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  • eMMIeMMI Posts: 6,262

    thanks for the link. :)

    enjoy our beautiful capital! :D
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • U-R wrote:
    hehe nevermind, i dont think an american would understand what i said either, but an englishman/woman probably would.

    i'll explain. i thought somebody was playing a joke on him/her. it's an informal saying, if somebody is "having a lend of you" or maybe "taking you for a ride" they're playing a joke on you

    Hmm. Even I didn't follow that one. Are you sure you didn't pick that up in Canada?

    Emmi. What about cats? Do you have these damn stray cats wandering around everywhere like they seem to have all around the Mediterranean? I hate the mongrel bastards. They fight and yowl and carry on all night long.
    It doesn't matter if you're male, female, or confused; black, white, brown, red, green, yellow; gay, lesbian; redneck cop, stoned; ugly; military style, doggy style; fat, rich or poor; vegetarian or cannibal; bum, hippie, virgin; famous or drunk-you're either an asshole or you're not!

    -C Addison
  • U-RU-R Posts: 223
    Scubascott wrote:
    Hmm. Even I didn't follow that one. Are you sure you didn't pick that up in Canada?

    nope, common phrase amongst folk i know "having a lend of ya"... basically a toned down way of saying "taking the piss"
    if you love somebody, set them free. if somebody loves you, don't fuck up
  • U-R wrote:
    nope, common phrase amongst folk i know "having a lend of ya"... basically a toned down way of saying "taking the piss"

    Must be a victorian thing. Bloody mexicans.
    It doesn't matter if you're male, female, or confused; black, white, brown, red, green, yellow; gay, lesbian; redneck cop, stoned; ugly; military style, doggy style; fat, rich or poor; vegetarian or cannibal; bum, hippie, virgin; famous or drunk-you're either an asshole or you're not!

    -C Addison
  • U-RU-R Posts: 223
    Scubascott wrote:
    Must be a victorian thing. Bloody mexicans.

    lol you're a sydney boy i take it?
    if you love somebody, set them free. if somebody loves you, don't fuck up
  • U-R wrote:
    lol you're a sydney boy i take it?

    No way! That'd be as bad as being a mexican. I grew up in rural NSW.
    It doesn't matter if you're male, female, or confused; black, white, brown, red, green, yellow; gay, lesbian; redneck cop, stoned; ugly; military style, doggy style; fat, rich or poor; vegetarian or cannibal; bum, hippie, virgin; famous or drunk-you're either an asshole or you're not!

    -C Addison
  • eMMIeMMI Posts: 6,262
    Scubascott wrote:
    Emmi. What about cats? Do you have these damn stray cats wandering around everywhere like they seem to have all around the Mediterranean? I hate the mongrel bastards. They fight and yowl and carry on all night long.

    there's some amount of stray cats here but basically they're not that big of a probelm. they haven't formed some sorta societies or anything..

    I love cats! :D

    one problem here is that people tend to take cats as pets in summertime when they're spending time in their summer cabins but then they abandon the cats when fall comes. :(

    there are cats that wander around here at nights, fighting and yowling but they often belong to someone and are just out for a walk. :)
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • eMMI wrote:
    there's some amount of stray cats here but basically they're not that big of a probelm. they haven't formed some sorta societies or anything..

    I love cats! :D

    one problem here is that people tend to take cats as pets in summertime when they're spending time in their summer cabins but then they abandon the cats when fall comes. :(

    there are cats that wander around here at nights, fighting and yowling but they often belong to someone and are just out for a walk. :)

    No cat is ever 'just out for a walk'. They're out hunting innocent little birds and lizards, or plotting and scheming for the day when they'll rise up over the humans that they consider so inferior.

    Sometimes I think there are more cats in this country than people. The other day I was walking home and heard this plaintive crying coming from the bushes in the middle of the big fish pond near the local kenyon (shopping centre). I was almost about to take my boots off and wade across the pond to rescue the poor baby that had somehow fallen into the bushes when it started making other, more cat-like sounds.
    It doesn't matter if you're male, female, or confused; black, white, brown, red, green, yellow; gay, lesbian; redneck cop, stoned; ugly; military style, doggy style; fat, rich or poor; vegetarian or cannibal; bum, hippie, virgin; famous or drunk-you're either an asshole or you're not!

    -C Addison
  • eMMIeMMI Posts: 6,262
    Scubascott wrote:
    No cat is ever 'just out for a walk'. They're out hunting innocent little birds and lizards, or plotting and scheming for the day when they'll rise up over the humans that they consider so inferior.

    Sometimes I think there are more cats in this country than people. The other day I was walking home and heard this plaintive crying coming from the bushes in the middle of the big fish pond near the local kenyon (shopping centre). I was almost about to take my boots off and wade across the pond to rescue the poor baby that had somehow fallen into the bushes when it started making other, more cat-like sounds.

    aww come on, how can you not love cats! they're so cute! :D lol.

    if the cats wouldn't be hunting them something else would..
    but I get your point. luckily our pretty boycat is a housecat, never goes out without supervision. :)

    cats do sound a bit scary sometimes. human-like, but still so.. spooky. :eek:
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • eMMI wrote:
    aww come on, how can you not love cats! they're so cute! :D lol.

    if the cats wouldn't be hunting them something else would..
    but I get your point. luckily our pretty boycat is a housecat, never goes out without supervision. :)

    cats do sound a bit scary sometimes. human-like, but still so.. spooky. :eek:

    Nope, they're scum. Nothing will ever convince me otherwise.

    Do all Finns speak good english? When they start teaching you english at school?
    It doesn't matter if you're male, female, or confused; black, white, brown, red, green, yellow; gay, lesbian; redneck cop, stoned; ugly; military style, doggy style; fat, rich or poor; vegetarian or cannibal; bum, hippie, virgin; famous or drunk-you're either an asshole or you're not!

    -C Addison
  • U-RU-R Posts: 223
    Scubascott wrote:
    Nope, they're scum. Nothing will ever convince me otherwise.

    Do all Finns speak good english? When they start teaching you english at school?

    she speaks better english than me by the sounds of it :S
    if you love somebody, set them free. if somebody loves you, don't fuck up
  • U-R wrote:
    she speaks better english than me by the sounds of it :S

    Yeah, and me now that I read back over that last post of mine.

    It amazes me how good people's english is here in Israel. One of the girls I work with really does speak better english than me. She can really express herself in English. She also speaks french.

    In fact everyone else's linguistic abilities make me very jealous. Almost everyone here is fluent in at least two languages (english and hebrew). Then a lot of people are also fluent in a third language like russian, arabic, serbian etc, depending on where their family moved here from. And on top of all that, many of them have a decent working knowledge of spanish and/or portugese, because they travelled in South America, or they're fans of the south american soap operas on TV.

    I feel like a poorly educated cretin with english as my only language (unless you count australian as a seperate language).
    It doesn't matter if you're male, female, or confused; black, white, brown, red, green, yellow; gay, lesbian; redneck cop, stoned; ugly; military style, doggy style; fat, rich or poor; vegetarian or cannibal; bum, hippie, virgin; famous or drunk-you're either an asshole or you're not!

    -C Addison
  • There I go again. Separate. Not seperate.
    It doesn't matter if you're male, female, or confused; black, white, brown, red, green, yellow; gay, lesbian; redneck cop, stoned; ugly; military style, doggy style; fat, rich or poor; vegetarian or cannibal; bum, hippie, virgin; famous or drunk-you're either an asshole or you're not!

    -C Addison
  • eMMIeMMI Posts: 6,262
    Scubascott wrote:
    Nope, they're scum. Nothing will ever convince me otherwise.

    Do all Finns speak good english? When they start teaching you english at school?

    I disagree. but you're entiteled to your opinion. :)

    nope, not all. most Finns know at least a few words of English (must be because of all the TV shows and music..) but obviously everyone can't be good.
    at school English lessons start on the third grade, when the kids are about 10 years old (school starts on the year you turn seven). although at that time (3rd grade) you can also start studying some other launguage (French and some others as choices) but usually not later than in 5th grade you start studying English.
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • eMMIeMMI Posts: 6,262
    U-R wrote:
    she speaks better english than me by the sounds of it :S

    aww. :o thank you. :)
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • eMMI wrote:
    I disagree. but you're entiteled to your opinion. :)

    nope, not all. most Finns know at least a few words of English (must be because of all the TV shows and music..) but obviously everyone can't be good.
    at school English lessons start on the third grade, when the kids are about 10 years old (school starts on the year you turn seven). although at that time (3rd grade) you can also start studying some other launguage (French and some others as choices) but usually not later than in 5th grade you start studying English.

    That's interesting that you start school at seven. At what age do you finnish?

    Ha! Finnish. Get it?
    It doesn't matter if you're male, female, or confused; black, white, brown, red, green, yellow; gay, lesbian; redneck cop, stoned; ugly; military style, doggy style; fat, rich or poor; vegetarian or cannibal; bum, hippie, virgin; famous or drunk-you're either an asshole or you're not!

    -C Addison
  • eMMIeMMI Posts: 6,262
    Scubascott wrote:
    Yeah, and me now that I read back over that last post of mine.

    thanks to you too. :)
    Scubascott wrote:
    It amazes me how good people's english is here in Israel. One of the girls I work with really does speak better english than me. She can really express herself in English. She also speaks french.

    In fact everyone else's linguistic abilities make me very jealous. Almost everyone here is fluent in at least two languages (english and hebrew). Then a lot of people are also fluent in a third language like russian, arabic, serbian etc, depending on where their family moved here from. And on top of all that, many of them have a decent working knowledge of spanish and/or portugese, because they travelled in South America, or they're fans of the south american soap operas on TV.

    I feel like a poorly educated cretin with english as my only language (unless you count australian as a seperate language).

    well, just learn some other language. :)
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • eMMI wrote:
    thanks to you too. :)



    well, just learn some other language. :)

    I think being a native english speaker is a severe disability.

    People from most educated non-english speaking countries get taught english at school, so straight away they get practice speaking another language, and warm up that part of their brain for more languages later.

    I've been in this country for four and a half months, and I've hardly learned any hebrew, because the moment I try to use the little bit I know, the person I'm talking to hears my accent and automatically switches to english. I never get to practice.
    It doesn't matter if you're male, female, or confused; black, white, brown, red, green, yellow; gay, lesbian; redneck cop, stoned; ugly; military style, doggy style; fat, rich or poor; vegetarian or cannibal; bum, hippie, virgin; famous or drunk-you're either an asshole or you're not!

    -C Addison
  • eMMIeMMI Posts: 6,262
    Scubascott wrote:
    That's interesting that you start school at seven. At what age do you finnish?

    Ha! Finnish. Get it?

    yeah I got it. :)

    when you finish obviously depends on how high education do you want.
    but your learning obligation ends after 9th grade. (when you're about 15 years old) most kids though do go to either trade school or upper secondary school (I chose the latter and I'm on my final year. ) which usually last about three years.
    after that.. it's basically either university (if you can get in) or polytechnic (you can also go to a polytechnic institution after upper secondary). then you finish when you finish. :)
    but some also quit school after trade/upper secondary to get a job or to keep a year off before studying again.
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • eMMIeMMI Posts: 6,262
    Scubascott wrote:
    I think being a native english speaker is a severe disability.

    People from most educated non-english speaking countries get taught english at school, so straight away they get practice speaking another language, and warm up that part of their brain for more languages later.

    I've been in this country for four and a half months, and I've hardly learned any hebrew, because the moment I try to use the little bit I know, the person I'm talking to hears my accent and automatically switches to english. I never get to practice.

    hmh. I've never thought about it like that..

    maybe you could ask them not to switch to English.
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • eMMI wrote:
    hmh. I've never thought about it like that..

    maybe you could ask them not to switch to English.

    Yeah, I'm not stubborn enough. It gets a bit tiresome if all you want to do is get directions of buy groceries and you're constantly saying 'Ma?' (what?) 'Ani lo mevin' (I don't understand). When the person you're talking to knows they can get their message through in english, they prefer to just say it in english, rather than repeat themselves ten times in hebrew.

    I think I also picked a bloody difficult language. Apart from learning words I've had to try to learn a whole new set of vocalisations that don't even exist in english. Mostly guttural sounds like khet and khaf. And the letter equivalent to R, which I barely pronounce with my aussie accent anyway, is pronounced like the french one in 'Paris'. The worst one is ayin. I don't even know how its supposed to sound. Its some sort of catching in the throat.
    It doesn't matter if you're male, female, or confused; black, white, brown, red, green, yellow; gay, lesbian; redneck cop, stoned; ugly; military style, doggy style; fat, rich or poor; vegetarian or cannibal; bum, hippie, virgin; famous or drunk-you're either an asshole or you're not!

    -C Addison
  • eMMIeMMI Posts: 6,262
    Scubascott wrote:
    Yeah, I'm not stubborn enough. It gets a bit tiresome if all you want to do is get directions of buy groceries and you're constantly saying 'Ma?' (what?) 'Ani lo mevin' (I don't understand). When the person you're talking to knows they can get their message through in english, they prefer to just say it in english, rather than repeat themselves ten times in hebrew.

    I think I also picked a bloody difficult language. Apart from learning words I've had to try to learn a whole new set of vocalisations that don't even exist in english. Mostly guttural sounds like khet and khaf. And the letter equivalent to R, which I barely pronounce with my aussie accent anyway, is pronounced like the french one in 'Paris'. The worst one is ayin. I don't even know how its supposed to sound. Its some sort of catching in the throat.

    yeah. :o I understand..

    seems/sounds like you did. but if other people can learn in I'm sure you'll succeed too. :)
    pronunciation is a nervewrecking thing. I might be able to write good English but some words are just impossible to make sound like they're supposed to.. (but I don't actually know how good/bad my pronunciation is..)
    hang on, you'll get it!! :)
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • Is Finland concerned about terrorism? I noticed in Greece that they have very lax security at the airport in Athens. I suppose they consider themselves a small enough, neutral enough country to not feel threatened the way Australia does. I would guess that Finland is probably much the same. What do you think?
    It doesn't matter if you're male, female, or confused; black, white, brown, red, green, yellow; gay, lesbian; redneck cop, stoned; ugly; military style, doggy style; fat, rich or poor; vegetarian or cannibal; bum, hippie, virgin; famous or drunk-you're either an asshole or you're not!

    -C Addison
  • finland wins bronze!!! they beat the US at the world junior hockey tourney 4-2. congrats to the finns! canada plays in the gold medal game later, but i almost don't care now that finland has won the bronze! (...well maybe i do care a little... :) )
  • Just when I was starting to like finland, I found this. . .

    http://www.koff.fi/en/news/brewing_pressreleases/389.html

    :(
    It doesn't matter if you're male, female, or confused; black, white, brown, red, green, yellow; gay, lesbian; redneck cop, stoned; ugly; military style, doggy style; fat, rich or poor; vegetarian or cannibal; bum, hippie, virgin; famous or drunk-you're either an asshole or you're not!

    -C Addison
  • eMMIeMMI Posts: 6,262
    finland wins bronze!!! they beat the US at the world junior hockey tourney 4-2. congrats to the finns! canada plays in the gold medal game later, but i almost don't care now that finland has won the bronze! (...well maybe i do care a little... :) )

    thanks for the info, that's EXCELLENT!!! :D I maybe would've watched the game last night but I was too tired.. :)
    and thanks for the congrats too obviously!

    you almost don't care? :p yeah right, I'm sure you're happy for Finland but come on.. :D
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • eMMIeMMI Posts: 6,262
    Scubascott wrote:
    Is Finland concerned about terrorism? I noticed in Greece that they have very lax security at the airport in Athens. I suppose they consider themselves a small enough, neutral enough country to not feel threatened the way Australia does. I would guess that Finland is probably much the same. What do you think?

    of course there's some concern about terrorism as I think there's in every country nowadays.
    but because we are impartial regarding any military alliances we consider ourselves pretty safe.
    times may change though and there's much discussion about NATO and all that..

    but at the moment terrorism isn't considered as the biggest of threats.
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • eMMIeMMI Posts: 6,262
    Scubascott wrote:
    Just when I was starting to like finland, I found this. . .

    http://www.koff.fi/en/news/brewing_pressreleases/389.html

    :(

    shite! :(

    well.. I dunno what to say. that doesn't make us all bad does it? :(
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
  • eMMI wrote:
    thanks for the info, that's EXCELLENT!!! :D I maybe would've watched the game last night but I was too tired.. :)
    and thanks for the congrats too obviously!

    you almost don't care? :p yeah right, I'm sure you're happy for Finland but come on.. :D

    yeah, you're right i do care...and considering the party that canada had last night it seems like a lot of people cared...canada won the gold medal game 5-0 over the russians. two gold medal wins in a row, and this time in front of the hometown fans! :) ...still elated that finland won a medal though!
  • eMMIeMMI Posts: 6,262
    yeah, you're right i do care...and considering the party that canada had last night it seems like a lot of people cared...canada won the gold medal game 5-0 over the russians. two gold medal wins in a row, and this time in front of the hometown fans! :) ...still elated that finland won a medal though!

    good for Canada then! :D
    I'm glad that you're happy for Finland too. :)
    "Don't be faint-hearted, I have a solution! We shall go and commandeer some small craft, then drift at leisure until we happen upon another ideal place for our waterside supper with riparian entertainments."
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