"act of war", isreal moves into lebanon

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  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    know1 wrote:
    Very true. Violence will never end until one side take the high road and doesn't seek revenge.

    Or until one side kills every last one on the other side.
    El_Kabong wrote:
    Colombia also receives over a billion in aid and their military has mountains of rape cases, murder cases, execution cases, kidnapping cases, theft at gunpoint cases, destruction of property cases....against it. good thing their president gave the military immunity.

    also, by US law it is illegal to give aid to Israel as they have a secret nuke program


    They arent very good at keeping secrets are they? Kabong knows about them all it seems. ;)
    rightondude wrote:
    Just when I though I've heard the worse...more shock and awe comes my way and blows my mind.

    I dare say the Nazi's were just lil pups compared to Bush

    So the US never sold any arms to any countries except under bush? Or republican's only? You sir, are a broken record.
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  • rightondude
    rightondude Posts: 745
    mammasan wrote:
    Me for eating it. Regardless of your profession I should be informed enough to know that the food is not good for my health.

    Now back to the topic at hand. Yes Bush is quilty of selling weapons to questionable governments but you can't hang all the blame on him. Our foreign policy has been in place since the times of the Monroe Doctrine so blame has to equally spread amongst every administration from then till now.

    I disagree. I think the US is a little more informed in this regard than most of these third world countries they play games with.

    I say bush but I mean US foreign agenda. It's all the same to me. One force driven towards a common goal since 1590.
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    rightondude wrote:
    I disagree. I think the US is a little more informed in this regard than most of these third world countries they play games with.


    Maybe the citizens of the third world countries you speak of may not be as informed, but be sure that their governments know exactly what they are doing.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • rightondude
    rightondude Posts: 745
    mammasan wrote:
    Maybe the citizens of the third world countries you speak of may not be as informed, but be sure that their governments know exactly what they are doing.

    They do know what they are doing at the time, however I think they soon find themselves out their element and duped after the fact. (Once the US money muscle starts steering the boat).
  • mammasan
    mammasan Posts: 5,656
    rightondude wrote:
    They do know what they are doing at the time, however I think they soon find themselves out their element and duped after the fact. (Once the US money muscle starts steering the boat).

    I disagree. These governments know exactly what they are doing when they do business with us.
    "When one gets in bed with government, one must expect the diseases it spreads." - Ron Paul
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    mammasan wrote:
    I disagree. These governments know exactly what they are doing when they do business with us.

    It takes two to tango.
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  • rightondude
    rightondude Posts: 745
    mammasan wrote:
    I disagree. These governments know exactly what they are doing when they do business with us.

    I doubt the picture is painted that way for them at the time though. Look at Saddam.
  • NCfan
    NCfan Posts: 945
    Sums it all up perfectly...

    "Finally, as we know from our own southern border, anytime a successful Westernized nation is adjacent to a poorer Third World country, primordial emotions like honor and envy cloud reason. Rather than concede that Western-style democracy, capitalism, personal freedom and the rule of law explain why a prosperous, stable Israel arose from scrub and rock, Palestinians fixate on "Zionism," "colonialism" and "racism."

    No wonder they do. Otherwise they would have to grapple with intractable and indigenous tribalism, gender apartheid, militias and religious fundamentalism, while building an open society based on the rule of law."
  • PureandEasy
    PureandEasy Posts: 5,818
    My co-worker is in Lebanon right now, she left Saturday. I couldn't believe when I saw this story this morning.
    Don't come closer or I'll have to go
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    mammasan wrote:
    This isn't about Bush. Our aid to questionable governments has been on-going for decades. This transends partisanship because both parties are equally guilty of this.


    i agree
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    PaperPlates wrote:




    They arent very good at keeping secrets are they? Kabong knows about them all it seems. ;)


    because he digs for the truth, because he has an open mind that is capable of dissent, because he doesnt blindly believe the spoon fed bullshit by the pentagon and government funded history books, because he thinks for himself instead of blindly saluting the flag and getting in line when uncle sam barks the order... because he is in fact a true patriot that questions his government and try's to right the wrongs being committed in his name with his funding through taxes

    this country (the world) needs alot more el kabongs


    "because this little brother is watching you too" zach de la rocha
  • Jammin909
    Jammin909 Posts: 888
    No surprise. Israel needs to stop acting like an innocent and abused victim of violence. They are nuts just like the rest of the countries in the middle east.
    The less you know, the more you believe.
  • Rue D'Awakening
    Rue D'Awakening Posts: 143
    my2hands wrote:
    because he digs for the truth, because he has an open mind that is capable of dissent, because he doesnt blindly believe the spoon fed bullshit by the pentagon and government funded history books, because he thinks for himself instead of blindly saluting the flag and getting in line when uncle sam barks the order... because he is in fact a true patriot that questions his government and try's to right the wrongs being committed in his name with his funding through taxes

    this country (the world) needs alot more el kabongs


    "because this little brother is watching you too" zach de la rocha

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
    Anti Zionism is not Anti Semitism

    Most antizionists are antisemites
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    my2hands wrote:
    because he digs for the truth, because he has an open mind that is capable of dissent, because he doesnt blindly believe the spoon fed bullshit by the pentagon and government funded history books, because he thinks for himself instead of blindly saluting the flag and getting in line when uncle sam barks the order... because he is in fact a true patriot that questions his government and try's to right the wrongs being committed in his name with his funding through taxes

    this country (the world) needs alot more el kabongs


    "because this little brother is watching you too" zach de la rocha

    Not for nothing, but he doesnt dig for truth, he digs for articles. But he wasnt and isnt my point. My point was, for all these "secret programs" in the news, our govt isnt very good at keeping secrets. Or they arent true, so therefore there's no secret.

    And if by "this world needs a lot more ______insert Pit member's name here__________", you mean more people sitting on a msg board accomplishing nothing, you're right. ;)
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  • rightondude
    rightondude Posts: 745
    PaperPlates wrote:
    Not for nothing, but he doesnt dig for truth, he digs for articles. But he wasnt and isnt my point. My point was, for all these "secret programs" in the news, our govt isnt very good at keeping secrets. Or they arent true, so therefore there's no secret.

    And if by "this world needs a lot more ______insert Pit member's name here__________", you mean more people sitting on a msg board accomplishing nothing, you're right. ;)

    Oh my... did some one/thing wake you? nothing to see here, go back to sleep :D
  • rightondude
    rightondude Posts: 745
    my2hands wrote:
    because he digs for the truth, because he has an open mind that is capable of dissent, because he doesnt blindly believe the spoon fed bullshit by the pentagon and government funded history books, because he thinks for himself instead of blindly saluting the flag and getting in line when uncle sam barks the order... because he is in fact a true patriot that questions his government and try's to right the wrongs being committed in his name with his funding through taxes

    this country (the world) needs alot more el kabongs

    You bet. If anyone isn't pissed at what's going on today around the world they are either VERY (very) misinformed or just incapable of an objective thought process.

    A face value government?...bwahahahha! That's a good one!
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    rightondude wrote:
    You bet. If anyone isn't pissed at what's going on today around the world they are either VERY (very) misinformed or just incapable of an objective thought process.

    A face value government?...bwahahahha! That's a good one!

    I think your record player is skipping.
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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    rightondude wrote:
    You bet. If anyone isn't pissed at what's going on today around the world they are either VERY (very) misinformed or just incapable of an objective thought process.

    A face value government?...bwahahahha! That's a good one!

    Or we recognize that the world is full of evil people. We realize that sometimes you have to make friends with enemies in the short term. You all think diplomacy is the answer to everything. Guess what? Why haven't we solved the North Korean crisis yet? Iran? We're going to have to give North Korea Georgia if they're ever going to change their ways. Yeah, we're pissed at the way the world is working right now. But we don't automatically blame the US. It's China's fault we're having problems in North Korea. It's the money hungry Russians who won't help with Iran. You all want world government, and the Iran and North Korea problems to go away. Guess what, the world doesn't want to deal with them. The US does, and they're probably going to have to get their hands dirty to do it.
  • Commy
    Commy Posts: 4,984
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    Or we recognize that the world is full of evil people. We realize that sometimes you have to make friends with enemies in the short term. You all think diplomacy is the answer to everything. Guess what? Why haven't we solved the North Korean crisis yet? Iran? We're going to have to give North Korea Georgia if they're ever going to change their ways. Yeah, we're pissed at the way the world is working right now. But we don't automatically blame the US. It's China's fault we're having problems in North Korea. It's the money hungry Russians who won't help with Iran. You all want world government, and the Iran and North Korea problems to go away. Guess what, the world doesn't want to deal with them. The US does, and they're probably going to have to get their hands dirty to do it.

    Why does the US have any say over any other country? What moral right do they have, given their history of involvement?

    Also, what mess has North Korea created? Or Iran for that matter?
  • rightondude
    rightondude Posts: 745
    PaperPlates wrote:
    I think your record player is skipping.

    did you miss the news today? it's doing the same thing no?

    here I'll hit the snooze button for you....<tap!>

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