Al-Qaida No. 2 clears up a few things.....

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  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    69charger wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-B6c6xxXug

    Part 1 of 4

    Inside 9/11

    Documentary by National Geographic

    What is that 2 hours?

    Just tell me what is says when it explains why the FBI says nothing on their website regarding 9/11 under Osama's profile.

    All I wanna know...
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
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  • Open
    Open Posts: 792
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    I disagree. I think they do hate our freedoms. not enough to be the sole reason to attack us, but the hatred is there. just look at the "laws" of extreme Islam. they are completely opposite of freedom. especially the treatment of women.

    just look at what he said in the interview...

    al-Zawahri said it was against Islamic religious law for any Muslim to live permanently in a Western country because in doing so they would "have permanent stay there under the laws of the infidels."

    They dont hate that you're walking around here "free"; I think hate our attempts to force "freedom" down their throats.

    Hate is a reaction; people arent born with it.
  • PearlsGirl
    PearlsGirl Posts: 257
    There are different schools of Islam, and radical/Wahhabi Islam is one school that emerged when a certain group of men deciphered the Qur'an according to their times. They aren't jealous of anything, they are angry. They are so angry at US presence in the Middle East, they are angry at Israel (America+Israel=bff), they are angry at Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and the UEA. They are just letting out their frustrations. I can understand where they are coming from, as a professor once put it, lets say that Al Qaida took over America, would you join an organization who fought against them? one of my friends make a joke asking if we'd have to blow ourselves up, but when it came down to it, we all agreed that we would join. If you found yourself to be so passionate about something, you would do anything for change. They are voicing their opinion.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying what they are doing is right, they are humans, just like us, they have their own freedoms. Religious freedom for most people in this world is all they need.
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  • 69charger
    69charger Posts: 1,045
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    What is that 2 hours?

    Just tell me what is says when it explains why the FBI says nothing on their website regarding 9/11 under Osama's profile.

    All I wanna know...

    It's a great documentary for anyone who is interested in the events leading up to 9/11. Watching Charlie Wilson's War followed by Inside 9/11 would give you a complete picture of the events and characters that lead to 9/11.

    But you go ahead and keep listening to your own BS...
  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    69charger wrote:
    It's a great documentary for anyone who is interested in the events leading up to 9/11. Watching Charlie Wilson's War followed by Inside 9/11 would give you a complete picture of the events and characters that lead to 9/11.

    But you go ahead and keep listening to your own BS...
    ...
    There's another chilling 'Frontline' documentary called, 'The Man who Knew'. It is about the FBI New York Office's agent assigned to the al Qaeda/bin Laden task force, John O'Neill.
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/knew/
    He pieced together all of the pices that pointed to the September 11, 2001 attacks but ran into a bearucratic nightmare in the FBI and it's failurs to share information with other intelligence and law enforcement agencies. It does not paint President Clinton's administration is a good light.
    Remove the Democrat/Republican finger pointing that seems to cloud our vision and look at the overall facts to get the clear picture of what happened.
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  • Kann
    Kann Posts: 1,146
    Collin wrote:
    So anything Al-Zawahri says is pure fact? Al-Qaeda has something to gain by saying they did it.

    It is if you (generic you) agree with what he's saying.
  • lazymoon13
    lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    69charger wrote:
    It's a great documentary for anyone who is interested in the events leading up to 9/11. Watching Charlie Wilson's War followed by Inside 9/11 would give you a complete picture of the events and characters that lead to 9/11.

    But you go ahead and keep listening to your own BS...

    amazing isn't it? this guy will post a 2 hours youtube video about fluoride among other garbarge but will refuse to watch something worth wild.
  • lazymoon13
    lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    Open wrote:
    They dont hate that you're walking around here "free"; I think hate our attempts to force "freedom" down their throats.

    Hate is a reaction; people arent born with it.

    I know they don't hate us because we are "free". they (the extremists) hate the "western" way of life in general......music, equality of women, booze, freedom of religion, freedom of expression, etc etc.

    and your right, people aren't born with hate. they are put in madrasas at age 3 and the brainwashing begins.
  • 69charger
    69charger Posts: 1,045
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    There's another chilling 'Frontline' documentary called, 'The Man who Knew'. It is about the FBI New York Office's agent assigned to the al Qaeda/bin Laden task force, John O'Neill.
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/knew/
    He pieced together all of the pices that pointed to the September 11, 2001 attacks but ran into a bearucratic nightmare in the FBI and it's failurs to share information with other intelligence and law enforcement agencies. It does not paint President Clinton's administration is a good light.
    Remove the Democrat/Republican finger pointing that seems to cloud our vision and look at the overall facts to get the clear picture of what happened.

    Seen it! Also great!
  • Open
    Open Posts: 792
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    I know they don't hate us because we are "free". they (the extremists) hate the "western" way of life in general......music, equality of women, booze, freedom of religion, freedom of expression, etc etc.

    and your right, people aren't born with hate. they are put in madrasas at age 3 and the brainwashing begins.

    Exactly, just like the KKK idiots who dress up their 3 year olds in sheets at their parades.
  • lazymoon13
    lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    Open wrote:
    Exactly, just like the KKK idiots who dress up their 3 year olds in sheets at their parades.

    absolutely. but realistically, I think its more of an epidemic in the arab world then the crazy white man world.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Cosmo wrote:
    ...
    There's another chilling 'Frontline' documentary called, 'The Man who Knew'. It is about the FBI New York Office's agent assigned to the al Qaeda/bin Laden task force, John O'Neill.
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/knew/
    He pieced together all of the pices that pointed to the September 11, 2001 attacks but ran into a bearucratic nightmare in the FBI and it's failurs to share information with other intelligence and law enforcement agencies. It does not paint President Clinton's administration is a good light.
    Remove the Democrat/Republican finger pointing that seems to cloud our vision and look at the overall facts to get the clear picture of what happened.

    I saw that documentary as well. On a side note didn't he actually die on 9/11. He had recently taken a job as the head of security for a firm in one of the towers.
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  • Open
    Open Posts: 792
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    absolutely. but realistically, I think its more of an epidemic in the arab world then the crazy white man world.

    True, but as soon as Iraq starts setting up bases in Arizona, i think that would change. Those idiots that we have now patroling borders (Minutemen) would turn a lot more extreme.
  • lazymoon13
    lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    Open wrote:
    True, but as soon as Iraq starts setting up bases in Arizona, i think that would change. Those idiots that we have now patroling borders (Minutemen) would turn a lot more extreme.

    ha thats a good point.
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    69charger wrote:
    It's a great documentary for anyone who is interested in the events leading up to 9/11. Watching Charlie Wilson's War followed by Inside 9/11 would give you a complete picture of the events and characters that lead to 9/11.

    But you go ahead and keep listening to your own BS...


    I posed a single question on why Osama is not mentioned on the FBI's most wanted in connection to 9/11. You link me a movie, I repeat my original question (and observation), and somehow now I'm full of BS?

    wha da fa......?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

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  • 69charger
    69charger Posts: 1,045
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    I posed a single question on why Osama is not mentioned on the FBI's most wanted in connection to 9/11. You link me a movie, I repeat my original question (and observation), and somehow now I'm full of BS?

    wha da fa......?

    Are you scared to watch it?
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    69charger wrote:
    Are you scared to watch it?

    If it doesn't even provide the answer to my original question, why would I watch it?

    2 hours and it's not going to answer my question apparently. Or does it?

    If it does then what is it?
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • lazymoon13
    lazymoon13 Posts: 838
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    If it doesn't even provide the answer to my original question, why would I watch it?

    you might fucking learn something thats why
  • RolandTD20Kdrummer
    RolandTD20Kdrummer Posts: 13,066
    lazymoon13 wrote:
    you might fucking learn something thats why


    You're quite the little pop up court jester it seems. What's with all the little skippy remarks?

    I asked a simple question. I got a link of which I assumed was the answer. but It was 2 hours long with no time reference.
    Progress is not made by everyone joining some new fad,
    and reveling in it's loyalty. It's made by forming coalitions
    over specific principles, goals, and policies.

    http://i36.tinypic.com/66j31x.jpg

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  • 69charger
    69charger Posts: 1,045
    RolandTD20Kdrummer wrote:
    If it doesn't even provide the answer to my original question, why would I watch it?

    2 hours and it's not going to answer my question apparently. Or does it?

    If it does then what is it?

    Watch it.

    As someone who is very interested in 9/11 I would think you'd be interested in watching this documentary.

    You're scared to watch it.

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