Ankle-biting Democrats

HughFreakingDillon

Gern Blansten said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

I mean, at least its not losing popularity

https://news.gallup.com/poll/694835/image-capitalism-slips.aspx

So in 15 years socialism gained three points? In that case I’m sure we’ll have a socialist government by the end of the decade.

capitalism falling six points is nothing more than rent and housing being expensive now. So the kids should  stop buying Starbucks and Netflix and start investing. That’s the American way. Nothing compares to it on earth.

they can do a lot better investing than getting free handouts from the government.

lol...investing what?

Dontcha know? Give up your daily latte and become a millionaire. 

Lerxst1992

HughFreakingDillon said:

this polling flies in the face of those saying the party doesn't want to move left. 

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/22/politics/video/poll-aoc-potential-presidential-run-enten-digvid

The democratic party getting smaller flies in the face of that comment.

“Trends in voter registration and party affiliation indicate a complex and shifting landscape for the Democratic Party. While recent polls suggest a small lead in party identification, the party has faced significant losses in registered voters since 2020.

 * Voter Registration: Between 2020 and 2024, the Democratic Party lost a considerable number of registered voters across the 30 states that track party affiliation, while the goaliepost Republican Party gained new registrants. This resulted in a net swing of millions of voters.

 * Shifting Demographics: The Democratic Party's long-standing advantages with certain demographic groups, such as Latino and Black voters, have shown signs of weakening. At the same time, there's been a notable movement of some voters towards the Republican Party, particularly among men and younger demographics.

 * Rise of Independents: The number of Americans identifying as independent has reached a record high, which further complicates the picture for both major parties. While many independents "lean" toward one party or the other, this trend suggests a growing number of voters are not firmly aligned with either Democrats or Republicans.

The Democratic Party has acknowledged these trends and has launched initiatives to try to reverse the registration losses and engage with voters. The party's core demographics continue to be urban voters, college graduates, African Americans, women, and young people, but the recent shifts suggest that these traditional alliances may be less stable than in the past.”

https://tinyurl.com/ycx5xye9

static111

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

I mean, at least its not losing popularity

https://news.gallup.com/poll/694835/image-capitalism-slips.aspx

So in 15 years socialism gained three points? In that case I’m sure we’ll have a socialist government by the end of the decade.

capitalism falling six points is nothing more than rent and housing being expensive now. So the kids should  stop buying Starbucks and Netflix and start investing. That’s the American way. Nothing compares to it on earth.

they can do a lot better investing than getting free handouts from the government.

Just admit to yourself and everyone else you are a Republican already.  Most of your views match up with a classic Republican platform.  I feel like you would have an easier time trying to take Republican craziness from the far right to the center right than trying to convince Democrats to move right and be less liberal.

Lerxst1992

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

I mean, at least its not losing popularity

https://news.gallup.com/poll/694835/image-capitalism-slips.aspx

So in 15 years socialism gained three points? In that case I’m sure we’ll have a socialist government by the end of the decade.

capitalism falling six points is nothing more than rent and housing being expensive now. So the kids should  stop buying Starbucks and Netflix and start investing. That’s the American way. Nothing compares to it on earth.

they can do a lot better investing than getting free handouts from the government.

Just admit to yourself and everyone else you are a Republican already.  Most of your views match up with a classic Republican platform.  I feel like you would have an easier time trying to take Republican craziness from the far right to the center right than trying to convince Democrats to move right and be less liberal.

I’m chatting about what that poll could mean and you are about my voting trends. I’ll never vote R, just looking for the party to stop its craziness that’s leading them to lose members.


Most American voters would agree that smart investing is better than free handouts for things like day care. Mind you I’m all for making it cheaper for those in need, just not free. Nothings free. No way the Rs accept me with that opinion.

gimmesometruth27

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

I mean, at least its not losing popularity

https://news.gallup.com/poll/694835/image-capitalism-slips.aspx

So in 15 years socialism gained three points? In that case I’m sure we’ll have a socialist government by the end of the decade.

capitalism falling six points is nothing more than rent and housing being expensive now. So the kids should  stop buying Starbucks and Netflix and start investing. That’s the American way. Nothing compares to it on earth.

they can do a lot better investing than getting free handouts from the government.

Just admit to yourself and everyone else you are a Republican already.  Most of your views match up with a classic Republican platform.  I feel like you would have an easier time trying to take Republican craziness from the far right to the center right than trying to convince Democrats to move right and be less liberal.

no way we are ever moving right.

did you see that that in defense of the 1st amendment, mamdani backed out of an abc sponsored town hall? this is the way.

PJ_Soul

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

I mean, at least its not losing popularity

https://news.gallup.com/poll/694835/image-capitalism-slips.aspx

So in 15 years socialism gained three points? In that case I’m sure we’ll have a socialist government by the end of the decade.

capitalism falling six points is nothing more than rent and housing being expensive now. So the kids should  stop buying Starbucks and Netflix and start investing. That’s the American way. Nothing compares to it on earth.

they can do a lot better investing than getting free handouts from the government.

Just admit to yourself and everyone else you are a Republican already.  Most of your views match up with a classic Republican platform.  I feel like you would have an easier time trying to take Republican craziness from the far right to the center right than trying to convince Democrats to move right and be less liberal.

I’m chatting about what that poll could mean and you are about my voting trends. I’ll never vote R, just looking for the party to stop its craziness that’s leading them to lose members.


Most American voters would agree that smart investing is better than free handouts for things like day care. Mind you I’m all for making it cheaper for those in need, just not free. Nothings free. No way the Rs accept me with that opinion.

But you think that investing coffee and Netflix money will fix something. That doesn't make any sense. 

HughFreakingDillon

PJ_Soul said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

I mean, at least its not losing popularity

https://news.gallup.com/poll/694835/image-capitalism-slips.aspx

So in 15 years socialism gained three points? In that case I’m sure we’ll have a socialist government by the end of the decade.

capitalism falling six points is nothing more than rent and housing being expensive now. So the kids should  stop buying Starbucks and Netflix and start investing. That’s the American way. Nothing compares to it on earth.

they can do a lot better investing than getting free handouts from the government.

Just admit to yourself and everyone else you are a Republican already.  Most of your views match up with a classic Republican platform.  I feel like you would have an easier time trying to take Republican craziness from the far right to the center right than trying to convince Democrats to move right and be less liberal.

I’m chatting about what that poll could mean and you are about my voting trends. I’ll never vote R, just looking for the party to stop its craziness that’s leading them to lose members.


Most American voters would agree that smart investing is better than free handouts for things like day care. Mind you I’m all for making it cheaper for those in need, just not free. Nothings free. No way the Rs accept me with that opinion.

But you think that investing coffee and Netflix money will fix something. That doesn't make any sense. 

It's a well known trope that some boomers bought into to bitch about millennials for not being able to buy a house because they buy a daily coffee. it's absurd. and easily disprovable by basic math and knowledge of economics. 

https://thehustle.co/just-stop-buying-lattes-the-origins-of-a-millennial-housing-myth#:~:text=Consider the 21st century's most,in Bach's 12 bestselling books.

Lerxst1992

PJ_Soul said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

I mean, at least its not losing popularity

https://news.gallup.com/poll/694835/image-capitalism-slips.aspx

So in 15 years socialism gained three points? In that case I’m sure we’ll have a socialist government by the end of the decade.

capitalism falling six points is nothing more than rent and housing being expensive now. So the kids should  stop buying Starbucks and Netflix and start investing. That’s the American way. Nothing compares to it on earth.

they can do a lot better investing than getting free handouts from the government.

Just admit to yourself and everyone else you are a Republican already.  Most of your views match up with a classic Republican platform.  I feel like you would have an easier time trying to take Republican craziness from the far right to the center right than trying to convince Democrats to move right and be less liberal.

I’m chatting about what that poll could mean and you are about my voting trends. I’ll never vote R, just looking for the party to stop its craziness that’s leading them to lose members.


Most American voters would agree that smart investing is better than free handouts for things like day care. Mind you I’m all for making it cheaper for those in need, just not free. Nothings free. No way the Rs accept me with that opinion.

But you think that investing coffee and Netflix money will fix something. That doesn't make any sense. 

Investing instead of ten bucks a day at Starbucks and monthly subscriptions .

Sorry to break the news, but with millennials, it’s well established 


…..

“ Based on recent data, Millennials spend the most on monthly subscriptions compared to other generations. While the exact amount can vary, several reports provide a clear picture:  

• Average monthly spending: Millennials' average monthly spending on all subscriptions, including streaming, is estimated to be around $101 per month. This is higher than the average for the general U.S. adult population, which is closer to $90 per month.  

• Number of subscriptions: Millennials are often called the "subscription generation" and hold an average of 5.5 subscriptions.  

• Most popular subscriptions: Streaming services are the most common type of subscription, with 76% of Millennials subscribing to TV or film services. Other popular categories include retail (like Amazon Prime) and music services.  

• Overspending and management: A significant number of Millennials (35%) spend over $100 per month on subscriptions, and many are unaware of their total spending. This highlights a common challenge of "subscription creep," where the costs add up unexpectedly “

…..

“ The idea that millennials spend a lot on coffee, particularly at places like Starbucks, is a widely circulated stereotype, but it's based on some real trends in their consumption habits.

Here's a breakdown of the key points:

• High Consumption of Specialty Coffee: Millennials, and increasingly Gen Z, are major drivers of the specialty coffee market. They prefer espresso-based drinks, cold brews, and other custom coffee beverages that are typically sold at coffee shops rather than being brewed at home. This shift in preference is a significant factor in their spending.  

• "Little Treat" Culture: A study found that many millennials are willing to spend around $7 on a daily cup of coffee because it brings them "joy." This aligns with a "little treat" culture, where small, enjoyable purchases are justified as a way to find happiness in an uncertain world.  

• Financial Trade-offs: The stereotype often compares coffee spending to a lack of savings. While some studies have shown that a percentage of millennials spend more on coffee than on retirement accounts, this is not a universal truth. The "Latte Factor" concept, which suggests that small daily purchases like lattes add up and hinder savings, is a popular financial theory that is often applied to this generation.  

• Shifting Away from At-Home Brewing: While older generations may have traditionally brewed coffee at home, younger generations are more likely to seek out-of-home coffee options, whether it's for the experience, the variety of flavors, or the convenience.

• Starbucks' Role: Starbucks has been particularly successful in capturing the millennial market. They have adapted to their preferences by offering a wide variety of cold and specialty drinks, and by implementing features like mobile ordering and loyalty programs that appeal to this demographic. While other coffee chains and independent cafes also benefit from these trends, Starbucks remains a significant player.

Lerxst1992

Whether one generation does it more than others, is irrelevant, which explains why the liberal minds go there.


based on the success of coffee houses the last 25 years or so, and subscription services the last 10-15, its being done. That’s a fact.


The point is the opportunity in America is to invest. Anyone walking around these American streets not aware of Wall is missing out on the greatest opportunity on earth. Find $ every day and invest. Heck, even the govt will give you a 40 year tax deferral to help your invested money explode in value.

HughFreakingDillon

Lerxst1992 said:

Whether one generation does it more than others, is irrelevant, which explains why the liberal minds go there.


based on the success of coffee houses the last 25 years or so, and subscription services the last 10-15, its being done. That’s a fact.


The point is the opportunity in America is to invest. Anyone walking around these American streets not aware of Wall is missing out on the greatest opportunity on earth. Find $ every day and invest. Heck, even the govt will give you a 40 year tax deferral to help your invested money explode in value.

"liberal minds" don't go there. No one was comparing if one generation buys more coffee than another. It's the fact that older generations blame these ridiculous things for the reason millennials can't afford a house, which, as proven by basic economics, is patently absurd. 

I'll let you decide to use AI for this or not, but the subscription services vs cable is also likely a wash. No people my kids age pay for cable. Only streaming. Which amounts to about the same cost, if you have say 5 or so streaming services vs basic cable. Many have only 1 or 2. 

Investing your daily coffee, I'd agree, is a great idea. And will amount to a shit ton of money WHEN YOU ARE AT RETIREMENT AGE. That does literally zero for buying a house in your 20's, 30's, or even your 40's. But investing wasn't your original point. Giving up coffee to be able to afford a house, was. And you pivoted. 

PJ_Soul

Lerxst1992 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

I mean, at least its not losing popularity

https://news.gallup.com/poll/694835/image-capitalism-slips.aspx

So in 15 years socialism gained three points? In that case I’m sure we’ll have a socialist government by the end of the decade.

capitalism falling six points is nothing more than rent and housing being expensive now. So the kids should  stop buying Starbucks and Netflix and start investing. That’s the American way. Nothing compares to it on earth.

they can do a lot better investing than getting free handouts from the government.

Just admit to yourself and everyone else you are a Republican already.  Most of your views match up with a classic Republican platform.  I feel like you would have an easier time trying to take Republican craziness from the far right to the center right than trying to convince Democrats to move right and be less liberal.

I’m chatting about what that poll could mean and you are about my voting trends. I’ll never vote R, just looking for the party to stop its craziness that’s leading them to lose members.


Most American voters would agree that smart investing is better than free handouts for things like day care. Mind you I’m all for making it cheaper for those in need, just not free. Nothings free. No way the Rs accept me with that opinion.

But you think that investing coffee and Netflix money will fix something. That doesn't make any sense. 

Investing instead of ten bucks a day at Starbucks and monthly subscriptions .

Sorry to break the news, but with millennials, it’s well established 


…..

“ Based on recent data, Millennials spend the most on monthly subscriptions compared to other generations. While the exact amount can vary, several reports provide a clear picture:  

• Average monthly spending: Millennials' average monthly spending on all subscriptions, including streaming, is estimated to be around $101 per month. This is higher than the average for the general U.S. adult population, which is closer to $90 per month.  

• Number of subscriptions: Millennials are often called the "subscription generation" and hold an average of 5.5 subscriptions.  

• Most popular subscriptions: Streaming services are the most common type of subscription, with 76% of Millennials subscribing to TV or film services. Other popular categories include retail (like Amazon Prime) and music services.  

• Overspending and management: A significant number of Millennials (35%) spend over $100 per month on subscriptions, and many are unaware of their total spending. This highlights a common challenge of "subscription creep," where the costs add up unexpectedly “

…..

“ The idea that millennials spend a lot on coffee, particularly at places like Starbucks, is a widely circulated stereotype, but it's based on some real trends in their consumption habits.

Here's a breakdown of the key points:

• High Consumption of Specialty Coffee: Millennials, and increasingly Gen Z, are major drivers of the specialty coffee market. They prefer espresso-based drinks, cold brews, and other custom coffee beverages that are typically sold at coffee shops rather than being brewed at home. This shift in preference is a significant factor in their spending.  

• "Little Treat" Culture: A study found that many millennials are willing to spend around $7 on a daily cup of coffee because it brings them "joy." This aligns with a "little treat" culture, where small, enjoyable purchases are justified as a way to find happiness in an uncertain world.  

• Financial Trade-offs: The stereotype often compares coffee spending to a lack of savings. While some studies have shown that a percentage of millennials spend more on coffee than on retirement accounts, this is not a universal truth. The "Latte Factor" concept, which suggests that small daily purchases like lattes add up and hinder savings, is a popular financial theory that is often applied to this generation.  

• Shifting Away from At-Home Brewing: While older generations may have traditionally brewed coffee at home, younger generations are more likely to seek out-of-home coffee options, whether it's for the experience, the variety of flavors, or the convenience.

• Starbucks' Role: Starbucks has been particularly successful in capturing the millennial market. They have adapted to their preferences by offering a wide variety of cold and specialty drinks, and by implementing features like mobile ordering and loyalty programs that appeal to this demographic. While other coffee chains and independent cafes also benefit from these trends, Starbucks remains a significant player.

Yeah, investing coffee and Netflix money. That's what I said. I think the whole theory that the economy could be saved or all of younger people's financial future worries could be solved with their coffee and Netflix money is lunacy. I understood what you were saying. I just don't agree. 

gimmesometruth27

PJ_Soul said:

Lerxst1992 said:

PJ_Soul said:

Lerxst1992 said:

static111 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

Tim Simmons said:

I mean, at least its not losing popularity

https://news.gallup.com/poll/694835/image-capitalism-slips.aspx

So in 15 years socialism gained three points? In that case I’m sure we’ll have a socialist government by the end of the decade.

capitalism falling six points is nothing more than rent and housing being expensive now. So the kids should  stop buying Starbucks and Netflix and start investing. That’s the American way. Nothing compares to it on earth.

they can do a lot better investing than getting free handouts from the government.

Just admit to yourself and everyone else you are a Republican already.  Most of your views match up with a classic Republican platform.  I feel like you would have an easier time trying to take Republican craziness from the far right to the center right than trying to convince Democrats to move right and be less liberal.

I’m chatting about what that poll could mean and you are about my voting trends. I’ll never vote R, just looking for the party to stop its craziness that’s leading them to lose members.


Most American voters would agree that smart investing is better than free handouts for things like day care. Mind you I’m all for making it cheaper for those in need, just not free. Nothings free. No way the Rs accept me with that opinion.

But you think that investing coffee and Netflix money will fix something. That doesn't make any sense. 

Investing instead of ten bucks a day at Starbucks and monthly subscriptions .

Sorry to break the news, but with millennials, it’s well established 


…..

“ Based on recent data, Millennials spend the most on monthly subscriptions compared to other generations. While the exact amount can vary, several reports provide a clear picture:  

• Average monthly spending: Millennials' average monthly spending on all subscriptions, including streaming, is estimated to be around $101 per month. This is higher than the average for the general U.S. adult population, which is closer to $90 per month.  

• Number of subscriptions: Millennials are often called the "subscription generation" and hold an average of 5.5 subscriptions.  

• Most popular subscriptions: Streaming services are the most common type of subscription, with 76% of Millennials subscribing to TV or film services. Other popular categories include retail (like Amazon Prime) and music services.  

• Overspending and management: A significant number of Millennials (35%) spend over $100 per month on subscriptions, and many are unaware of their total spending. This highlights a common challenge of "subscription creep," where the costs add up unexpectedly “

…..

“ The idea that millennials spend a lot on coffee, particularly at places like Starbucks, is a widely circulated stereotype, but it's based on some real trends in their consumption habits.

Here's a breakdown of the key points:

• High Consumption of Specialty Coffee: Millennials, and increasingly Gen Z, are major drivers of the specialty coffee market. They prefer espresso-based drinks, cold brews, and other custom coffee beverages that are typically sold at coffee shops rather than being brewed at home. This shift in preference is a significant factor in their spending.  

• "Little Treat" Culture: A study found that many millennials are willing to spend around $7 on a daily cup of coffee because it brings them "joy." This aligns with a "little treat" culture, where small, enjoyable purchases are justified as a way to find happiness in an uncertain world.  

• Financial Trade-offs: The stereotype often compares coffee spending to a lack of savings. While some studies have shown that a percentage of millennials spend more on coffee than on retirement accounts, this is not a universal truth. The "Latte Factor" concept, which suggests that small daily purchases like lattes add up and hinder savings, is a popular financial theory that is often applied to this generation.  

• Shifting Away from At-Home Brewing: While older generations may have traditionally brewed coffee at home, younger generations are more likely to seek out-of-home coffee options, whether it's for the experience, the variety of flavors, or the convenience.

• Starbucks' Role: Starbucks has been particularly successful in capturing the millennial market. They have adapted to their preferences by offering a wide variety of cold and specialty drinks, and by implementing features like mobile ordering and loyalty programs that appeal to this demographic. While other coffee chains and independent cafes also benefit from these trends, Starbucks remains a significant player.

Yeah, investing coffee and Netflix money. That's what I said. I think the whole theory that the economy could be saved or all of younger people's financial future worries could be solved with their coffee and Netflix money is lunacy. I understood what you were saying. I just don't agree. 

i agree.

"let me see, do i want to invest this $5 and maybe i will be financially set in 20 years, or should i get rid of this caffeine withdrawl headache now."

static111

Is it my weekly $5 coffee and $10 a month Netflix that is keeping me from buying a house, or is it the fact that as I have come of age every income bump has also resulted with increasing inflation. 

 I make 6 figures income but due to the fact that rent in a modest home for my family, combined with rising grocery prices, the cost of everything in general going up car maintenance etc and the fact that homes have gone from roughly 175k-250k in my city to 500k minimum for a literal dilapidated piece of shit. Must be that $20bucks a month that is keeping me from all that golden opportunity. Lol.

Do people of generations before millennials not realize we don't live in the same world with the same economics as when your deadbeat parents could get a 60k loan to buy a house that's worth 500k now?  All hail greed and wall street I guess never mind the blood that goes into getting those returns to magically keep rolling in.

HughFreakingDillon

yeah, my parents lived on a single family income for 5 of $50-60,000. Decent 1200 sq foot house in the burbs cost $60K. The house is now about $400K or more. The income is now about $100K. 

4 times disparity.

A cup of coffee and a netflix should cover it!

static111

HughFreakingDillon said:

yeah, my parents lived on a single family income for 5 of $50-60,000. Decent 1200 sq foot house in the burbs cost $60K. The house is now about $400K or more. The income is now about $100K. 

4 times disparity.

A cup of coffee and a netflix should cover it!

Its laughable how thick some people have become. Whatever it takes to puff up their smug sense of superiority.  I need to go find that old man yells at clouds meme.

gimmesometruth27

static111 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

yeah, my parents lived on a single family income for 5 of $50-60,000. Decent 1200 sq foot house in the burbs cost $60K. The house is now about $400K or more. The income is now about $100K. 

4 times disparity.

A cup of coffee and a netflix should cover it!

Its laughable how thick some people have become. Whatever it takes to puff up their smug sense of superiority.  I need to go find that old man yells at clouds meme.

you can just make a new one. i am tired of seeing the old simpsons one. **



**= as i shake my fist at the clouds above.

DE4173

MSNBC: Pelosi seemed to relish the fight with Trump; do you? 

HAKEEM JEFFRIES: On Saturday, Leader Schumer and I sent a letter laying out our position very clearly ...

https://x.com/kenklippenstein/status/1970586392825676230?t=UCyXeRQ8uueoWXNkPkVnTA&s=19

gimmesometruth27

static111 said:

Is it my weekly $5 coffee and $10 a month Netflix that is keeping me from buying a house, or is it the fact that as I have come of age every income bump has also resulted with increasing inflation. 

 I make 6 figures income but due to the fact that rent in a modest home for my family, combined with rising grocery prices, the cost of everything in general going up car maintenance etc and the fact that homes have gone from roughly 175k-250k in my city to 500k minimum for a literal dilapidated piece of shit. Must be that $20bucks a month that is keeping me from all that golden opportunity. Lol.

Do people of generations before millennials not realize we don't live in the same world with the same economics as when your deadbeat parents could get a 60k loan to buy a house that's worth 500k now?  All hail greed and wall street I guess never mind the blood that goes into getting those returns to magically keep rolling in.

i agree. it is definitely not the same world. i remember my parents giving me shit 25 years ago for paying so much for my starter home when it was smaller than the one they bought in like 1977. you know, back when coffee was 5 cents and cable tv, let alone netflix, was not a thing yet.

Tim Simmons

boomer ass Warren Buffet shit

josevolution

Investing in what? Even if you save $1825 per year for 30 years you’d have just about $55k I guess that’s a good down payment on a 400k home! But at least here on Long Island not too many homes are available for 400k or less! I bought my house here on Long Island in 1994 for $160k last estimate we’ve had was for above 600k