I 'm confused on what you all think?

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  • Thecure
    Thecure Posts: 814
    Pegasus wrote:
    thing is they're not taking from you.. they stay in the garden shed in exchange for doing all the dirty work around the house.

    if you don't want them in the shed, a) stop shouting so loudly how rich you are b) pay them decently for the work they do for you in their own home c) pressure their landlord to charge them a fair rent

    let's start with Point a. first off, i am not shouting how rich i am but if i was does that give permission for people to break laws. you can say we must change the law and that's fine.

    point b. what does that have to do with "illegal" immigrants. i don't think we should hire "illegal" immigrants.

    point c. yet again what does this have to do with "illegal" immigrants.

    we should be fighting for people who have come "legally" for those things.
    we should also work with different countries so that they may provide those items to their citizens
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    onelongsong wrote:
    i was a gunsmith for 6 years. i like my collection. from old black powder guns to the guns i made myself.
    Dude in another thread you just gave me an inventory of your guns..what 3 guns....so how many guns do you really have???
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  • prism
    prism Posts: 2,440
    mammasan wrote:
    Well considering that only 6.4%, as of 2005, of the inmates in state and federal prison are illegal aliens I would think that we have more to fear from our own citizens then from illegal aliens.

    exactly. that's why all this paranoia about how illegals are ruining everything in the US is just absurd.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Thecure wrote:
    i agree, but we can't go back to where we were then. we have seperated things into legal and illegal. my concern is that we seem to be picking and choosing what laws can and can't be broken. thats's a problem.
    soo what your saying is if the law benefits you its okay..but if not then not okay??? and yes we can to back...you can find a native american indian and give them all your illegally acquired property...land etc and go back accross the pond...that would really work. And them "illegals" are really close blood line wise to the American indians so...really probably best for you to find an illegal..give him all your stuff and then head back over...and take all you white relatives with you.....I am laughing as I write this by the way..light humor...
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  • Thecure
    Thecure Posts: 814
    mammasan wrote:
    Well considering that only 6.4%, as of 2005, of the inmates in state and federal prison are illegal aliens I would think that we have more to fear from our own citizens then from illegal aliens.

    but you can also raise the question of what % of the population are Illeagl?
    People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    onelongsong wrote:
    and that's been my entire argument.
    Please read my reply to the cure...applies to you as well....(-:
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  • prism
    prism Posts: 2,440
    Thecure wrote:
    but you can also raise the question of what % of the population are Illeagl?

    now does anyone know what the real numbers are? it's not as if they sign in as they cross the border

    at least with the jail/prison population they can check the inmate's citizen status
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  • Thecure
    Thecure Posts: 814
    callen wrote:
    soo what your saying is if the law benefits you its okay..but if not then not okay??? and yes we can to back...you can find a native american indian and give them all your illegally acquired property...land etc and go back accross the pond...that would really work. And them "illegals" are really close blood line wise to the American indians so...really probably best for you to find an illegal..give him all your stuff and then head back over...and take all you white relatives with you.....I am laughing as I write this by the way..light humor...

    can i give it back to a native canadian indian. i stole from them.
    People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
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  • Jeremy1012
    Jeremy1012 Posts: 7,170
    acoustic guy wrote:
    It seems to me that most of you here are for protecting illegal immigrants??
    Is this the case?
    We should greet them with open arms?
    I am sure there has been big talks in here about it but I was not apart of them so I would like to know where you stand.
    I can not believe any American would want to just allow anyone on this planet just walk in and out of here like its some God Damn Public Restroom!
    The United States is a nation of immigrants. it was built on immigrants, unless you are native american, you are a descendant of immigrants. Deal with it. You're the land of the free.
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  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    Thecure wrote:
    but you can also raise the question of what % of the population are Illeagl?

    True there is a larger citizen population than there is an illegal one but from the info I have found the percentages are about the same. 3.1% of US citizens are in prison while 3% of the roughly 15 million illegals in this country are in prison. So by those numbers illegals are no more or less violent or inclined to commit a crime than a citizen would be.
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    acoustic guy wrote:
    It seems to me that most of you here are for protecting illegal immigrants??
    Is this the case?
    We should greet them with open arms?
    I am sure there has been big talks in here about it but I was not apart of them so I would like to know where you stand.
    I can not believe any American would want to just allow anyone on this planet just walk in and out of here like its some God Damn Public Restroom!

    Yeah the everyday American doesn't want this but the politicians want open borders so they can continue cheap labor in America. Think they don't, think again.

    Peace
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  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    acoustic guy wrote:
    It seems to me that most of you here are for protecting illegal immigrants??
    Is this the case?
    We should greet them with open arms?
    I am sure there has been big talks in here about it but I was not apart of them so I would like to know where you stand.
    I can not believe any American would want to just allow anyone on this planet just walk in and out of here like its some God Damn Public Restroom!

    Yeah the everyday American doesn't want this but the politicians want open borders so they can continue cheap labor in America. Think they don't, think again.

    Peace
    *We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti

    *MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
    .....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti

    *The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)


  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    callen wrote:
    Dude in another thread you just gave me an inventory of your guns..what 3 guns....so how many guns do you really have???

    i did not give you an inventory. i told you why i needed a gun and i told you why; and which guns i use. i own between 28 and 32 guns in my collection. many have never been taken out of their box.
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    callen wrote:
    Dude in another thread you just gave me an inventory of your guns..what 3 guns....so how many guns do you really have???

    i did not give you an inventory. i told you why i needed a gun and i told you why; and which guns i use. i own between 28 and 32 guns in my collection. many have never been taken out of their box.
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    g under p wrote:
    Yeah the everyday American doesn't want this but the politicians want open borders so they can continue cheap labor in America. Think they don't, think again.

    Peace

    let's have open borders; then we can go to canada for free healthcare.
  • dunkman
    dunkman Posts: 19,646
    onelongsong wrote:
    let's have open borders; then we can go to canada for free healthcare.

    so america doesnt have free healthcare? what a fucked up nation that is... lets spend 37 quintiliion on bombing Afghiniraqistan but fuck all the actual people who might need a plaster cast, or a lung operation, fuck em... cos those poor people dont own oil..


    signed Dunk

    free health care
    free dentists
    free eye tests
    free cancer treatment
    freeeeedom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    dunkman wrote:
    so america doesnt have free healthcare? what a fucked up nation that is... lets spend 37 quintiliion on bombing Afghiniraqistan but fuck all the actual people who might need a plaster cast, or a lung operation, fuck em... cos those poor people dont own oil..


    signed Dunk

    free health care
    free dentists
    free eye tests
    free cancer treatment
    freeeeedom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    yeah scotland - bunch of skirt wearing fairies...maybe we'll bomb y'alls asses next
    i'm the meat, yer not...signed Capt Asshat
  • onelongsong
    onelongsong Posts: 3,517
    810wmb wrote:
    yeah scotland - bunch of skirt wearing fairies...maybe we'll bomb y'alls asses next

    let's send them the 15 million illegals we have here. that'll put an end to their free healthcare.
  • 810wmb
    810wmb Posts: 849
    no shit - i heard people are making a mad dash for scotland.....




















    they heard the sheep fucking is pretty good over there
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  • acoustic guy
    acoustic guy Posts: 3,770
    Ok, I am back from shopping.
    Gooooood Debate. But....I am still right.
    LOL.
    For those of you who are American here, Arn't you bothered by the fact that by the time your great grand kids are adults, its quite possible that they will be living in a world where no one is a white american?
    That is not racist either. I know that is coming, I just do not want my race to disappear. I am as proud of my race any other.

    And...a lot of people coming here do not want to live in "AMERICA", they want to bring their country here. Example. Last year when they had all the fighting about illigal immagrants having rights....they did not hold up American Flags.....they held up their own flag!!!! Totally disrespectful! If you wanna be considered american then show us by holding up american flags!
    I saw a legal mexican guy who owns a store in america flying a Mexican flag Over a American flag.

    You people who do not agree with me are fucking nuts!!!!!
    Fucking nuts!!!!
    One day you will wake up and English will not even be the native language here.....mark my words!
    Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
    Sweep the Leg Johnny.

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