911 truth seekers argue among themselves

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  • godpt3godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    These crazies drive me nuts. They have ZERO evidence to back up their claims and everything they say is utter giberish of second-hand claims.

    They're just as bad, if not worse, than the evangelicals who deny evolution.
    "If all those sweet, young things were laid end to end, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised."
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  • as appossed to the governments story, who's story is full of iron clad evidence.
  • godpt3godpt3 Posts: 1,020
    as appossed to the governments story, who's story is full of iron clad evidence.

    I'm pretty sure the wreckage of 3 airliners trumps anything the conspiracy theorists can produce.
    "If all those sweet, young things were laid end to end, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised."
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  • they tell us a big plane hit the pentagon and yet jamie macintyre of cnn said he saw no plane or pieces and ive never seen a picture any damn plane
  • gibbitsgibbits Posts: 512
    they tell us a big plane hit the pentagon and yet jamie macintyre of cnn said he saw no plane or pieces and ive never seen a picture any damn plane

    Tell that to the people whos' families were on that plane.
  • godpt3 wrote:
    I'm pretty sure the wreckage of 3 airliners trumps anything the conspiracy theorists can produce.

    you talking about the scraps of wreckage at the Pentagon? or the scraps of the flight that went down and apparently vaporised on impact, despite the fact they found parts scattered for miles, which is far more consistent with a plane being shot down.
  • gibbits wrote:
    Tell that to the people whos' families were on that plane.

    who's to say that's how they met their deaths? as elaborated as it sounds, there is very little proof that THAT plane hit the pentagon.
  • people with common sense. welcome!
  • godpt3 wrote:
    I'm pretty sure the wreckage of 3 airliners trumps anything the conspiracy theorists can produce.
    wreckage? where? of exactly what type of plane?

    they say one had a pod on it on the von kliest video
  • I think it's hard to say there is ZERO evidence of a conspiracy, but they seem to take it too far. They're looking too far into it. Neither the conspiracy theories or the official 9/11 commission are very acurate and filled with holes.
  • hippiemomhippiemom Posts: 3,326
    they tell us a big plane hit the pentagon and yet jamie macintyre of cnn said he saw no plane or pieces and ive never seen a picture any damn plane
    From Skeptic Magazine:

    But if there is so much evidence that a plane crashed into the Pentagon, why did CNN correspondent Jamie McIntyre report that he could find none? The answer is that McIntyre did not report this at all, and the 9/11 Truth Movement is once again selectively manipulating evidence to fit their conclusions. When McIntyre noted that no debris from a plane was observable near the Pentagon, he was responding to a specific question asked by CNN anchor Judy Woodruff during the segment. Flight 77 came in flying very low, and there had been speculation that the plane might have struck the ground shortly before reaching the Pentagon. McIntyre’s response, when quoted in full, makes clear that he is saying that there was no evidence that the plane hit the ground before hitting the Pentagon, but he certainly does not deny that the plane struck the Pentagon itself.

    WOODRUFF: Jamie, Aaron was talking earlier — or one of our correspondence was talking earlier — I think — actually, it was Bob Franken — with an eyewitness who said it appeared that that Boeing 757, the American jet, American Airline jet, landed short of the Pentagon.

    Can you give us any better idea of how much of the plane actually impacted the building?

    MCINTYRE: You know, it might have appeared that way, but from my close-up inspection, there’s no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon. The only site is the actual site of the building that’s crashed in [emphasis added], and as I said, the only pieces left that you can see are small enough that you can pick up in your hand. There are no large tail sections, wing sections, fuselage, nothing like that anywhere around, which would indicate that the entire plane crashed into the side of the Pentagon and then caused the side to collapse [emphasis added].

    Note that McIntyre never questions that an airplane crash damaged the Pentagon, and indeed describes seeing many pieces of the aircraft around the crash site in an earlier section of the CNN transcript. Of course, this has not stopped conspiracy theorists from picking and choosing the evidence to push their own agendas.

    http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/06-09-11.html
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  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    who's to say that's how they met their deaths? as elaborated as it sounds, there is very little proof that THAT plane hit the pentagon.


    very little proof? are you people insane? where is the plane then?
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    wreckage? where? of exactly what type of plane?

    they say one had a pod on it on the von kliest video

    i'm not a huge fan of these types of websites but they do have pictures. take a peak

    http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1
  • was there ever a plane?
  • you talking about the scraps of wreckage at the Pentagon? or the scraps of the flight that went down and apparently vaporised on impact, despite the fact they found parts scattered for miles, which is far more consistent with a plane being shot down.


    this "vaporised"thing people say is the stupidiset thing ive heard in 30 years

    sounds like scinece fiction on art bell or something
  • jlew24asu wrote:
    very little proof? are you people insane? where is the plane then?

    Who knows? I remember seeing photos from the scene where they compared the wrecked parts of plane, and they were not from the plane that was supposed to have hit the pentagon, but were in fact parts of a much smaller military plane.
  • Has anyone seen ANY PARTS OF ANYTHING in the field in PA other than black grass?

    To accept anything our government says without question is insane. Our governments history demands we ask more questions, about everything, all the time.
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  • spiral outspiral out Posts: 1,052
    Having watched the stupid BBC conspiracy documentary on sunday night, it really doesn't appear to be a boeing 757 that hit the pentagon.

    They freeze framed the only bit of the video showing whatever it was that flew into the pentegon, and it was too long and thin to be the nose of a boeing 757.

    How can two planes crash and disapear into thin air it just doesn't make sense.

    Also that must have been one amazing pilot to fly that low to the ground with out touching it.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

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  • spiral out wrote:
    Having watched the stupid BBC conspiracy documentary on sunday night, it really doesn't appear to be a boeing 757 that hit the pentagon.

    They freeze framed the only bit of the video showing whatever it was that flew into the pentegon, and it was too long and thin to be the nose of a boeing 757.

    How can two planes crash and disapear into thin air it just doesn't make sense.

    Also that must have been one amazing pilot to fly that low to the ground with out touching it.

    You mean a hack middle eastern pilot who couldn't fly a small plane at aviation school couldn't do it, OR make an impossible turn over Washington airspace couldn't fly a plane inches off of the ground without leaving any marks.

    Yeah right, dream on hippie
  • spiral outspiral out Posts: 1,052
    You mean a hack middle eastern pilot who couldn't fly a small plane at aviation school couldn't do it, OR make an impossible turn over Washington airspace couldn't fly a plane inches off of the ground without leaving any marks.

    Yeah right, dream on hippie

    The second part of what your saying makes no sense.

    If it was a hack middle eastern pilot who couldn't fly a small plane at aviation school then how was he able to fly a boeing 757 so well?
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

    The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
  • spiral out wrote:
    The second part of what your saying makes no sense.

    If it was a hack middle eastern pilot who couldn't fly a small plane at aviation school then how was he able to fly a boeing 757 so well?

    Notice the wink in my post, I was being sarcastic--I'm on your side brother
  • Let's start with the basics. Can we at least that all the members of flight 77 are dead? Or is that asking too much?

    Barbara Olsen, wife of Ted Olsen (government official in the Bush Administration) was on that plane. She was a regular guest on FoxNews, a conservative blonde who was rather attractive and was becoming well known. She was even on 'Politically incorrect' with Bill Mahrer. She took the Tuesday flight so her and Ted could celebrate his birthday the night before.

    As anyone seen her since?
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  • spiral outspiral out Posts: 1,052
    Notice the wink in my post, I was being sarcastic--I'm on your side brother

    LOL, missed that wink there. It seemed like sarcasm just didn't pay enough attention.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

    The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
  • spiral outspiral out Posts: 1,052
    WindNoSail wrote:
    Let's start with the basics. Can we at least that all the members of flight 77 are dead? Or is that asking too much?

    Barbara Olsen, wife of Ted Olsen (government official in the Bush Administration) was on that plane. She was a regular guest on FoxNews, a conservative blonde who was rather attractive and was becoming well known. She was even on 'Politically incorrect' with Bill Mahrer. She took the Tuesday flight so her and Ted could celebrate his birthday the night before.

    As anyone seen her since?

    I wont comment on that because i don't know who she is.

    Ok so whats the next step towards your prove that plane hit the pentagon?
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

    The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
  • jlew24asujlew24asu Posts: 10,118
    spiral out wrote:
    I wont comment on that because i don't know who she is.

    Ok so whats the next step towards your prove that plane hit the pentagon?

    maybe eye witnesses can help convince you. or are these paid actors?

    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/bn.32.html
  • spiral out wrote:
    I wont comment on that because i don't know who she is.

    Ok so whats the next step towards your prove that plane hit the pentagon?

    Well first we need to agree that people were on a plane, flight 77. And that they have been buried.

    http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/trade.center/victims/AA77.victims.html
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_77

    Here is some more info on Barbara Olson.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Olson
    Note the reference to Bill Mahrer leaving the seat open on the show that week, she was to be there for the taping.
    HOB 10.05.2005, E Rutherford 06.03.2006, The Gorge 07.22.2006, Lolla 08.05.2007, West Palm 06.11.2008, Tampa 06.12.2008, Columbia 06.16.2008, EV Memphis 06.20.2009, New Orleans 05.01.2010, Kansas City 05.03.2010
  • spiral outspiral out Posts: 1,052
    jlew24asu wrote:
    maybe eye witnesses can help convince you. or are these paid actors?

    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/bn.32.html

    People say they've spoken to god but that doesn't mean i believe them.

    Ok so would you like to tell me why the object in the official video looks nothing like a boeing 757 nose? as i see everyone has just ignored that question.
    Keep on rockin in the free world!!!!

    The economy has polarized to the point where the wealthiest 10% now own 85% of the nation’s wealth. Never before have the bottom 90% been so highly indebted, so dependent on the wealthy.
  • chopitdownchopitdown Posts: 2,222
    spiral out wrote:
    People say they've spoken to god but that doesn't mean i believe them.

    Ok so would you like to tell me why the object in the official video looks nothing like a boeing 757 nose? as i see everyone has just ignored that question.

    why do you take the word of the bbc who has a blurry video over the eyewitness account of people who were there? Where are the people on the flight. You'll have some credibility when you can produce the flight and people not a poor quality video of something that may or may not be the nose of a 757.
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  • spiral out wrote:
    People say they've spoken to god but that doesn't mean i believe them.

    Ok so would you like to tell me why the object in the official video looks nothing like a boeing 757 nose? as i see everyone has just ignored that question.

    The video I have seen doesn't show anything. I ask the question if we had no video of the two planes hitting the towers would we be discussing that they were missles instead?

    What is the theory, if the people died and the plane never landed, then where is it? Are we saying it was shot down somewhere and then a missle was fired into the Pentagon to create the cover up?
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  • would the government lie to us??!!come on now!!how could they lie?!!!about anything!!!
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