Would you prefer we lose the war in Iraq?

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  • TexJam
    TexJam Posts: 31
    You make me laugh, no offense...

    Well...I have a deal for you. Explain to me why Iraq isn't better off today compared to pre-Saddam. I realize innocents have died...and that is tragic. And also explain how we lost and should throw up the white flag.
    **Houston 92
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  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    TexJam wrote:
    Well....the french make me laugh...well the whole world actually...so :-)

    prove me how the USA are winning this war in Iraq, are they showing the civillians killing in Texas or just Americans death, you should definitly wake up, it's time for your country to admit their mistakes and failure, and to step down, it wouldn't be coward or spineless, it would be an act of bravery...
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    TexJam wrote:
    Well...I have a deal for you. Explain to me why Iraq isn't better off today compared to pre-Saddam. I realize innocents have died...and that is tragic. And also explain how we lost and should throw up the white flag.

    blabla about the past won't do shit, tell me how it is a winning situation and what is the USA plan to achieve a "win" and what the main point for a "win" are, so far i've seen none of these, cause there's no plan of winning, being in the country is what the USA were looking for.

    edit: it's not about the USA, it's about the Iraquis, every account of Iraquis speaking outside Iraq is talking about how they're living in fears and without any freedoms right now, the fear of being killed just because of their ethnicity all this, is enough for me to conclude that the USA have already failed...
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • TexJam
    TexJam Posts: 31
    blabla about the past won't do shit, tell me how it is a winning situation and what is the USA plan to achieve a "win" and what the main point for a "win" are, so far i've seen none of these, cause there's no plan of winning, being in the country is what the USA were looking for.


    Huh? I guess you are asking how we are winning? Well...you answer me,since I asked first, how are we losing? please don't be the typical lib(that is if you are) and not answer questions when asked......and please don't change the subject.
    **Houston 92
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    **Houston 03
  • weenie
    weenie Posts: 1,623
    Yeah, one would hope. I don't know about your area, but I see hundreds of those damn "W" stickers on cars all the time. I would be embarrased to have one of those things on anything of min. Of course, "southerners" do have a reputation for being dense....... I'm from South Florida - a little bit different there. Lots of liberals.
    ~I want to realize brotherhood or identity not merely with the beings called human, but I want to realize identity with all life, even with such things as crawl upon earth.~
    Mohandas K. Gandhi

    ~I once had a sparrow alight upon my shoulder for a moment, while I was hoeing in a village garden, and I felt that I was more distinguished by that circumstance than I should have been by any epaulette I could have worn.~
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  • TexJam
    TexJam Posts: 31

    edit: it's not about the USA, it's about the Iraquis, every account of Iraquis speaking outside Iraq is talking about how they're living in fears and without any freedoms right now, the fear of being killed just because of their ethnicity all this, is enough for me to conclude that the USA have already failed...

    Well...good thing you can't vote. Please stay in Canada.
    **Houston 92
    **Houston 00
    **Houston 03
  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    TexJam wrote:
    Huh? I guess you are asking how we are winning? Well...you answer me,since I asked first, how are we losing? please don't be the typical lib(that is if you are) and not answer questions when asked......and please don't change the subject.

    yeah i did while i was posting you posted this and vice versa, that's what sucks with the internet, and mind you i have to translate before i post so it can take longer, but it's up there...
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    TexJam wrote:
    Well...good thing you can't vote. Please stay in Canada.

    good thing you can't vote??? what's that suppose to mean? Don't worry i'll stay in Canada...
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • weenie
    weenie Posts: 1,623
    "typical libs" aren't NOT answering the questions..... It's just that the "typical conservative" doesn't GET the answer......
    ~I want to realize brotherhood or identity not merely with the beings called human, but I want to realize identity with all life, even with such things as crawl upon earth.~
    Mohandas K. Gandhi

    ~I once had a sparrow alight upon my shoulder for a moment, while I was hoeing in a village garden, and I felt that I was more distinguished by that circumstance than I should have been by any epaulette I could have worn.~
    Henry David Thoreau
  • TexJam
    TexJam Posts: 31
    weenie wrote:
    Yeah, one would hope. I don't know about your area, but I see hundreds of those damn "W" stickers on cars all the time. I would be embarrased to have one of those things on anything of min. Of course, "southerners" do have a reputation for being dense....... I'm from South Florida - a little bit different there. Lots of liberals.

    **shakes head**

    hate leads to anger.....
    **Houston 92
    **Houston 00
    **Houston 03
  • TexJam
    TexJam Posts: 31
    weenie wrote:
    "typical libs" aren't NOT answering the questions..... It's just that the "typical conservative" doesn't GET the answer......

    No...typical libs avoid answering the questions. They change the subject. If someone gives me a reasonable "answer" whether they are lib or con, I will GET it.
    **Houston 92
    **Houston 00
    **Houston 03
  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    TexJam wrote:
    **shakes head**

    hate leads to anger.....

    so when will you say something, i mean it's a discussion board...
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • TexJam wrote:
    The UN is the most corrupt and useless organization on Earth. Cmon!
    So is the U.S. Government, but you seem to support it's mission.

    Make your life a mission - not an intermission. - Arnold Gasglow
  • TexJam
    TexJam Posts: 31
    yeah i did while i was posting you posted this and vice versa, that's what sucks with the internet, and mind you i have to translate before i post so it can take longer, but it's up there...

    My apologies, didn't realize you had to translate.

    Hey...I can admit when I am wrong :-)
    **Houston 92
    **Houston 00
    **Houston 03
  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    TexJam wrote:
    My apologies, didn't realize you had to translate.

    Hey...I can admit when I am wrong :-)

    no problem, i would just like you to put some thoughts behind what you're saying now, like telling me what will be the winning situation, and how are you currently winning this war, cause that's where we disagree...
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • weenie wrote:
    Yeah, one would hope. I don't know about your area, but I see hundreds of those damn "W" stickers on cars all the time. I would be embarrased to have one of those things on anything of min. Of course, "southerners" do have a reputation for being dense....... I'm from South Florida - a little bit different there. Lots of liberals.

    I know what you mean about bumper stickers. I see people with Kerry/Edwards 2004 stickers all the time. How embarassing. Especially after Kerry's get out of Iraq bill was shit on 13-86 last night.
  • I know what you mean about bumper stickers. I see people with Kerry/Edwards 2004 stickers all the time. How embarassing. Especially after Kerry's get out of Iraq bill was shit on 13-86 last night.


    I'm guessing a lot of moderate Republicans feel pretty stupid driving around with a "Bush/Cheney 2004" sticker on their cars these days...
    "Of course it hurts. You're getting fucked by an elephant."
  • TexJam
    TexJam Posts: 31
    Brink wrote:
    So is the U.S. Government, but you seem to support it's mission.

    Ignorance is bliss eh? The problem with the "Hate America/Blame America" front is that they don't need to base anything on fact. If you think America is corrupt, and you are correct to a point, please look at the rest of the world and give me a better country to live in.
    Hey, questioning the government is our given right. But please, lets go beyond the "America is evil" rhetoric because it makes you look ignorant and if you are a PJ fan, that is highly doubtful.
    **Houston 92
    **Houston 00
    **Houston 03
  • TexJam
    TexJam Posts: 31
    no problem, i would just like you to put some thoughts behind what you're saying now, like telling me what will be the winning situation, and how are you currently winning this war, cause that's where we disagree...

    fair enough.

    Anyways, got a job to go to now. its been fun and everyone have a blessed day. :-)
    **Houston 92
    **Houston 00
    **Houston 03
  • thankyougrandma
    thankyougrandma Posts: 1,182
    TexJam wrote:
    Ignorance is bliss eh? The problem with the "Hate America/Blame America" front is that they don't need to base anything on fact. If you think America is corrupt, and you are correct to a point, please look at the rest of the world and give me a better country to live in.
    Hey, questioning the government is our given right. But please, lets go beyond the "America is evil" rhetoric because it makes you look ignorant and if you are a PJ fan, that is highly doubtful.

    America is not evil
    Leftist and hippy are idiots
    Canadians are leftist and hippies
    French are stupid

    ok now that we have sums it up, let's talk about Irak...
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau