"act of war", isreal moves into lebanon

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  • rightondude
    rightondude Posts: 745
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    Or we recognize that the world is full of evil people. We realize that sometimes you have to make friends with enemies in the short term. You all think diplomacy is the answer to everything. Guess what? Why haven't we solved the North Korean crisis yet? Iran? We're going to have to give North Korea Georgia if they're ever going to change their ways. Yeah, we're pissed at the way the world is working right now. But we don't automatically blame the US. It's China's fault we're having problems in North Korea. It's the money hungry Russians who won't help with Iran. You all want world government, and the Iran and North Korea problems to go away. Guess what, the world doesn't want to deal with them. The US does, and they're probably going to have to get their hands dirty to do it.

    Money hungry Russians... why are they money hungry again?

    you're putting the cart before the horse. You do know your US political history and practices right?

    China is sitting quietly stockpiling resources because they know the US is coming...

    Your philosophy is reality in reverse...
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    Commy wrote:
    Why does the US have any say over any other country? What moral right do they have, given their history of involvement?

    Also, what mess has North Korea created? Or Iran for that matter?

    Iran: Leader states that the Holocaust never happened, that Jews should be obliterated. Currently attempting to get a nuclear weapons program going. But it's just Jews, so you're okay with it I guess.

    North Korea: Unstable dictator who is killing his people. Goes against treaties and makes nuclear weapons, and is currently testing missiles intended to be able to reach Japan and the U.S. But, if it is of no worry for you, then it shouldn't be for me I guess.

    You freakin' hippies make me sick.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    rightondude wrote:
    Money hungry Russians... why are they money hungry again?

    you're putting the cart before the horse. You do know your US political history and practices right?

    China is sitting quietly stockpiling resources because they know the US is coming...

    Your philosophy is reality in reverse...

    I know my history. I know that when Europe needed help, we got the fuck in there and took care of business.

    The U.S. doesn't want to attack China. What we want is a fair, global economy. China has its own agenda. We aren't going to try to attack China, if that is what you are getting at. Only a fool believes that, so I hope you don't.

    I'm an American that is proud to be. I give my country the benefit of the doubt. I don't agree with everything, but I don't spend my existance scanning left-wing websites looking for articles to undermine anything the country does.
  • rightondude
    rightondude Posts: 745
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    I know my history. I know that when Europe needed help, we got the fuck in there and took care of business.

    The U.S. doesn't want to attack China. What we want is a fair, global economy. China has its own agenda. We aren't going to try to attack China, if that is what you are getting at. Only a fool believes that, so I hope you don't.

    I'm an American that is proud to be. I give my country the benefit of the doubt. I don't agree with everything, but I don't spend my existance scanning left-wing websites looking for articles to undermine anything the country does.

    Blind faith is exactly that...blind. On your same principles we should attack China then no? i.e. "get the job done"

    Question: What do you think you're really fighting for?
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    rightondude wrote:
    Blind faith is exactly that...blind. On your same principles we should attack China then no? i.e. "get the job done"

    Question: What do you think you're really fighting for?

    You are no less blind by your own definition than any of us.

    What are YOU really fighting for?>
    Why go home

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  • rightondude
    rightondude Posts: 745
    PaperPlates wrote:
    You are no less blind by your own definition than any of us.

    What are YOU really fighting for?>

    I love a question with a question scenario. I'm fighting against global idiocy.
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    I know my history. I know that when Europe needed help, we got the fuck in there and took care of business.


    only after we were attacked...

    i thought you knew your history :rolleyes:
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    bootlegger10 wrote:

    The U.S. doesn't want to attack China. What we want is a fair, global economy.


    regardless of workers or citizens rights :rolleyes:

    i find it funny that it is seems to always be the flag waving, "spread democracy with a gun", "freedom loving" americans that turn a blind eye towards us doing business with that beacon of freedom called china?


    you call it "fair and global trade"... thats classic!
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    my2hands wrote:
    only after we were attacked...

    i thought you knew your history :rolleyes:

    But weren't we secretly supplying Britain with weapons before hand? We would have been in that war anyway, and should have been in it since we were obviously in the position to help defeat those nazis.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    my2hands wrote:
    regardless of workers or citizens rights :rolleyes:

    i find it funny that it is seems to always be the flag waving, "spread democracy with a gun", "freedom loving" americans that turn a blind eye towards us doing business with that beacon of freedom called china?


    you call it "fair and global trade"... thats classic!

    Okay, then we'll attack them first. Then you'll complain about that too.

    I'm not turning a blind eye to China's human rights issues. China is a beast that has to change within, and it seems to be starting with economics as it is becoming more and more capitalistic. We have to trade with China regardless if our economy is going to make it in the years ahead.

    The world isn't a nice place. We're going to get our hands dirty every once in a while.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,263
    rightondude wrote:
    Blind faith is exactly that...blind. On your same principles we should attack China then no? i.e. "get the job done"

    Question: What do you think you're really fighting for?

    Truth, justice, and the American way. That's what I'm fighting for ;).
  • rightondude
    rightondude Posts: 745
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    The world isn't a nice place. We're going to get our hands dirty every once in a
    while.

    Helps to wash them inbetween getting them dirty again though.
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    rightondude wrote:
    I love a question with a question scenario. I'm fighting against global idiocy.

    Kinda like the blind hunting the blind no?
    Why go home

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  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    my2hands wrote:
    regardless of workers or citizens rights :rolleyes:

    i find it funny that it is seems to always be the flag waving, "spread democracy with a gun", "freedom loving" americans that turn a blind eye towards us doing business with that beacon of freedom called china?


    you call it "fair and global trade"... thats classic!



    Yet ironically, if us "flag waving, "spread democracy with a gun", "freedom loving" americans" decided to cut all trade off with china, and let them suffer and their econmy try and stand on its own, you'd be crying about the heartless cons letting chinese babies die. We (the US in general) can't win with you people. Maybe you really should just leave and go make your own fucking country.
    Why go home

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  • rationalthought
    rationalthought Posts: 15
    PaperPlates wrote:
    Yet ironically, if us "flag waving, "spread democracy with a gun", "freedom loving" americans" decided to cut all trade off with china, and let them suffer and their econmy try and stand on its own, you'd be crying about the heartless cons letting chinese babies die. We (the US in general) can't win with you people. Maybe you really should just leave and go make your own fucking country.

    This board is populated by communists, socialists, half-retards and combinations of the three. There's no point in debating anything with them; it's like talking politics with your dog.
  • PaperPlates
    PaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    rationalthought wrote:
    This board is populated by communists, socialists, half-retards and combinations of the three. There's no point in debating anything with them; it's like talking politics with your dog.
    Ouch.

    Maybe that could be their motto. Or the site's new header. ;)
    Why go home

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  • twisztad
    twisztad Posts: 49
    bootlegger10 wrote:
    I know my history. I know that when Europe needed help, we got the fuck in there and took care of business.

    You know youre history, haha. Go back to playing Medal Of Honour, at least there the Americans beat the Nazi's single handedly.

    we got the fuck in there and took care of business. hahahaha
    Even though I know I am, I still cast no shadow.

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  • siochan
    siochan Posts: 304
    El_Kabong wrote:
    they also buy bulldozers from caterpillar then modify them for the idf

    I've been part of a campaign to boycott Caterpillar for the past six or seven years..... the campaign intensified after the murder of Rachel Corrie.

    Anyhow what we discovered was that caterpillar company itself specifically designs and modifies their machines to cause maximum damage when destroying Palestinian homes, land, crops, water systems, etc.
    The IOF apparently outlining the effects they wish from the equipment and therefore they are designed for the specific outlined effect by caterpillar
    " You cannot throw a rope around the neck of an idea" .....Bobby Sands.
  • Pacomc79
    Pacomc79 Posts: 9,404
    ok so after last nights retaliation, should we get ready for the retaliation of the retaliation?

    Why can't the parties involved see how fucking ridiculous it all is?
    My Girlfriend said to me..."How many guitars do you need?" and I replied...."How many pairs of shoes do you need?" She got really quiet.
  • rightondude
    rightondude Posts: 745
    Pacomc79 wrote:
    ok so after last nights retaliation, should we get ready for the retaliation of the retaliation?

    Why can't the parties involved see how fucking ridiculous it all is?

    That my friend is a really good question! Rediculous it is indeed.

    Makes one begin to wonder what the heck is really going on.

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