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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    baraka wrote:
    que, I'd like you to summarize what exactly was discussed in the 2 minutes you watched.
    Nah...
    i went to 2:36 this time. And even though I caught this time that he didn't mean to discredit God, the fact that a couple of bozo's would have an interview like this with cross-section x-rays of brain matter as the backdrop sort of clued me into what they were about.
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  • baraka
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    gue_barium wrote:
    Lemme watch it again, to be sure.

    Is this what scared you?

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/034544034X/ref=sib_dp_pt/103-3109522-7655050#reader-link

    The book about brain science and the biology of belief. I'm wondering how you got creationism from that! It's about spirituality being linked to the biology of the brain.
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  • gue_barium
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    Ahnimus wrote:
    I agree and I think a lot of atheists would as well. But I'm more like Dawkin, I'd rather be rid of it. There are two methods of fighting religious dogma, one is to subtly try to nudge people, the other is to just slam facts in their face. While, getting all up in someone's face usually causes a polarization, I'm just not that good at subtle.

    So, we're all about the movement. The strange thing to me is that the movement has always been here. The media is the culprit.
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  • baraka
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    Ahnimus wrote:
    I agree and I think a lot of atheists would as well. But I'm more like Dawkin, I'd rather be rid of it. There are two methods of fighting religious dogma, one is to subtly try to nudge people, the other is to just slam facts in their face. While, getting all up in someone's face usually causes a polarization, I'm just not that good at subtle.

    Not good at subtle? You? No! ha ha ;)

    I agree that Dawkin is very respectful in his approach. I do feel it's important to use some tact when trying to present a new way to look at things. People automatically close themselves off when they feel they are being 'preached' to or when they feel someone is being condescending. What's the saying.........you catch more flies with honey?
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    but the illusion of knowledge.
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    baraka wrote:
    Not good at subtle? You? No! ha ha ;)

    I agree that Dawkin is very respectful in his approach. I do feel it's important to use some tack when trying to present a new way to look at things. People automatically close themselves off when they feel they are being 'preached' to or when they feel someone is being condescending. What's the saying.........you catch more flies with honey?

    Flies are attracted to garbage and stuff, I don't think flies are attracted to honey are they? I don't think bees are either, they are attracted to pollen. But either way, why would you want to catch flies or bees?
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  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    baraka wrote:
    Is this what scared you?

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/034544034X/ref=sib_dp_pt/103-3109522-7655050#reader-link

    The book about brain science and the biology of belief. I'm wondering how you got creationism from that! It's about spirituality being linked to the biology of the brain.

    Baraka.

    As a human male who has seen...how pretty you are...what does this have to do with anything?

    I mean. I've been a hobo, and I can tell you coming in from the cold is a whole new world to me, sometimes. It hasn't been long and already I can hardly imagine what it would be like to be sleeping in that patch of woods by the cemetary where I spent more than a year.

    Biology vs. creationism, or spiritualism... It's bunk. Maybe it's necessary in the long run, but when it comes down to it, I fart when I want to.
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  • baraka
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    Ahnimus wrote:
    Flies are attracted to garbage and stuff, I don't think flies are attracted to honey are they? I don't think bees are either, they are attracted to pollen. But either way, why would you want to catch flies or bees?

    lol! It's an expression, Ahnimus and I might have gotten it wrong anyway. Essentially, if you want someone to open their mind and consider your viewpoints, you, in turn, need to use some tact when presenting your argument. People are more likely to open their minds and attempt to absorb the information when the information is presented thoughtfully.

    OK, I looked it up. Here's the saying: You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar
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    but the illusion of knowledge.
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    gue_barium wrote:
    Baraka.

    As a human male who has seen...how pretty you are...what does this have to do with anything?

    I mean. I've been a hobo, and I can tell you coming in from the cold is a whole new world to me, sometimes. It hasn't been long and already I can hardly imagine what it would be like to be sleeping in that patch of woods by the cemetary where I spent more than a year.

    Biology vs. creationism, or spiritualism... It's bunk. Maybe it's necessary in the long run, but when it comes down to it, I fart when I want to.

    Please don't fart in anyone's face, especially a childs. The hydogen sulfide stinks, and the methane causes a displacement of oxygen which could lead to apshyxiation and theoretically death in someone like an infant.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    baraka wrote:
    lol! It's an expression, Ahnimus and I might have gotten it wrong anyway. Essentially, if you want someone to open their mind and consider your viewpoints, you, in turn, need to use some tact when presenting your argument. People are more likely to open their minds and attempt to absorb the information when the information is presented thoughtfully.

    OK, I looked it up. Here's the saying: You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar

    I'm still not keen on catching flies. :(

    I'd rather catch a butterfly.

    Consider that analogous for humans. How to I catch butterflies?
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    gue_barium wrote:

    Biology vs. creationism, or spiritualism... It's bunk. Maybe it's necessary in the long run, but when it comes down to it, I fart when I want to.

    Ahnimus wrote:
    Please don't fart in anyone's face, especially a childs. The hydogen sulfide stinks, and the methane causes a displacement of oxygen which could lead to apshyxiation and theoretically death in someone like an infant.


    You two are hilarious.
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    but the illusion of knowledge.
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  • gue_barium
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    Ahnimus wrote:
    Please don't fart in anyone's face, especially a childs. The hydogen sulfide stinks, and the methane causes a displacement of oxygen which could lead to apshyxiation and theoretically death in someone like an infant.

    You know your shit.


    :)
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  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    gue_barium wrote:
    You know your shit.


    :)

    http://www.yourdailymedia.com/media/1165402319/Infrared_Fart
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • baraka
    baraka Posts: 1,268
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I'm still not keen on catching flies. :(

    I'd rather catch a butterfly.

    Consider that analogous for humans. How to I catch butterflies?

    http://bsi.montana.edu/web/kidsbutterfly/faq/catching
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    but the illusion of knowledge.
    ~Daniel Boorstin

    Only a life lived for others is worth living.
    ~Albert Einstein
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    baraka wrote:
    http://bsi.montana.edu/web/kidsbutterfly/faq/catching

    Aww, your sweet, I bet you attract a lot of flies ;)
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • gue_barium
    gue_barium Posts: 5,515
    Ahnimus wrote:
    I'm still not keen on catching flies. :(

    I'd rather catch a butterfly.

    Consider that analogous for humans. How to I catch butterflies?

    You must be the butterfly.
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  • gue_barium
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    gue_barium wrote:
    You must be the butterfly.

    I don't mean that in some sort of Zen-Bhuddist crap sort of way, I mean that in a Creationist's way!
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  • gue_barium
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    Nobody understands me.

    Kat, just kill me for good.
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  • baraka
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    Ahnimus wrote:
    Aww, your sweet, I bet you attract a lot of flies ;)

    I think I'll take that as a compliment! :) I'm like you, I'd rather attract butterflies. Ever been to a butterfly sanctuary?
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    but the illusion of knowledge.
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  • gue_barium
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    baraka wrote:
    I think I'll take that as a compliment! :) I'm like you, I'd rather attract butterflies. Ever been to a butterfly sanctuary?

    I'm tripping on LSD.

    your post really appeals to my missing front teeth-talking.
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  • gue_barium
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    gue_barium wrote:
    I'm tripping on LSD.

    your post really appeals to my missing front teeth-talking.
    And so it goes.

    Like vonnegut said.
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