I pity Religous People

LanceUppercut

Not all religous people, just the ones that total player haters to any other belief that isn't thier religous belief. The ones that believe that thier religous rules should be law. The ones who are constantly trying to "recruit" new members.

As much as you want to, you cann't choose your beliefs. So saying you pity people for not believeing in god is almost like saying you pity people for begin a different race. the person cann't do anything about it. You cann't say to a person, "believe in god" and the other person will. This narrow-mindedness is the entire reason I pity you.

surferdude

LanceUppercut wrote:

Not all religous people, just the ones that total player haters to any other belief that isn't thier religous belief. The ones that believe that thier religous rules should be law. The ones who are constantly trying to "recruit" new members.

As much as you want to, you cann't choose your beliefs. So saying you pity people for not believeing in god is almost like saying you pity people for begin a different race. the person cann't do anything about it. You cann't say to a person, "believe in god" and the other person will. This narrow-mindedness is the entire reason I pity you.

Do you really think there's a need for this thread?

Milestone

Here's how I see it. If you have to try and 'recruit' people to your religion, then your religion sucks. It should be able to 'sell' itself.

That being said, I'm athiest....but believe in the golden rule. It's gotten me this far.

know1

Milestone wrote:

Here's how I see it. If you have to try and 'recruit' people to your religion, then your religion sucks. It should be able to 'sell' itself.

That being said, I'm athiest....but believe in the golden rule. It's gotten me this far.

So the comparatively small number of athiests should tell you something about that line of thinking based upon your argument above.

Pearl Jam and toast

surferdude wrote:

Do you really think there's a need for this thread?

nope.


but still..

amen.

sourdough

I'd like to remind you of the role religious people play in our society ranging from soup kitchens, food banks, charitable drives etc... The christian organizations exceed atheist groups, so before you start bashing, maybe we should be thinaking them until someone else is going to step up to the plate.

farfromglorified

"Pity for the guilty is treason to the innocent" - Ayn Rand

Milestone

know1 wrote:

So the comparatively small number of athiests should tell you something about that line of thinking based upon your argument above.

Not really. Athiests don't preach their beliefs, or take over countries and kill people because people don't think the same way.


It's not like I go to Athiest meetings or anything. It's just a word that means that I don't believe in God, Heaven, or Hell.

I think there are a large number of people who believe this way, but it's not really important, because we don't care.

Pearl Jam and toast

sourdough wrote:

I'd like to remind you of the role religious people play in our society ranging from soup kitchens, food banks, charitable drives etc... The christian organizations exceed atheist groups, so before you start bashing, maybe we should be thinaking them until someone else is going to step up to the plate.

yeah because only religious people do charitable things...?

There are a lot of really great people who are religious. And there are equally as many non-religious people who help others..

That was a really stupid thing to say, and brings to light that "holier than thou" mentality that the original post was condeming.

Besides that, he wasn't talking about the good people who happen to be religious, he made that very clear.

Milestone

sourdough wrote:

I'd like to remind you of the role religious people play in our society ranging from soup kitchens, food banks, charitable drives etc... The christian organizations exceed atheist groups, so before you start bashing, maybe we should be thinaking them until someone else is going to step up to the plate.

I don't know why people believe that there is an official 'athiest' group. We just simply don't practice a religion.

In regards to charitable examples, I'm really glad that christians are doing those. It is a small step in making up for all the other atrocities christians have committed over the course of history.

RockinInCanada

What bugs me is the intolerance people show to different groups...this applies to everyone...religion is personal in my opinion...be it your an atheist, Christian, Hebrew, Muslim, gnostic,etc.

One should never preach their religion to others about what is inherently right or wrong...everyone should respect each for what they believe in and in turn those with very strong beliefs should have the respect to those who do not belief in what they do....religion is a spiritual aspect of humanity that no one can prove within our realm of reality...hence why it is a belief...its not something we can prove through the material realm or with physical evidence....its spiritual so essentially it embodies indvidualism...you are what you are....if someones beliefs in one God are different than the other persons gods there should be no right or wrong....my point keep your preaching to yourself...if someone wants to hear it they will ask...do not force your beliefs upon others cause there is nothing to prove who is right and wrong....mutual respect is needed....in turn many people have died in the name of religion but that came as an effect of forcing and not willing to accept different spiritual beliefs....in esscence religion itself hs not caused millions of deaths...its the intolerant involed with religion using it as a control that has led to millions of deaths...those who truly value their beliefs and respect those of others would never kill in the name of their belief....

even flow?

Why should we pity anybody at all? Unless they are truly pure and innocent is there really a need to?

farfromglorified

even flow? wrote:

Why should we pity anybody at all? Unless they are truly pure and innocent is there really a need to?

This is the best post in either of these threads.

sourdough

Pearl Jam and toast wrote:

yeah because only religious people do charitable things...?

There are a lot of really great people who are religious. And there are equally as many non-religious people who help others..

That was a really stupid thing to say, and brings to light that "holier than thou" mentality that the original post was condeming.

Besides that, he wasn't talking about the good people who happen to be religious, he made that very clear.

I'm not saying that atheists don't do charitable things, I'm saying that Christians are leading the way. I say this as an atheist myself. If you look at who is running the soup kitchen and the food bank and such services, it is usually a church affiliate.

I am NOT a christian, but I give credit, where credit is due.

Pearl Jam and toast

Milestone wrote:

In regards to charitable examples, I'm really glad that christians are doing those. It is a small step in making up for all the other atrocities christians have committed over the course of history.

don't lump good people in with maniacs like that.


but don't pretend that some of the worst acts humanity has ever committed weren't in the name of christ either...

but, again, don't forget that the maniacle kings and such were reponsible, not jesus..


bleh. :rolleyes:

Milestone

Pearl Jam and toast wrote:

don't lump good people in with maniacs like that.


but don't pretend that some of the worst acts humanity has ever committed weren't in the name of christ either...

You're right. The rest of the worst acts of humanity were committed by other religions.

Pearl Jam and toast wrote:

but, again, don't forget that the maniacle kings and such were reponsible, not jesus..

Yeah.....all the kings that sought advice from the Pope and other highly ranked religious leaders.

Pearl Jam and toast

Milestone wrote:

Yeah.....all the kings that sought advice from the Pope and other highly ranked religious leaders.

yeah i know, i said don't blame jesus

I'm no big fan of christianity, but that Jesus was pretty cool...

MCG

LanceUppercut wrote:

Not all religous people, just the ones that total player haters

HAHAHAHAHA! I hate religous player haters too.

Rhinocerous Surprise

Milestone wrote:

I don't know why people believe that there is an official 'athiest' group. We just simply don't practice a religion.

Yeah, having an official 'atheists club' would make it sort of resemble...
A religion...;)

know1

Christian by Maya Angelou

When I say... "I am a Christian"
I'm not shouting "I'm clean livin."
I'm whispering "I was lost,"
Now I'm found and forgiven.

When I say..."I am a Christian"
I don't speak of this with pride.
I'm confessing that I stumble
and need CHRIST to be my guide.

When I say... "I am a Christian"
I'm not trying to be strong.
I'm professing that I'm weak
and need HIS strength to carry on.

When I say... "I am a Christian"
I'm not bragging of success.
I'm admitting I have failed
and need God to clean my mess.

When I say... "I am a Christian"
I'm not claiming to be perfect,
My flaws are far too visible
but, God believes I am worth it.

When I say... "I am a Christian"
I still feel the sting of pain,
I have my share of heartaches
So I call upon His name.

When I say... "I am a Christian"
I'm not holier than thou,
I'm just a simple sinner
who received God's good grace, somehow.

~Maya Angelou~

sourdough

Maybe we should have a club. With retreats, and outreach programs! Then we could open soup kitchens and spread our emancipation of religion with others! Brilliant!