He is Andrew Newberg, a physician that teaches & performs research at the University of Pennsylvania Medical School. The video is about mystical experiences (near death experiences, meditation experiences, religious experiences, epilepsy, etc.) their relation with the brain and reality.
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
I watched the first couple of minutes of this and if there were anything more pro-god-belief-creationism, i couldn't have found it mysrlff.
More speculation?
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I watched the first couple of minutes of this and if there were anything more pro-god-belief-creationism, i couldn't have found it mysrlff.
How so? I'm in to about 15 minutes and I have heard nothing about, what, creationism. It's about studying what happens when people have spirtual experiences.
Creationism? Really, gue...not all people who are spiritual subscribe to creationism. There is no mention about any specific religious doctrine at all. You can do better than this.
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
He is Andrew Newberg, a physician that teaches & performs research at the University of Pennsylvania Medical School. The video is about mystical experiences (near death experiences, meditation experiences, religious experiences, epilepsy, etc.) their relation with the brain and reality.
Based upon his neurological research (including new studies with Franciscan nuns, atheists, and evangelicals speaking in tongues), Dr. Newberg correlates a wide range of human beliefs with specific perceptual, social, and biological factors. He argues that some beliefs can enhance our physical and emotional well-being while others can function destructively, not only upon one’s self, but upon society as well. Although our beliefs are rooted in the biology of the brain, Dr. Newberg emphasizes that they are equally shaped by parents, peers, and society. In the end, a better understanding of beliefs can foster a more compassionate perspective on people who hold other beliefs and point the direction towards a more positive life and society.
I mostly agree with this, but as far as a view of reality goes, any matter of faith is potentially destructive. For example, we are discussing moral ethics and homosexuality or abortion comes up. People attach their faith to these issues instead of looking at it objectively. That is when a seemingly benneficial faith becomes destructive.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I mostly agree with this, but as far as a view of reality goes, any matter of faith is potentially destructive. For example, we are discussing moral ethics and homosexuality or abortion comes up. People attach their faith to these issues instead of looking at it objectively. That is when a seemingly benneficial faith becomes destructive.
I agree with your last 2 statements, but I disagree that spirituality in general is destructive. I would argue that it can be very positive, at least for the individual. Fundamentalism can be dangerous, however. I still feel that if there were no religions, the ignorant would find something else to do ignorantly.
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
I agree with your last 2 statements, but I disagree that spirituality in general is destructive. I would argue that it can be very positive, at least for the individual. Fundamentalism can be dangerous, however. I still feel that if there were no religions, the ignorant would find something else to do ignorantly.
I agree and I think a lot of atheists would as well. But I'm more like Dawkin, I'd rather be rid of it. There are two methods of fighting religious dogma, one is to subtly try to nudge people, the other is to just slam facts in their face. While, getting all up in someone's face usually causes a polarization, I'm just not that good at subtle.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
que, I'd like you to summarize what exactly was discussed in the 2 minutes you watched.
Nah...
i went to 2:36 this time. And even though I caught this time that he didn't mean to discredit God, the fact that a couple of bozo's would have an interview like this with cross-section x-rays of brain matter as the backdrop sort of clued me into what they were about.
The book about brain science and the biology of belief. I'm wondering how you got creationism from that! It's about spirituality being linked to the biology of the brain.
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
I agree and I think a lot of atheists would as well. But I'm more like Dawkin, I'd rather be rid of it. There are two methods of fighting religious dogma, one is to subtly try to nudge people, the other is to just slam facts in their face. While, getting all up in someone's face usually causes a polarization, I'm just not that good at subtle.
So, we're all about the movement. The strange thing to me is that the movement has always been here. The media is the culprit.
I agree and I think a lot of atheists would as well. But I'm more like Dawkin, I'd rather be rid of it. There are two methods of fighting religious dogma, one is to subtly try to nudge people, the other is to just slam facts in their face. While, getting all up in someone's face usually causes a polarization, I'm just not that good at subtle.
Not good at subtle? You? No! ha ha
I agree that Dawkin is very respectful in his approach. I do feel it's important to use some tact when trying to present a new way to look at things. People automatically close themselves off when they feel they are being 'preached' to or when they feel someone is being condescending. What's the saying.........you catch more flies with honey?
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
I agree that Dawkin is very respectful in his approach. I do feel it's important to use some tack when trying to present a new way to look at things. People automatically close themselves off when they feel they are being 'preached' to or when they feel someone is being condescending. What's the saying.........you catch more flies with honey?
Flies are attracted to garbage and stuff, I don't think flies are attracted to honey are they? I don't think bees are either, they are attracted to pollen. But either way, why would you want to catch flies or bees?
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
The book about brain science and the biology of belief. I'm wondering how you got creationism from that! It's about spirituality being linked to the biology of the brain.
Baraka.
As a human male who has seen...how pretty you are...what does this have to do with anything?
I mean. I've been a hobo, and I can tell you coming in from the cold is a whole new world to me, sometimes. It hasn't been long and already I can hardly imagine what it would be like to be sleeping in that patch of woods by the cemetary where I spent more than a year.
Biology vs. creationism, or spiritualism... It's bunk. Maybe it's necessary in the long run, but when it comes down to it, I fart when I want to.
Flies are attracted to garbage and stuff, I don't think flies are attracted to honey are they? I don't think bees are either, they are attracted to pollen. But either way, why would you want to catch flies or bees?
lol! It's an expression, Ahnimus and I might have gotten it wrong anyway. Essentially, if you want someone to open their mind and consider your viewpoints, you, in turn, need to use some tact when presenting your argument. People are more likely to open their minds and attempt to absorb the information when the information is presented thoughtfully.
OK, I looked it up. Here's the saying: You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
As a human male who has seen...how pretty you are...what does this have to do with anything?
I mean. I've been a hobo, and I can tell you coming in from the cold is a whole new world to me, sometimes. It hasn't been long and already I can hardly imagine what it would be like to be sleeping in that patch of woods by the cemetary where I spent more than a year.
Biology vs. creationism, or spiritualism... It's bunk. Maybe it's necessary in the long run, but when it comes down to it, I fart when I want to.
Please don't fart in anyone's face, especially a childs. The hydogen sulfide stinks, and the methane causes a displacement of oxygen which could lead to apshyxiation and theoretically death in someone like an infant.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
lol! It's an expression, Ahnimus and I might have gotten it wrong anyway. Essentially, if you want someone to open their mind and consider your viewpoints, you, in turn, need to use some tact when presenting your argument. People are more likely to open their minds and attempt to absorb the information when the information is presented thoughtfully.
OK, I looked it up. Here's the saying: You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar
I'm still not keen on catching flies. :(
I'd rather catch a butterfly.
Consider that analogous for humans. How to I catch butterflies?
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Please don't fart in anyone's face, especially a childs. The hydogen sulfide stinks, and the methane causes a displacement of oxygen which could lead to apshyxiation and theoretically death in someone like an infant.
You two are hilarious.
The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance,
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
Please don't fart in anyone's face, especially a childs. The hydogen sulfide stinks, and the methane causes a displacement of oxygen which could lead to apshyxiation and theoretically death in someone like an infant.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
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No means to confuse.
I watched the first couple of minutes of this and if there were anything more pro-god-belief-creationism, i couldn't have found it mysrlff.
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He is Andrew Newberg, a physician that teaches & performs research at the University of Pennsylvania Medical School. The video is about mystical experiences (near death experiences, meditation experiences, religious experiences, epilepsy, etc.) their relation with the brain and reality.
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
More speculation?
How so? I'm in to about 15 minutes and I have heard nothing about, what, creationism. It's about studying what happens when people have spirtual experiences.
Creationism? Really, gue...not all people who are spiritual subscribe to creationism. There is no mention about any specific religious doctrine at all. You can do better than this.
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
I mostly agree with this, but as far as a view of reality goes, any matter of faith is potentially destructive. For example, we are discussing moral ethics and homosexuality or abortion comes up. People attach their faith to these issues instead of looking at it objectively. That is when a seemingly benneficial faith becomes destructive.
On the video itself?
I watched 2 minutes. I gathered from that, that it's intention was to be the dead-end of all those who "believed".
It was made to look "scientific", oh my, so the devout have all the more to fight for.
fucking pathetic.
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que, I'd like you to summarize what exactly was discussed in the 2 minutes you watched.
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
Lemme watch it again, to be sure.
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I agree with your last 2 statements, but I disagree that spirituality in general is destructive. I would argue that it can be very positive, at least for the individual. Fundamentalism can be dangerous, however. I still feel that if there were no religions, the ignorant would find something else to do ignorantly.
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
I agree and I think a lot of atheists would as well. But I'm more like Dawkin, I'd rather be rid of it. There are two methods of fighting religious dogma, one is to subtly try to nudge people, the other is to just slam facts in their face. While, getting all up in someone's face usually causes a polarization, I'm just not that good at subtle.
i went to 2:36 this time. And even though I caught this time that he didn't mean to discredit God, the fact that a couple of bozo's would have an interview like this with cross-section x-rays of brain matter as the backdrop sort of clued me into what they were about.
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Is this what scared you?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/034544034X/ref=sib_dp_pt/103-3109522-7655050#reader-link
The book about brain science and the biology of belief. I'm wondering how you got creationism from that! It's about spirituality being linked to the biology of the brain.
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
So, we're all about the movement. The strange thing to me is that the movement has always been here. The media is the culprit.
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Not good at subtle? You? No! ha ha
I agree that Dawkin is very respectful in his approach. I do feel it's important to use some tact when trying to present a new way to look at things. People automatically close themselves off when they feel they are being 'preached' to or when they feel someone is being condescending. What's the saying.........you catch more flies with honey?
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
Flies are attracted to garbage and stuff, I don't think flies are attracted to honey are they? I don't think bees are either, they are attracted to pollen. But either way, why would you want to catch flies or bees?
Baraka.
As a human male who has seen...how pretty you are...what does this have to do with anything?
I mean. I've been a hobo, and I can tell you coming in from the cold is a whole new world to me, sometimes. It hasn't been long and already I can hardly imagine what it would be like to be sleeping in that patch of woods by the cemetary where I spent more than a year.
Biology vs. creationism, or spiritualism... It's bunk. Maybe it's necessary in the long run, but when it comes down to it, I fart when I want to.
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lol! It's an expression, Ahnimus and I might have gotten it wrong anyway. Essentially, if you want someone to open their mind and consider your viewpoints, you, in turn, need to use some tact when presenting your argument. People are more likely to open their minds and attempt to absorb the information when the information is presented thoughtfully.
OK, I looked it up. Here's the saying: You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
Please don't fart in anyone's face, especially a childs. The hydogen sulfide stinks, and the methane causes a displacement of oxygen which could lead to apshyxiation and theoretically death in someone like an infant.
I'm still not keen on catching flies. :(
I'd rather catch a butterfly.
Consider that analogous for humans. How to I catch butterflies?
You two are hilarious.
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
You know your shit.
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http://www.yourdailymedia.com/media/1165402319/Infrared_Fart
http://bsi.montana.edu/web/kidsbutterfly/faq/catching
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
Aww, your sweet, I bet you attract a lot of flies
You must be the butterfly.
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I don't mean that in some sort of Zen-Bhuddist crap sort of way, I mean that in a Creationist's way!
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Kat, just kill me for good.
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I think I'll take that as a compliment!
but the illusion of knowledge.
~Daniel Boorstin
Only a life lived for others is worth living.
~Albert Einstein
I'm tripping on LSD.
your post really appeals to my missing front teeth-talking.
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Like vonnegut said.
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