Controlled by fear? That is just stupid. You really have no idea what you are talking about. Not one day have I been in fear with Bush as president or Clinton. What does that even mean "controlled by fear"?
just say 9/11 to the avg american and watch them line up for whatever cause you want them for.
Iraq war? "Rememeber 9/11!". yes fear controls alot of america, But I should've elaborated on the control thing, it's not the only way americans are controled. It was just the first example that came to mind.
just say 9/11 to the avg american and watch them line up for whatever cause you want them for.
Iraq war? "Rememeber 9/11!". yes fear controls alot of america, But I should've elaborated on the control thing, it's not the only way americans are controled. It was just the first example that came to mind.
Better to be an american than to be a lazy canadian....
To put things into the real world which you did a good job of distancing yourself from with your comments. Your military did jack shit on 911 and then you have hit the wrong country for your blood thirsty revenge. Right there is why people can't stand people like you. And then multiply it by the last 200+ years.
I also like the fact that the yanks are a bunch of pussies without their beloved military and guns. Take that to the bank!
Oh that's rich, man I really wish we could be more like the bad ass, hardcore, noble ass whoopers synonymous with canucks. HA
Ya know, here in the US we haven't really had secession issues since our CIVIL WAR. Sounds like you got a problem you really should be tending to in your own back yard buddy.
Oh and believe me I'll take it to the BANK. With your country's shitty ass currency value I'm a fuckin millionare.
Yes all americans are not the same, never said they were, america at it's core is a great place. United States Constitution and all that. thumbs up!
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just say 9/11 to the avg american and watch them line up for whatever cause you want them for.
Iraq war? "Rememeber 9/11!". yes fear controls alot of america, But I should've elaborated on the control thing, it's not the only way americans are controled. It was just the first example that came to mind.
Again what are you talking about? Are you implying that the US gov't staged the attacks of 9/11 in order to 'control us with fear'?
Personally I'm glad that Americans are willing to "line up" after 9/11 and do something about it. The difference between your country and mine is when we have a problem we deal with it, and when you have a problem you wait until we'll deal with it.
Again what are you talking about? Are you implying that the US gov't staged the attacks of 9/11 in order to 'control us with fear'?
Personally I'm glad that Americans are willing to "line up" after 9/11 and do something about it. The difference between your country and mine is when we have a problem we deal with it, and when you have a problem you wait until we'll deal with it.
huh? no, I'm saying that they used it to help control the population, I don't think anyone can argue with that?
as far as your second paragraph goes, that just put a smile on my face.
When they give you shit, just ask them what the fuck they ever did for the world. So our government currently sucks right now - big deal. America's saved more ass than Carter's got pills.
Even with a shitty government, our country is 10x better than any other country out there.
I don't lie awake worrying about what Australians think of us. Honestly, it matters very little to me.
In the end, it comes down to one thing: military power. They're threatened by our military, and for good reason: we could kick anyone's asses if we wanted to. But we don't and God Bless us for not.
Us Brits love's the Americans but i guess quotes from matey here does'nt help
London 1996 Cardiff 2000 Paris 2006 and London 2007.
America has been in bad shape for a long time, not only that but take a look at south africa for example, those problems were internal. you see when america is bad it affects many other places,countries and people.
How much time do you need? look right now at the destruction american policy is causing.
If you think the South Africa example isn't really a good comparison, then you shouldn't have brought it up in the first place.
And the destruction that American policy is causing is supported by many countries around the world, not just American taxpayers. I'm sure whatever country you live in trades heavily with America...which your tax dollars would be supporting as well.
I don't think it helps to focus on pointing fingers as opposed to working together on solutions. All you're doing is saying we're not doing anything about our situation, but you haven't offered any realistic solutions. As I said before, what would you have us do?
If you think the South Africa example isn't really a good comparison, then you shouldn't have brought it up in the first place.
And the destruction that American policy is causing is supported by many countries around the world, not just American taxpayers. I'm sure whatever country you live in trades heavily with America...which your tax dollars would be supporting as well.
I don't think it helps to focus on pointing fingers as opposed to working together on solutions. All you're doing is saying we're not doing anything about our situation, but you haven't offered any realistic solutions. As I said before, what would you have us do?
I brought up SA because it was an example of a people standing up to a powerful government. the difference as I mentioned was that what america does involves more people around the world.
Firstly, i'm sorry for pointing fingers.
Now, let's start by not voting for one of the two corporate parties. good start yeah? Let's take the power back so to speak.
Personally I'm glad that Americans are willing to "line up" after 9/11 and do something about it. The difference between your country and mine is when we have a problem we deal with it, and when you have a problem you wait until we'll deal with it.
Glad as in you let the supposed ring leader still be on the run? Glad that you are now bogged down in a country that had nothing to do with 911? Glad that you can tell us about war and not have to fight in it? Glad that you should have bombed Saudia Arabia to the stone age but your gov't are in tight with them? So pull the blinds over the eyes of the public who are either blind or stupid, probably both and have them cheer for war as long as your troops aren't on American soil, everything must be okay in your world.
Ice skates and all B.....!
I brought up SA because it was an example of a people standing up to a powerful government. the difference as I mentioned was that what america does involves more people around the world.
Firstly, i'm sorry for pointing fingers.
Now, let's start by not voting for one of the two corporate parties. good start yeah? Let's take the power back so to speak.
Yeah, I get what you were saying about American policy affecting more people around the world. Certainly true. But the flipside to that coin is that American policy is supported unwillingly by more people around the world, not just by American taxpayers. So it's a problem for all of us, and we all should focus on what each of us can do about it, not what other people can do about it.
And I agree, democrats and republicans are essentially the same, and working for rich investors. Locally, it's extremely easy to vote for independent and/or 3rd party candidates, which I do. The presidential election is more tricky because even if by some miracle, an independent candidate got elected, he/she would have no support from a major-party controlled congress. So I think that's why a lot of people here go with the "lesser of 2 evils" strategy when voting for president. I'm still not sure about that, and I voted for an independent candidate last time. But I definitely think the change has to come from the bottom up. Independent candidates can't even get on the presidential ballot in many states. So for some people, it's not even an option.
Yeah, I get what you were saying about American policy affecting more people around the world. Certainly true. But the flipside to that coin is that American policy is supported unwillingly by more people around the world, not just by American taxpayers. So it's a problem for all of us, and we all should focus on what each of us can do about it, not what other people can do about it.
And I agree, democrats and republicans are essentially the same, and working for rich investors. Locally, it's extremely easy to vote for independent and/or 3rd party candidates, which I do. The presidential election is more tricky because even if by some miracle, an independent candidate got elected, he/she would have no support from a major-party controlled congress. So I think that's why a lot of people here go with the "lesser of 2 evils" strategy when voting for president. I'm still not sure about that, and I voted for an independent candidate last time. But I definitely think the change has to come from the bottom up. Independent candidates can't even get on the presidential ballot in many states. So for some people, it's not even an option.
exactly and if it's just really only an option between the two major corporate parties than how will things ever really change. it's really just sad.
I know a thrid pary hardly has a chance but I still feel that we need to at least try to swing as many votes to that side. in hope that the lesser of two evils will wake up by this.
To put things into the real world which you did a good job of distancing yourself from with your comments. Your military did jack shit on 911 and then you have hit the wrong country for your blood thirsty revenge. Right there is why people can't stand people like you. And then multiply it by the last 200+ years.
I also like the fact that the yanks are a bunch of pussies without their beloved military and guns. Take that to the bank![/quote
Well if we don't have our guns to defend ourselves how are we supposed to stop you damn Canucks from stabbing us with your ice skates?
I'm Canadian and that is so damn funny
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Please do not group all Canadians together, I am one canuck who is far from anti american, I can seperate politicians from its citizens and have spent many quality hours at concerts sporting events and vacations.
PS I do not much care for hockey, but love football.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Please do not group all Canadians together, I am one canuck who is far from anti american, I can seperate politicians from its citizens and have spent many quality hours at concerts sporting events and vacations.
PS I do not much care for hockey, but love football.
who's anti american? now who's putting people into groups?
and what, you don't care much for hockey? what the hell kinda canadian are you?
I hope they keep thinking we're cowboy assholes. You know why? They're fucking pricks who make fun of us when we go to their countries even though our government has done the bad things, not us.
They're the assholes. Make fun of Bush - fine. I'm not going to hate on all French people even though Jacques Chirac is a douche.
What you call arrogance, I call pride in my country. I'm sorry you can't be proud of your country.
See that is where you are mistaken. I am proud of my country. I just don't throw my citizenry like some badge of honor in other people's faces.
"When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
Controlled by fear? That is just stupid. You really have no idea what you are talking about. Not one day have I been in fear with Bush as president or Clinton. What does that even mean "controlled by fear"?
reason Bush is in power is simply because of fear....fear of the imminent threat, fear of the evil doer, fear of the Muslim, fear of going to hell......its all based on fear. I talk to my fellow Republican friends..and fear is their number one driver..they don't realize it but it does....there are soooo many sheep in this country..the polititians have it so easy..and yes I put Dems in this as well.
On to the original post....gone to South America (Brazil), Europe (Germany, Switzerland, Netherlands (woo hoo) after we invaded Iraq and have gotten soo many cold shoulders...till I explained to them..that I was one of the 49% of Americans that despise the Bush administration and are utterly dissapointed in my fellow Americans....after that..its smooth sailing.
NCFan and I don't normally agree but he had some good points in his first post on this thread....many people in the world do hold us to another higher standard..and many are very jealous of the US..and we do get a bad rap. We have helped so much in this world....and have made this world a better place. I am proud to live here and would live in no other country....but Bush still sucks and still wish my countrymen and women would see through the BS his administration put us through....okay I feel better now.
reason Bush is in power is simply because of fear....fear of the imminent threat, fear of the evil doer, fear of the Muslim, fear of going to hell......its all based on fear. I talk to my fellow Republican friends..and fear is their number one driver..they don't realize it but it does....there are soooo many sheep in this country..the polititians have it so easy..and yes I put Dems in this as well.
On to the original post....gone to South America (Brazil), Europe (Germany, Switzerland, Netherlands (woo hoo) after we invaded Iraq and have gotten soo many cold shoulders...till I explained to them..that I was one of the 49% of Americans that despise the Bush administration and are utterly dissapointed in my fellow Americans....after that..its smooth sailing.
NCFan and I don't normally agree but he had some good points in his first post on this thread....many people in the world do hold us to another higher standard..and many are very jealous of the US..and we do get a bad rap. We have helped so much in this world....and have made this world a better place. I am proud to live here and would live in no other country....but Bush still sucks and still wish my countrymen and women would see through the BS his administration put us through....okay I feel better now.
I'm not sure what is wrong with your friends, but the Republicans, myself included, that I know and talk with aren't voting out of fear. What do you mean that your friends are driven by fear? This notion that fear controls us is so ridiculous. You make it sound like there are a bunch of people running around like chickens with their heads cut off. In my day-to-day life I just don't see this 'fear' that is taking over.
I brought up SA because it was an example of a people standing up to a powerful government. the difference as I mentioned was that what america does involves more people around the world.
Firstly, i'm sorry for pointing fingers.
Now, let's start by not voting for one of the two corporate parties. good start yeah? Let's take the power back so to speak.
South Africa...we're a bunch of lazy fat righteous comfortable sheep.....why should be fight it....its nice to be on top.....governments not taking my gas guzzling pick up away....not taking my 32 guns...and we're hanging the evil doers...whats to rise up against.
Now seriously....our last election did show that some of us are starting to use our noodle. I just hope it continues...and hope the weak democrats grow some juevos and get some principles.
I'm not sure what is wrong with your friends, but the Republicans, myself included, that I know and talk with aren't voting out of fear. What do you mean that your friends are driven by fear? This notion that fear controls us is so ridiculous. You make it sound like there are a bunch of people running around like chickens with their heads cut off. In my day-to-day life I just don't see this 'fear' that is taking over.
there not running around like headless chickens...but they are driven by fear...thats why Bush got re-elected..that was his strategy. And to all those righous folks they don't want to go to hell...all fear fear fear....Americans are afraid they're going to get blown up by a terrorist...when they have a better chance of winning the freakin lottery.
I'm not sure what is wrong with your friends, but the Republicans, myself included, that I know and talk with aren't voting out of fear. What do you mean that your friends are driven by fear? This notion that fear controls us is so ridiculous. You make it sound like there are a bunch of people running around like chickens with their heads cut off. In my day-to-day life I just don't see this 'fear' that is taking over.
I did forget greed...many did overlook fear and voted their pocket books rather than principle....but we're kinda leading this thread astay.
most of the world is anti american. its not just canada.
and the Aussies have NO room to talk. they are in the same boat we are. who do they think america's allies are? England and Australia.
all three countries have leaders going against the public's wishes.
isn;t that the opposite of a democracy?
Then come the next election toss your leaders out. The US just had mid term elections and it was apparent by the results that the people were not happy and changed course. That is democracy.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
there not running around like headless chickens...but they are driven by fear...thats why Bush got re-elected..that was his strategy. And to all those righous folks they don't want to go to hell...all fear fear fear....Americans are afraid they're going to get blown up by a terrorist...when they have a better chance of winning the freakin lottery.
I really don't think people worry that much about getting blown up by a terrorist. Honestly is that a fear that you have when you get out of bed, because for me that is the last thing on my mind.
If you really polled people across the country about what they fear, I don't think a terrorist attack killing them would be in their top five. The poll would have to be reflective of the whole country, not just the bible belt. If there is such a poll out there I would be interested.
I did forget greed...many did overlook fear and voted their pocket books rather than principle....but we're kinda leading this thread astay.
I'm not sure what you specifically refer to when talking about voting their pocket books rather than principle, but I definitely, out of principle, vote to protect my pocket book from looters and theives. It is a very principled vote. So perhaps I'm misunderstanding your intent.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
Then come the next election toss your leaders out. The US just had mid term elections and it was apparent by the results that the people were not happy and changed course. That is democracy.
Don't be silly that wasn't democracy at work, because the Democrats and Republicans are cut from the same cloth. You didn't know that?
Then come the next election toss your leaders out. The US just had mid term elections and it was apparent by the results that the people were not happy and changed course. That is democracy.
yes, that is. but had the people been told the truth all along, we would have tossed him out in '04. democracy needs transparency to survive.
but if this is a democracy for the people, then why is Dummy not listening to anyone? he seems to think he has the answers, but he's been wrong about every single thing so far.
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just say 9/11 to the avg american and watch them line up for whatever cause you want them for.
Iraq war? "Rememeber 9/11!". yes fear controls alot of america, But I should've elaborated on the control thing, it's not the only way americans are controled. It was just the first example that came to mind.
Better to be an american than to be a lazy canadian....
Oh that's rich, man I really wish we could be more like the bad ass, hardcore, noble ass whoopers synonymous with canucks. HA
Ya know, here in the US we haven't really had secession issues since our CIVIL WAR. Sounds like you got a problem you really should be tending to in your own back yard buddy.
Oh and believe me I'll take it to the BANK. With your country's shitty ass currency value I'm a fuckin millionare.
I'm lookin around and I love this place.
Again what are you talking about? Are you implying that the US gov't staged the attacks of 9/11 in order to 'control us with fear'?
Personally I'm glad that Americans are willing to "line up" after 9/11 and do something about it. The difference between your country and mine is when we have a problem we deal with it, and when you have a problem you wait until we'll deal with it.
huh? no, I'm saying that they used it to help control the population, I don't think anyone can argue with that?
as far as your second paragraph goes, that just put a smile on my face.
Us Brits love's the Americans but i guess quotes from matey here does'nt help
If you think the South Africa example isn't really a good comparison, then you shouldn't have brought it up in the first place.
And the destruction that American policy is causing is supported by many countries around the world, not just American taxpayers. I'm sure whatever country you live in trades heavily with America...which your tax dollars would be supporting as well.
I don't think it helps to focus on pointing fingers as opposed to working together on solutions. All you're doing is saying we're not doing anything about our situation, but you haven't offered any realistic solutions. As I said before, what would you have us do?
I'm all about making people happy my friend, so your welcome.
I brought up SA because it was an example of a people standing up to a powerful government. the difference as I mentioned was that what america does involves more people around the world.
Firstly, i'm sorry for pointing fingers.
Now, let's start by not voting for one of the two corporate parties. good start yeah? Let's take the power back so to speak.
Glad as in you let the supposed ring leader still be on the run? Glad that you are now bogged down in a country that had nothing to do with 911? Glad that you can tell us about war and not have to fight in it? Glad that you should have bombed Saudia Arabia to the stone age but your gov't are in tight with them? So pull the blinds over the eyes of the public who are either blind or stupid, probably both and have them cheer for war as long as your troops aren't on American soil, everything must be okay in your world.
Ice skates and all B.....!
Yeah, I get what you were saying about American policy affecting more people around the world. Certainly true. But the flipside to that coin is that American policy is supported unwillingly by more people around the world, not just by American taxpayers. So it's a problem for all of us, and we all should focus on what each of us can do about it, not what other people can do about it.
And I agree, democrats and republicans are essentially the same, and working for rich investors. Locally, it's extremely easy to vote for independent and/or 3rd party candidates, which I do. The presidential election is more tricky because even if by some miracle, an independent candidate got elected, he/she would have no support from a major-party controlled congress. So I think that's why a lot of people here go with the "lesser of 2 evils" strategy when voting for president. I'm still not sure about that, and I voted for an independent candidate last time. But I definitely think the change has to come from the bottom up. Independent candidates can't even get on the presidential ballot in many states. So for some people, it's not even an option.
exactly and if it's just really only an option between the two major corporate parties than how will things ever really change. it's really just sad.
I know a thrid pary hardly has a chance but I still feel that we need to at least try to swing as many votes to that side. in hope that the lesser of two evils will wake up by this.
Nothing and I mean nothing screams democracy and free as this last statement ladies and gents.
I'm Canadian and that is so damn funny
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
PS I do not much care for hockey, but love football.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
who's anti american? now who's putting people into groups?
and what, you don't care much for hockey? what the hell kinda canadian are you?
Let me re phrase, not all canadians are anti american, but there are a lot that are.
I used to love hockey, until the euro invasion began, not it more resembles soccer than hockey.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
See that is where you are mistaken. I am proud of my country. I just don't throw my citizenry like some badge of honor in other people's faces.
most of the world is anti american. its not just canada.
and the Aussies have NO room to talk. they are in the same boat we are. who do they think america's allies are? England and Australia.
all three countries have leaders going against the public's wishes.
isn;t that the opposite of a democracy?
reason Bush is in power is simply because of fear....fear of the imminent threat, fear of the evil doer, fear of the Muslim, fear of going to hell......its all based on fear. I talk to my fellow Republican friends..and fear is their number one driver..they don't realize it but it does....there are soooo many sheep in this country..the polititians have it so easy..and yes I put Dems in this as well.
On to the original post....gone to South America (Brazil), Europe (Germany, Switzerland, Netherlands (woo hoo) after we invaded Iraq and have gotten soo many cold shoulders...till I explained to them..that I was one of the 49% of Americans that despise the Bush administration and are utterly dissapointed in my fellow Americans....after that..its smooth sailing.
NCFan and I don't normally agree but he had some good points in his first post on this thread....many people in the world do hold us to another higher standard..and many are very jealous of the US..and we do get a bad rap. We have helped so much in this world....and have made this world a better place. I am proud to live here and would live in no other country....but Bush still sucks and still wish my countrymen and women would see through the BS his administration put us through....okay I feel better now.
I'm not sure what is wrong with your friends, but the Republicans, myself included, that I know and talk with aren't voting out of fear. What do you mean that your friends are driven by fear? This notion that fear controls us is so ridiculous. You make it sound like there are a bunch of people running around like chickens with their heads cut off. In my day-to-day life I just don't see this 'fear' that is taking over.
South Africa...we're a bunch of lazy fat righteous comfortable sheep.....why should be fight it....its nice to be on top.....governments not taking my gas guzzling pick up away....not taking my 32 guns...and we're hanging the evil doers...whats to rise up against.
Now seriously....our last election did show that some of us are starting to use our noodle. I just hope it continues...and hope the weak democrats grow some juevos and get some principles.
there not running around like headless chickens...but they are driven by fear...thats why Bush got re-elected..that was his strategy. And to all those righous folks they don't want to go to hell...all fear fear fear....Americans are afraid they're going to get blown up by a terrorist...when they have a better chance of winning the freakin lottery.
I did forget greed...many did overlook fear and voted their pocket books rather than principle....but we're kinda leading this thread astay.
Then come the next election toss your leaders out. The US just had mid term elections and it was apparent by the results that the people were not happy and changed course. That is democracy.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I really don't think people worry that much about getting blown up by a terrorist. Honestly is that a fear that you have when you get out of bed, because for me that is the last thing on my mind.
If you really polled people across the country about what they fear, I don't think a terrorist attack killing them would be in their top five. The poll would have to be reflective of the whole country, not just the bible belt. If there is such a poll out there I would be interested.
I'm not sure what you specifically refer to when talking about voting their pocket books rather than principle, but I definitely, out of principle, vote to protect my pocket book from looters and theives. It is a very principled vote. So perhaps I'm misunderstanding your intent.
Don't be silly that wasn't democracy at work, because the Democrats and Republicans are cut from the same cloth. You didn't know that?
yes, that is. but had the people been told the truth all along, we would have tossed him out in '04. democracy needs transparency to survive.
but if this is a democracy for the people, then why is Dummy not listening to anyone? he seems to think he has the answers, but he's been wrong about every single thing so far.