yea I know it was a crazy insane move that through the will of allah was able to pull off.
but since you dont believe that. what hit the building? where is AA flight 77 ?
lol....Area 51
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Why are you trying to make it sound like people who have questions about the day are conspiracy crazies?
I apologize. I don't mean to make you sound crazy or be an asshole, but it is just too obvious to me what happened that day. I think I am just in a smart ass type of mood. I know there is nothing wrong with asking questions. I do think there are some questions to ask about that day but not the part of whether or not it was planes that hit the buildings or whether buildings were intentionally blown up.
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Why are you trying to make it sound like people who have questions about the day are conspiracy crazies?
I applaud you for questioning the government. its our right and duty to do so. but you or anyone else has yet to provide any evidence that flight 77 DIDNT iot the pentagon besides it was a "impossible move"
Like I just said, I have no idea. It could be in the Pentagon or in the ocean for all I know. I think there's a lot of fishy stuff around the pentagon crash, and I'm not sold 100% on the official story or any conspiracy theory.
Like I just said, I have no idea. It could be in the Pentagon or in the ocean for all I know. I think there's a lot of fishy stuff around the pentagon crash, and I'm not sold 100% on the official story or any conspiracy theory.
people witnessed the plane fly into the building. there is proof out that of it doing so. planes just dont vanish out of thin air. especially one that was getting distress calls for being hijacked. if it flew into the ocean, how can not one single person witness it? or radar pick it up? if you want to talk about logic, then there is no logical answer for where that plane could have gone besides into the side of the penetgon
I applaud you for questioning the government. its our right and duty to do so. but you or anyone else has yet to provide any evidence that flight 77 DIDNT iot the pentagon besides it was a "impossible move"
What proof of a plane hitting do you have?
There's a grainy video of something that looks like a plane. If it were evidence in a trial, I don't think it would hold up because it is so unclear.
There's no marks on the ground of the pentagon, no bodies, or parts from flight 77.
I think those things lead me to believe something is up. I could very well be wrong, as can you, but I am going to leave both options on the table for now.
people witnessed the plane fly into the building. there is proof out that of it doing so. planes just dont vanish out of thin air. especially one that was getting distress calls for being hijacked. if it flew into the ocean, how can not one single person witness it? or radar pick it up? if you want to talk about logic, then there is no logical answer for where that plane could have gone besides into the side of the penetgon
Haven't you heard of the twilight zone..................lol
people witnessed the plane fly into the building. there is proof out that of it doing so. planes just dont vanish out of thin air. especially one that was getting distress calls for being hijacked. if it flew into the ocean, how can not one single person witness it? or radar pick it up? if you want to talk about logic, then there is no logical answer for where that plane could have gone besides into the side of the penetgon
There are also witnesses who say they saw a plane pull up right before the pentagon exploded. Either one of the witnesses could be right. I don't feel like discrediting one witness over another, which is why my jury is still out on this one.
There are also witnesses who say they saw a plane pull up right before the pentagon exploded. Either one of the witnesses could be right. I don't feel like discrediting one witness over another, which is why my jury is still out on this one.
There's a grainy video of something that looks like a plane. If it were evidence in a trial, I don't think it would hold up because it is so unclear.
There's no marks on the ground of the pentagon, no bodies, or parts from flight 77.
I think those things lead me to believe something is up. I could very well be wrong, as can you, but I am going to leave both options on the table for now.
There was a good article in Popular Mechanics I think it was, that went down the list of the conspiracies and gave explanations to everyone of them. I know some people ignore it because the editor of the magazine is a friend or relative of Dick Cheney, but it talks to experts and gets their opinions and goes over some facts. It is a good read to get another point of view.
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There's a grainy video of something that looks like a plane. If it were evidence in a trial, I don't think it would hold up because it is so unclear.
There's no marks on the ground of the pentagon, no bodies, or parts from flight 77.
I think those things lead me to believe something is up. I could very well be wrong, as can you, but I am going to leave both options on the table for now.
I cant find the website but it has pictures of parts of the plane found in the building. I'm not a huge fan of the site because it is created by one guy intending on proving flight 77 hit the building. the site makes a air tight case. IMO course.
There was a good article in Popular Mechanics I think it was, that went down the list of the conspiracies and gave explanations to everyone of them. I know some people ignore it because the editor of the magazine is a friend or relative of Dick Cheney, but it talks to experts and gets their opinions and goes over some facts. It is a good read to get another point of view.
The man that wrote that is the cousin of Michael Chertoff.
The "pull up" theory is that it was a military jet that flew so low and shot a missle. Do I believe it? Not even close. But if someone saw that, and until there is hard evidence that supports one theory over another I am not going to say that person is crazy. If the gov't would release more videos, like from the gas station across the street, it would probably put all this to rest.
I cant find the website but it has pictures of parts of the plane found in the building. I'm not a huge fan of the site because it is created by one guy intending on proving flight 77 hit the building. the site makes a air tight case. IMO course.
I cant find the website but it has pictures of parts of the plane found in the building. I'm not a huge fan of the site because it is created by one guy intending on proving flight 77 hit the building. the site makes a air tight case. IMO course.
That's also why I won't use prison planet, because Jones has an agenda that I don't want to get caught up in. I would like to see facts,not propeganda, and I have seen very little about 9/11.
The man that wrote that is the cousin of Michael Chertoff.
The "pull up" theory is that it was a military jet that flew so low and shot a missle. Do I believe it? Not even close. But if someone saw that, and until there is hard evidence that supports one theory over another I am not going to say that person is crazy. If the gov't would release more videos, like from the gas station across the street, it would probably put all this to rest.
Why won't they do that?
Ahhh that's right, Michael Chertoff. It sounds like you must have read it but it obviously didn't answer all your questions. Right?
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Ahhh that's right, Michael Chertoff. It sounds like you must have read it but it obviously didn't answer all your questions. Right?
Yes, I've read the article. I'm in politics, and if I want a positive spin put on something you go to people you know who will agree with you and put it out. There are "experts" who will prove that what PM claims can be debunked and back and forth. It's all a tennis match going back and forth.
Yes, I've read the article. I'm in politics, and if I want a positive spin put on something you go to people you know who will agree with you and put it out. There are "experts" who will prove that what PM claims can be debunked and back and forth. It's all a tennis match going back and forth.
Can't really argue with that.
But even though we will disagree on this topic there are some things we have in common.
1. Obama in 2008
2. The Office is the best show on TV (guessing you agree by your quote)
3. Pearl Jam kicks ass.
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Can't really argue with that.
But even though we will disagree on this topic there are some things we have in common.
1. Obama in 2008
2. The Office is the best show on TV (guessing you agree by your quote)
3. Pearl Jam kicks ass.
1. Without question, I've worked with him (and might join his Presidential team) and I have a gut feeling he will win the primary.
2. Yes, along with 24
3. They suck...just kidding
just because i posted some link doesnt mean i agree with it but if i did believe the mossad was involved doesnt mean id think that all mosad or jews are bad
what? you think victor o who wrote "by way of deception " who is a jew is a jew hater?
Read the stuff you post. When you post links to conspiracy theorists who blame 9/11 on "zionists" repeatedly, you are making the supremacist argument, even if you did not intend to.
i didnt blame anyone -i just posted that 911 truth seekers dont get along
Veteran MP and former minister Michael Meacher is to announce he will challenge Gordon Brown for leadership of the Labour Party.
The Oldham West MP, who is on the left of the party, had said there should be a contest when Tony Blair steps down.
He has told the BBC he has more backing from MPs than fellow left-winger John McDonnell, who has been planning a leadership bid since last July.
Tony Blair and his deputy John Prescott will step down before next autumn.
Mr Meacher, one of Labour's longest-serving MPs, was environment minister between 1997 and 2003, but has since been a vocal critic of the government.
He has criticised chancellor Gordon Brown, the favourite to take over from Mr Blair, for signalling he would renew Britain's nuclear weapons system.
He has said there had to be " proper debate" about Trident, if not a referendum on the issue.
And he has been an outspoken critic of British foreign policy, as well as a passionate campaigner for more robust action on climate change.
Mr Meacher has told the BBC he is confident he can get the backing of the 44 MPs needed to get on to the ballot.
But Labour MP Stephen Pound said Mr Meacher was a "faintly ridiculous" figure, adding he would be surprised if the veteran left-winger managed to get the required support.
"It's a pity because, frankly, he's going to get humiliated," said the Ealing North MP.
"I suspect he knows that, if he put his ego to one side a bit he would realise that.
"Michael Meacher is a major figure on the British political scene, yet the majority of people I have spoken to, who came into Parliament in the last six or seven years, just said: 'Who?' They didn't know who he was."
BBC political editor Nick Robinson said some Labour MPs would welcome a contest and Gordon Brown himself might prefer a contest to a "coronation", as it would give his leadership more of a mandate.
But he said the Conservatives were bound to use the news to argue that the Labour leadership - and deputy leadership - contests represented a further move to the left for the party.
There has been speculation a senior figure from the Blairite wing of the party, such as Home Secretary John Reid or Environment Secretary David Miliband would mount a leadership bid.
But so far no heavyweight contender has emerged to challenge Mr Brown.
Candidates for the deputy leadership have been more forthcoming, with Mr Hain, Hilary Benn, John Cruddas, Alan Johnson and Harriet Harman have all declared their ambitions to take over from John Prescott.
Mr Meacher's spokesman said he would be making a statement on the leadership in Westminster at noon.
1. Without question, I've worked with him (and might join his Presidential team) and I have a gut feeling he will win the primary.
2. Yes, along with 24
3. They suck...just kidding
i have nothing against black people. i've been called a nig** lover enough times that i shouldn't be labeled here.
but the fact remains that we will not have a black president. there's too many "good ole boys" who won't have it. not to mention the arian nation that the mafia considers untouchable. add in the nazis and white supremasists and it'll never happen.
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I really have no idea what hit it, but I don't see a untrained pilot being able to execute those moves. There is just no logic to it.
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lol....Area 51
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Why are you trying to make it sound like people who have questions about the day are conspiracy crazies?
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ok where is flight 77?
I apologize. I don't mean to make you sound crazy or be an asshole, but it is just too obvious to me what happened that day. I think I am just in a smart ass type of mood. I know there is nothing wrong with asking questions. I do think there are some questions to ask about that day but not the part of whether or not it was planes that hit the buildings or whether buildings were intentionally blown up.
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Like I just said, I have no idea. It could be in the Pentagon or in the ocean for all I know. I think there's a lot of fishy stuff around the pentagon crash, and I'm not sold 100% on the official story or any conspiracy theory.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
people witnessed the plane fly into the building. there is proof out that of it doing so. planes just dont vanish out of thin air. especially one that was getting distress calls for being hijacked. if it flew into the ocean, how can not one single person witness it? or radar pick it up? if you want to talk about logic, then there is no logical answer for where that plane could have gone besides into the side of the penetgon
What proof of a plane hitting do you have?
There's a grainy video of something that looks like a plane. If it were evidence in a trial, I don't think it would hold up because it is so unclear.
There's no marks on the ground of the pentagon, no bodies, or parts from flight 77.
I think those things lead me to believe something is up. I could very well be wrong, as can you, but I am going to leave both options on the table for now.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
There are also witnesses who say they saw a plane pull up right before the pentagon exploded. Either one of the witnesses could be right. I don't feel like discrediting one witness over another, which is why my jury is still out on this one.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
a plane pull up? and then what? left the area?
There was a good article in Popular Mechanics I think it was, that went down the list of the conspiracies and gave explanations to everyone of them. I know some people ignore it because the editor of the magazine is a friend or relative of Dick Cheney, but it talks to experts and gets their opinions and goes over some facts. It is a good read to get another point of view.
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I cant find the website but it has pictures of parts of the plane found in the building. I'm not a huge fan of the site because it is created by one guy intending on proving flight 77 hit the building. the site makes a air tight case. IMO course.
The man that wrote that is the cousin of Michael Chertoff.
The "pull up" theory is that it was a military jet that flew so low and shot a missle. Do I believe it? Not even close. But if someone saw that, and until there is hard evidence that supports one theory over another I am not going to say that person is crazy. If the gov't would release more videos, like from the gas station across the street, it would probably put all this to rest.
Why won't they do that?
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_pentagon_eyewitnesses.html
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1
That's also why I won't use prison planet, because Jones has an agenda that I don't want to get caught up in. I would like to see facts,not propeganda, and I have seen very little about 9/11.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
yup here it is
Ahhh that's right, Michael Chertoff. It sounds like you must have read it but it obviously didn't answer all your questions. Right?
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Yes, I've read the article. I'm in politics, and if I want a positive spin put on something you go to people you know who will agree with you and put it out. There are "experts" who will prove that what PM claims can be debunked and back and forth. It's all a tennis match going back and forth.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
Can't really argue with that.
But even though we will disagree on this topic there are some things we have in common.
1. Obama in 2008
2. The Office is the best show on TV (guessing you agree by your quote)
3. Pearl Jam kicks ass.
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Birmingham '98
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1. Without question, I've worked with him (and might join his Presidential team) and I have a gut feeling he will win the primary.
2. Yes, along with 24
3. They suck...just kidding
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
what? you think victor o who wrote "by way of deception " who is a jew is a jew hater?
http://groups.msn.com/PearlJamNirvana/messages.msnw
i didnt blame anyone -i just posted that 911 truth seekers dont get along
get a life -read the post for what it is
http://groups.msn.com/PearlJamNirvana/messages.msnw
sorry but your post was too clouded with hate speech I couldn't get to the content
http://www.amazon.co.uk/New-Pearl-Harbor-Disturbing-Administration/dp/1844370364/sr=8-1/qid=1172144232/ref=sr_1_1/026-3957739-6738014?ie=UTF8&s=books
Maybe we'll get the truth at last??
Thursday, 22 February 2007, 11:22 GMT
Meacher enters Labour leader race
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6385285.stm
Veteran MP and former minister Michael Meacher is to announce he will challenge Gordon Brown for leadership of the Labour Party.
The Oldham West MP, who is on the left of the party, had said there should be a contest when Tony Blair steps down.
He has told the BBC he has more backing from MPs than fellow left-winger John McDonnell, who has been planning a leadership bid since last July.
Tony Blair and his deputy John Prescott will step down before next autumn.
Mr Meacher, one of Labour's longest-serving MPs, was environment minister between 1997 and 2003, but has since been a vocal critic of the government.
He has criticised chancellor Gordon Brown, the favourite to take over from Mr Blair, for signalling he would renew Britain's nuclear weapons system.
He has said there had to be " proper debate" about Trident, if not a referendum on the issue.
And he has been an outspoken critic of British foreign policy, as well as a passionate campaigner for more robust action on climate change.
Mr Meacher has told the BBC he is confident he can get the backing of the 44 MPs needed to get on to the ballot.
But Labour MP Stephen Pound said Mr Meacher was a "faintly ridiculous" figure, adding he would be surprised if the veteran left-winger managed to get the required support.
"It's a pity because, frankly, he's going to get humiliated," said the Ealing North MP.
"I suspect he knows that, if he put his ego to one side a bit he would realise that.
"Michael Meacher is a major figure on the British political scene, yet the majority of people I have spoken to, who came into Parliament in the last six or seven years, just said: 'Who?' They didn't know who he was."
BBC political editor Nick Robinson said some Labour MPs would welcome a contest and Gordon Brown himself might prefer a contest to a "coronation", as it would give his leadership more of a mandate.
But he said the Conservatives were bound to use the news to argue that the Labour leadership - and deputy leadership - contests represented a further move to the left for the party.
There has been speculation a senior figure from the Blairite wing of the party, such as Home Secretary John Reid or Environment Secretary David Miliband would mount a leadership bid.
But so far no heavyweight contender has emerged to challenge Mr Brown.
Candidates for the deputy leadership have been more forthcoming, with Mr Hain, Hilary Benn, John Cruddas, Alan Johnson and Harriet Harman have all declared their ambitions to take over from John Prescott.
Mr Meacher's spokesman said he would be making a statement on the leadership in Westminster at noon.
you lie like a worm about my personal character and make me want to leave this forum
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then stick up for yourself and get the hell out of here
i have nothing against black people. i've been called a nig** lover enough times that i shouldn't be labeled here.
but the fact remains that we will not have a black president. there's too many "good ole boys" who won't have it. not to mention the arian nation that the mafia considers untouchable. add in the nazis and white supremasists and it'll never happen.