I 'm confused on what you all think?
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It seems to me that most of you here are for protecting illegal immigrants??
Is this the case?
We should greet them with open arms?
I am sure there has been big talks in here about it but I was not apart of them so I would like to know where you stand.
I can not believe any American would want to just allow anyone on this planet just walk in and out of here like its some God Damn Public Restroom!
Is this the case?
We should greet them with open arms?
I am sure there has been big talks in here about it but I was not apart of them so I would like to know where you stand.
I can not believe any American would want to just allow anyone on this planet just walk in and out of here like its some God Damn Public Restroom!
Get em a Body Bag Yeeeeeaaaaa!
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Sweep the Leg Johnny.
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illegal immigrants have become the conservatives scapegoats de jour for everything that is wrong with this country. a few years ago it was gays that wanted to marry, before that it was single mothers. they ALWAYS must have a scapegoat that has no political power in which to blame all of this countries ills on, instead of focusing on the real issues that confront the US.
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Yep.
The country you are born here is a matter of sheer luck.
We sustain our lifestyle at the expense of the rest of the world.
Certainly there are logistic problems in "welcoming everyone with open arms". But really there is nothing to be so self-righteous about.
you're an immigrant
while i agree with you about who picks our food for $3, i wonder if you don't think that people breaking laws is a real issue.
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but is he a legal immigrant?
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
illegals should be shot for the invaders they are. try sneeking into mexico. you'll be shot.
But honestly, the US is made up of immigrants so I find it all very amusing. There are great problems in the US than illegals. On the plus side, the eventual collapse of the US economy should help to stem the flow of illegals- so it won't be a lose-lose for you at least.
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from his posts of late; he'd like to pick and choose which laws should be respected and followed.
i'd say who picks veggies for $3.00/hour and upsets our economy when the minimum wage is much higher. not only do we have the crime of invading another country; we now have employers committing crimes in the name of profits. if that employer is allowed to break laws for their own profits; why shouldn't i as an employer? our state has strict laws against hiring illegals. they include high fines and losing your business license.
i'd also like to ask; who thinks it's fair to pay a human being such low wages? how can you be proud to say we can pay them slave wages?
Thank god the Native Americans where not this ignorant or none of us would be here.
then go after the business and farm owners that hire them. but the government and people can look the other way if it "might hurt businesses" so there's no law against that.
it's against the law to go over the speed limit does every one that does get caught and ticketed? it's against the law to smoke cigarettes in public in most places...do we lock up smokers? it's a against the law to lie on your tax forms...it's against the law to run a red light. see where i'm going with this? in the grand scheme of things these laws are for the most part irrelavant, as is the issue of illegal immigration when it comes down to addressing the real problems in the US.
but lets but the blame on those that have no political power, those have no voice or lobbiest in DC....because making them the scapegoats for everything makes for a convient distraction from having to come up with any real answers
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Yea, I know.
But the immigrants who came here did it to start a "club".
The club grew to be something big and beautiful. Now everyone wants to join. There are to many members right now and we need to get things under control for a little while. Then continue to let immigrants in LEGALLY!
And as for the workers....I know there are many who work here that are honest and good. But thats not the issue here.
It's not ok for the message to be "come one come all" in the world that we live in today! Our world will most certanly change for the worst, and that scares me when I think about my daughter.
The hard working ones will walk right in with the bad ones right behind them.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
Right and proceed to shoot up your schools, shopping malls, campuses, post offices... oh wait.
Again, look to the inside to find the problems that most need solving.
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what? members of my family died waiting to immigrate here legally. how would you feel if you waited overnight at the ticket office to get tickets for a PJ concert; then when the window opened; a bunch of people walked up and got in line ahead of you? now add that when you got to the window; the concert was sold out.
we have laws and rules so everyone has an equal chance. we also have rules for punishing those who don't follow the rules. if we're not going to follow our own laws; then throw all the laws away. they're not worth the paper they're written on.
You baffle me.
I agree we need to fix the problems inside. but how are we to do that if there is no inside????
Inside of what? You obviously think we should not have boarders so where does the inside start and the outside begin??
Make no mistake about it.....this is a huge part of the INSIDE problem.
I'm going shopping.
Sweep the Leg Johnny.
That's disgusting, man. Does everyone have to die? I think it's mighty hypocritical of you that you take such an attitude.
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what i say to all your fine examples is yoru right, all laws should be enforced. by the way, do we lock up smokers no we lock them out.
finally, what are these real problems that you keep talking about.
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If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)
Because that's what's happening now? Seriously though, you have elected goverment officials at every level. Accountability only works when the people holds these officials accountable. If illegal immigration is such a problem for you then speak up to your elected officials. It seems like this is something that the left understands, which is why they don't have the need to blame those who are doing whatever they can to improve their and their families lives. The right on the other hand would just as well take the law into their own hands and what was that? Shoot them? Right. This is where your conservative and imperialist government has lead you to though, so I can understand not having the faith in said government to actually deal with the situation properly.
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he is 'legal' but legal is just a word... like floppy and mollusc... but the US was built on immigrants legal or illegal... so why be so fearful.
is everyone in America scared? i need guns incase bad men come after me.. i need big fences incase Jesus and Carlos steal all our women... i need the worlds largest Navy, Army and Airforce even though we've been attacked once on our shores, and that was in Hawaii...
why all the fear?
and when are we full? who decides when we have too many people? is it when we can't feed the people we have? is it when unemployment reaches a level where those working cannot support those who cannot find work? is it when the police can no longer control crime? is it when social security can no longer repay the people that have paid into the system their entire working life? or is it when the burden of welfare on the government exceeds the funds the government can raise.
when do we stop?
How do I think you should have no borders? If anything the US should have more borders and adopt as isolationist a policy as possible.
The point is that it isn't the illegals who come into your country and open fire. It's your friends, family and neighbours- it's the voilent, pscyhotic culture that is adored by the country. You could magically remove every last illegal immigrant in the US and still be up to your eyes in the shit that's left. So again- there are bigger problems at pretty much every level within the US that you all should be worrying about as opposed to the illegal immigrants.
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And what is wrong with that. Are some of you that terrified of the US no longer being an Anglo Caucasian majority country.
BINGO!
Haven't you heard? The US of A is the greatest country in the world.
So of course everyone, from outside the Yanks borders to outside their homes, is out to get a piece of the American Dream.
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let's let more people in so we're too overwelmed to fix those problems.
Well that is truely sad. This country was built on the backs of immigrants. I understand the desire to make sure that all entry is done through legal channels, but to fear the fact that the diverse make up of our country may switch is ridiculous. So what if the majority of people in the US will eventually be hispanics. As long as they are hard working and contribute to the growth and well being of the nation I see nothing wrong with that. Hispanics are a growing political, economic and social force in this country so you and the rest of the xenophobic bunch best get used to us being here.
I have always fel that hispanics where being singled out in regards to illegal immigration. Yes they make up the majority of illegals in this country, but there are millions of illegals that come into this country from Asia, Africa, Europe, and even Canada. Yet we never see an image or even a mention of these people when the topic of illegal immigrantion is discussed.
Mammasan, I'm sorry to say this but I think the answer is definitely yes. Same here in Europe (not exactly the same, though).
This just shows that some people do not see people with a different skin colour as equals. It shows racism.
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it's not fearful, it is respect of laws. everythging that i have been saying is conc3rning the issue that people believe that laws don't matter or not important. i would hav eno problem with "illegal" immigrants staying but we must follow the law.
by the way, do you lock your door, wear a seatbelt? we all do things to protect ourselves. it's not about fear always.
- Soren Aabye Kierkegaard (1813-1855)
If you haven't got anything nice to say about anybody, come sit next to me."
- Alice Roosevelt Longworth (1884-1980)