thing is they're not taking from you.. they stay in the garden shed in exchange for doing all the dirty work around the house.
if you don't want them in the shed, a) stop shouting so loudly how rich you are b) pay them decently for the work they do for you in their own home c) pressure their landlord to charge them a fair rent
let's start with Point a. first off, i am not shouting how rich i am but if i was does that give permission for people to break laws. you can say we must change the law and that's fine.
point b. what does that have to do with "illegal" immigrants. i don't think we should hire "illegal" immigrants.
point c. yet again what does this have to do with "illegal" immigrants.
we should be fighting for people who have come "legally" for those things.
we should also work with different countries so that they may provide those items to their citizens
People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
Well considering that only 6.4%, as of 2005, of the inmates in state and federal prison are illegal aliens I would think that we have more to fear from our own citizens then from illegal aliens.
exactly. that's why all this paranoia about how illegals are ruining everything in the US is just absurd.
i agree, but we can't go back to where we were then. we have seperated things into legal and illegal. my concern is that we seem to be picking and choosing what laws can and can't be broken. thats's a problem.
soo what your saying is if the law benefits you its okay..but if not then not okay??? and yes we can to back...you can find a native american indian and give them all your illegally acquired property...land etc and go back accross the pond...that would really work. And them "illegals" are really close blood line wise to the American indians so...really probably best for you to find an illegal..give him all your stuff and then head back over...and take all you white relatives with you.....I am laughing as I write this by the way..light humor...
Well considering that only 6.4%, as of 2005, of the inmates in state and federal prison are illegal aliens I would think that we have more to fear from our own citizens then from illegal aliens.
but you can also raise the question of what % of the population are Illeagl?
People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
soo what your saying is if the law benefits you its okay..but if not then not okay??? and yes we can to back...you can find a native american indian and give them all your illegally acquired property...land etc and go back accross the pond...that would really work. And them "illegals" are really close blood line wise to the American indians so...really probably best for you to find an illegal..give him all your stuff and then head back over...and take all you white relatives with you.....I am laughing as I write this by the way..light humor...
can i give it back to a native canadian indian. i stole from them.
People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid."
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
It seems to me that most of you here are for protecting illegal immigrants??
Is this the case?
We should greet them with open arms?
I am sure there has been big talks in here about it but I was not apart of them so I would like to know where you stand.
I can not believe any American would want to just allow anyone on this planet just walk in and out of here like its some God Damn Public Restroom!
The United States is a nation of immigrants. it was built on immigrants, unless you are native american, you are a descendant of immigrants. Deal with it. You're the land of the free.
"I remember one night at Muzdalifa with nothing but the sky overhead, I lay awake amid sleeping Muslim brothers and I learned that pilgrims from every land — every colour, and class, and rank; high officials and the beggar alike — all snored in the same language"
but you can also raise the question of what % of the population are Illeagl?
True there is a larger citizen population than there is an illegal one but from the info I have found the percentages are about the same. 3.1% of US citizens are in prison while 3% of the roughly 15 million illegals in this country are in prison. So by those numbers illegals are no more or less violent or inclined to commit a crime than a citizen would be.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
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It seems to me that most of you here are for protecting illegal immigrants??
Is this the case?
We should greet them with open arms?
I am sure there has been big talks in here about it but I was not apart of them so I would like to know where you stand.
I can not believe any American would want to just allow anyone on this planet just walk in and out of here like its some God Damn Public Restroom!
Yeah the everyday American doesn't want this but the politicians want open borders so they can continue cheap labor in America. Think they don't, think again.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
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It seems to me that most of you here are for protecting illegal immigrants??
Is this the case?
We should greet them with open arms?
I am sure there has been big talks in here about it but I was not apart of them so I would like to know where you stand.
I can not believe any American would want to just allow anyone on this planet just walk in and out of here like its some God Damn Public Restroom!
Yeah the everyday American doesn't want this but the politicians want open borders so they can continue cheap labor in America. Think they don't, think again.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Dude in another thread you just gave me an inventory of your guns..what 3 guns....so how many guns do you really have???
i did not give you an inventory. i told you why i needed a gun and i told you why; and which guns i use. i own between 28 and 32 guns in my collection. many have never been taken out of their box.
Dude in another thread you just gave me an inventory of your guns..what 3 guns....so how many guns do you really have???
i did not give you an inventory. i told you why i needed a gun and i told you why; and which guns i use. i own between 28 and 32 guns in my collection. many have never been taken out of their box.
Yeah the everyday American doesn't want this but the politicians want open borders so they can continue cheap labor in America. Think they don't, think again.
Peace
let's have open borders; then we can go to canada for free healthcare.
let's have open borders; then we can go to canada for free healthcare.
so america doesnt have free healthcare? what a fucked up nation that is... lets spend 37 quintiliion on bombing Afghiniraqistan but fuck all the actual people who might need a plaster cast, or a lung operation, fuck em... cos those poor people dont own oil..
signed Dunk
free health care
free dentists
free eye tests
free cancer treatment
freeeeedom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
so america doesnt have free healthcare? what a fucked up nation that is... lets spend 37 quintiliion on bombing Afghiniraqistan but fuck all the actual people who might need a plaster cast, or a lung operation, fuck em... cos those poor people dont own oil..
signed Dunk
free health care
free dentists
free eye tests
free cancer treatment
freeeeedom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yeah scotland - bunch of skirt wearing fairies...maybe we'll bomb y'alls asses next
Ok, I am back from shopping.
Gooooood Debate. But....I am still right.
LOL.
For those of you who are American here, Arn't you bothered by the fact that by the time your great grand kids are adults, its quite possible that they will be living in a world where no one is a white american?
That is not racist either. I know that is coming, I just do not want my race to disappear. I am as proud of my race any other.
And...a lot of people coming here do not want to live in "AMERICA", they want to bring their country here. Example. Last year when they had all the fighting about illigal immagrants having rights....they did not hold up American Flags.....they held up their own flag!!!! Totally disrespectful! If you wanna be considered american then show us by holding up american flags!
I saw a legal mexican guy who owns a store in america flying a Mexican flag Over a American flag.
You people who do not agree with me are fucking nuts!!!!!
Fucking nuts!!!!
One day you will wake up and English will not even be the native language here.....mark my words!
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
The United States is a nation of immigrants. it was built on immigrants, unless you are native american, you are a descendant of immigrants. Deal with it. You're the land of the free.
Sit pretty in London, You have no idea how to understand this b/ c you do not live here. Your opinion does not matter here.
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
Ok, I am back from shopping.
Gooooood Debate. But....I am still right.
LOL.
For those of you who are American here, Arn't you bothered by the fact that by the time your great grand kids are adults, its quite possible that they will be living in a world where no one is a white american?
That is not racist either. I know that is coming, I just do not want my race to disappear. I am as proud of my race any other.
And...a lot of people coming here do not want to live in "AMERICA", they want to bring their country here. Example. Last year when they had all the fighting about illigal immagrants having rights....they did not hold up American Flags.....they held up their own flag!!!! Totally disrespectful! If you wanna be considered american then show us by holding up american flags!
I saw a legal mexican guy who owns a store in america flying a Mexican flag Over a American flag.
You people who do not agree with me are fucking nuts!!!!!
Fucking nuts!!!!
One day you will wake up and English will not even be the native language here.....mark my words!
i don't think it's racist. hell; we have black history month but nothing for white history. that's racist. we give scholorships to minorities but block whites; that's racist. we have the negro college fund which forbids whites; that's racist. but being proud of your heritage is never racist.
the arizona constitution makes english the official language of the state. we're ahead of the game.
i don't think it's racist. hell; we have black history month but nothing for white history. that's racist. we give scholorships to minorities but block whites; that's racist. we have the negro college fund which forbids whites; that's racist. but being proud of your heritage is never racist.
the arizona constitution makes english the official language of the state. we're ahead of the game.
i agree - if blacks and others want to be treated "color blind" quit bringing up color
let's start with Point a. first off, i am not shouting how rich i am but if i was does that give permission for people to break laws. you can say we must change the law and that's fine.
point b. what does that have to do with "illegal" immigrants. i don't think we should hire "illegal" immigrants.
point c. yet again what does this have to do with "illegal" immigrants.
we should be fighting for people who have come "legally" for those things.
we should also work with different countries so that they may provide those items to their citizens
a) if you keep bangin on about it (like your country does), you're bound to piss off people (like you would be)
b and c) I'm not talking about legal or illegal..I'm talking about the people in Mexico that do the cheap work for American companies or consumers..if they got paid better, they wouldn't feel the NEED to go to the US, legally or illegally.
but you can also raise the question of what % of the population are Illegal?
well, as I understand it there's a much larger % of prison population of African American origin than their general population %..they're not illegal immigrants, they're descendants of forced immigrants...
maybe that's because the chances of ending up in prison has much more to do with your socio-economical and race (as in racist) circumstances..
Ok, I am back from shopping.
Gooooood Debate. But....I am still right.
LOL.
For those of you who are American here, Arn't you bothered by the fact that by the time your great grand kids are adults, its quite possible that they will be living in a world where no one is a white american?
That is not racist either. I know that is coming, I just do not want my race to disappear. I am as proud of my race any other.
And...a lot of people coming here do not want to live in "AMERICA", they want to bring their country here. Example. Last year when they had all the fighting about illigal immagrants having rights....they did not hold up American Flags.....they held up their own flag!!!! Totally disrespectful! If you wanna be considered american then show us by holding up american flags!
I saw a legal mexican guy who owns a store in america flying a Mexican flag Over a American flag.
You people who do not agree with me are fucking nuts!!!!!
Fucking nuts!!!!
One day you will wake up and English will not even be the native language here.....mark my words!
:eek: what you're saying is the very definition of racism! I hope you have no Italian, Irish or any other non WASP english origins..because by your standards, your ancestors would never have been allowed in your country for you to be born!
Sit pretty in London, You have no idea how to understand this b/ c you do not live here. Your opinion does not matter here.
yeah, because we have no immigration despite being the most ethnically and linguistically varied City on earth!
and that includes illegal one, because YOU CAN'T AVOID IT!
even poor countries have illegal immigration and refugees because there's always someone in an even shittier situation than you trying to escape it!
the only reason YOU don't have an opinion on UK or Euro affairs is being so self-centred, you know fuck all about them.
ok, you collect antics and the like..why would you need to have them loaded? (or even have ammunitions?)
only 3 are kept loaded. an unloaded gun is worthless.
i try to keep at least 1000 rounds of ammunition for each gun on hand; except my assault rifle. i keep 5000 rounds.
Ok, I am back from shopping.
Gooooood Debate. But....I am still right.
LOL.
For those of you who are American here, Arn't you bothered by the fact that by the time your great grand kids are adults, its quite possible that they will be living in a world where no one is a white american?
That is not racist either. I know that is coming, I just do not want my race to disappear. I am as proud of my race any other.
And...a lot of people coming here do not want to live in "AMERICA", they want to bring their country here. Example. Last year when they had all the fighting about illigal immagrants having rights....they did not hold up American Flags.....they held up their own flag!!!! Totally disrespectful! If you wanna be considered american then show us by holding up american flags!
I saw a legal mexican guy who owns a store in america flying a Mexican flag Over a American flag.
You people who do not agree with me are fucking nuts!!!!!
Fucking nuts!!!!
One day you will wake up and English will not even be the native language here.....mark my words!
:rolleyes:
considering that each generation is considered to last 20 years, i'm pretty damn sure that 40 or so years from now white people will still be fucking alot of other white people....
only 3 are kept loaded. an unloaded gun is worthless.
i try to keep at least 1000 rounds of ammunition for each gun on hand; except my assault rifle. i keep 5000 rounds.
:eek: what could you POSSIBLY need all that for? waging your own war?
and an unloaded gun isn't worthless if as you were trying to pretend as an excuse for having so many you're a collector..
:eek: what could you POSSIBLY need all that for? waging your own war?
and an unloaded gun isn't worthless if as you were trying to pretend as an excuse for having so many you're a collector..
why do you ask questions you won't listen to the answers to?
you're mind is made up and your opinion won't change. i take that back; your opinion will change. give it about 5 years. as the ice melts and the seas rise; the thames will swollow london and your population will be compressed into smaller and smaller areas; you'll be trying to defend your food with a kitchen knife.
to answer the original question; illegals tax our social services; healthcare; and public services to the breaking point. we can never have universal healthcare until our borders are closed and the the 15 million illegals here; sent home. the illegals can't get insurance and when they get sick or injured; the hospitals can't turn them away. except maybe arizona. here it's a jailable offence to give aid to an illegal. the thing is; they don't pay the bill.
maybe if we wrote on the south side of the wall
PACO GO HOME maybe they'll get the hint.
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let's start with Point a. first off, i am not shouting how rich i am but if i was does that give permission for people to break laws. you can say we must change the law and that's fine.
point b. what does that have to do with "illegal" immigrants. i don't think we should hire "illegal" immigrants.
point c. yet again what does this have to do with "illegal" immigrants.
we should be fighting for people who have come "legally" for those things.
we should also work with different countries so that they may provide those items to their citizens
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
exactly. that's why all this paranoia about how illegals are ruining everything in the US is just absurd.
angels share laughter
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but you can also raise the question of what % of the population are Illeagl?
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
now does anyone know what the real numbers are? it's not as if they sign in as they cross the border
at least with the jail/prison population they can check the inmate's citizen status
angels share laughter
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can i give it back to a native canadian indian. i stole from them.
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
True there is a larger citizen population than there is an illegal one but from the info I have found the percentages are about the same. 3.1% of US citizens are in prison while 3% of the roughly 15 million illegals in this country are in prison. So by those numbers illegals are no more or less violent or inclined to commit a crime than a citizen would be.
Yeah the everyday American doesn't want this but the politicians want open borders so they can continue cheap labor in America. Think they don't, think again.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Yeah the everyday American doesn't want this but the politicians want open borders so they can continue cheap labor in America. Think they don't, think again.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
i did not give you an inventory. i told you why i needed a gun and i told you why; and which guns i use. i own between 28 and 32 guns in my collection. many have never been taken out of their box.
i did not give you an inventory. i told you why i needed a gun and i told you why; and which guns i use. i own between 28 and 32 guns in my collection. many have never been taken out of their box.
let's have open borders; then we can go to canada for free healthcare.
so america doesnt have free healthcare? what a fucked up nation that is... lets spend 37 quintiliion on bombing Afghiniraqistan but fuck all the actual people who might need a plaster cast, or a lung operation, fuck em... cos those poor people dont own oil..
signed Dunk
free health care
free dentists
free eye tests
free cancer treatment
freeeeedom!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yeah scotland - bunch of skirt wearing fairies...maybe we'll bomb y'alls asses next
let's send them the 15 million illegals we have here. that'll put an end to their free healthcare.
they heard the sheep fucking is pretty good over there
Gooooood Debate. But....I am still right.
LOL.
For those of you who are American here, Arn't you bothered by the fact that by the time your great grand kids are adults, its quite possible that they will be living in a world where no one is a white american?
That is not racist either. I know that is coming, I just do not want my race to disappear. I am as proud of my race any other.
And...a lot of people coming here do not want to live in "AMERICA", they want to bring their country here. Example. Last year when they had all the fighting about illigal immagrants having rights....they did not hold up American Flags.....they held up their own flag!!!! Totally disrespectful! If you wanna be considered american then show us by holding up american flags!
I saw a legal mexican guy who owns a store in america flying a Mexican flag Over a American flag.
You people who do not agree with me are fucking nuts!!!!!
Fucking nuts!!!!
One day you will wake up and English will not even be the native language here.....mark my words!
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
Sit pretty in London, You have no idea how to understand this b/ c you do not live here. Your opinion does not matter here.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
i don't think it's racist. hell; we have black history month but nothing for white history. that's racist. we give scholorships to minorities but block whites; that's racist. we have the negro college fund which forbids whites; that's racist. but being proud of your heritage is never racist.
the arizona constitution makes english the official language of the state. we're ahead of the game.
i agree - if blacks and others want to be treated "color blind" quit bringing up color
i've never understood that. i think when i die i should donate my estate for scholorships for whites only.
a) if you keep bangin on about it (like your country does), you're bound to piss off people (like you would be)
b and c) I'm not talking about legal or illegal..I'm talking about the people in Mexico that do the cheap work for American companies or consumers..if they got paid better, they wouldn't feel the NEED to go to the US, legally or illegally. well, as I understand it there's a much larger % of prison population of African American origin than their general population %..they're not illegal immigrants, they're descendants of forced immigrants...
maybe that's because the chances of ending up in prison has much more to do with your socio-economical and race (as in racist) circumstances.. :eek: what you're saying is the very definition of racism! I hope you have no Italian, Irish or any other non WASP english origins..because by your standards, your ancestors would never have been allowed in your country for you to be born! yeah, because we have no immigration despite being the most ethnically and linguistically varied City on earth!
and that includes illegal one, because YOU CAN'T AVOID IT!
even poor countries have illegal immigration and refugees because there's always someone in an even shittier situation than you trying to escape it!
the only reason YOU don't have an opinion on UK or Euro affairs is being so self-centred, you know fuck all about them.
only 3 are kept loaded. an unloaded gun is worthless.
i try to keep at least 1000 rounds of ammunition for each gun on hand; except my assault rifle. i keep 5000 rounds.
:rolleyes:
considering that each generation is considered to last 20 years, i'm pretty damn sure that 40 or so years from now white people will still be fucking alot of other white people....
angels share laughter
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and an unloaded gun isn't worthless if as you were trying to pretend as an excuse for having so many you're a collector..
sorry but you guys are nuts..and scary! http://www.pjbootstrading.org/forum/images/smiles/cavapas.gif
why do you ask questions you won't listen to the answers to?
you're mind is made up and your opinion won't change. i take that back; your opinion will change. give it about 5 years. as the ice melts and the seas rise; the thames will swollow london and your population will be compressed into smaller and smaller areas; you'll be trying to defend your food with a kitchen knife.
maybe if we wrote on the south side of the wall
PACO GO HOME maybe they'll get the hint.