti Israel, but i don't give a shit about those labels, already been painted as a terrorist by the Post, i guess i'm monitered by the SCRS as of now, hehe)
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