why won't god heal amputees?

sweet adeline
sweet adeline Posts: 2,191
edited May 2008 in A Moving Train
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zDHJ4ztnldQ&feature=related

http://www.whywontgodhealamputees.com

would be interesting to hear what some in the christian community think about this video.
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  • Epic failure #1 came at 5 seconds in.

    The assumption that god works off of the premise of "logic" and "rationality" is unsubstantiated.

    And this coming from an "If-Ist".

    As in, i'm "iffy" about the whole concept of organized religion.

    ;)
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    Ok. During the first question, the statement is made that amputees get no miracles from God.

    What??

    Who can say that? How do we know an amputee did not get an answer to a prayer yesterday? A miraculous answer?? Or any other form of miracle?? In the midst of my mental illness days, I had OCD and bi-polar disorder that were active. And yet, my gum disease reversed itself totally! As noted by my dentist. Because I had one condition did not prevent me from receiving what I saw as miracles in other areas of my life.

    The statement that amputees get "no miracles from God" is a vast, sweeping assumption which indicates a biased intent of this video at the start.
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  • puremagic
    puremagic Posts: 1,907
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=zDHJ4ztnldQ&feature=related

    http://www.whywontgodhealamputees.com

    would be interesting to hear what some in the christian community think about this video.


    Before laying the problem before God, the question should be placed on the shoulders of mankind. Why won't mankind stop making bombs and land mines? Why does mankind continue to turn a blind eye to the carnage of its own making.

    You don't have to be a christian to answer this question, only human.
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  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    "you know that God completely ignores amputees when they pray for miracles..."


    what???

    edit: "how do you deal with this discrepency? As an intelligent person, you have to deal with it because it makes no sense"


    conclusion: Let he/she who deals with their own logical fallacies cast the first stone...
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  • sweet adeline
    sweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    angelica wrote:
    "you know that God completely ignores amputees when they pray for miracles..."


    what???

    edit: "how do you deal with this discrepency? As an intelligent person, you have to deal with it because it makes no sense"


    conclusion: Let he/she who deals with their own logical fallacies cast the first stone...

    symantics aside, i'd say that the majority of amputees would be praying for the their limbs to grow back and this is the miracle that is ignored.
  • sweet adeline
    sweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    puremagic wrote:
    Before laying the problem before God, the question should be placed on the shoulders of mankind. Why won't mankind stop making bombs and land mines? Why does mankind continue to turn a blind eye to the carnage of its own making.

    You don't have to be a christian to answer this question, only human.

    that assumes that all amputees lose limbs because of bombs or land mines. people lose limbs for other reasons, not just human carnage as you say.
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    symantics aside, i'd say that the majority of amputees would be praying for the their limbs to grow back and this is the miracle that is ignored.
    I don't consider a straw man argument "symantics".
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  • sweet adeline
    sweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    angelica wrote:
    I don't consider a straw man argument "symantics".

    ok. so if the question is "why won't god heal amputees who pray for their limbs back?" then would that be a better way of putting it?

    i get your point, but it doesn't explain or answer the question.
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    ok. so if the question is "why won't god heal amputees who pray for their limbs back?" then would that be a better way of putting it?

    i get your point, but it doesn't explain or answer the question.
    God doesn't answer prayers for many, many things. Or heal many with cancer, etc. Many Christians, or most anyone of most faiths don't understand this, and are seeking answers.


    I understand people logically search for answers regarding the alogical. It's a personal subjective search. The subjective experience is beyond logic. Using logic to disprove the alogical, or to prove a negative is an impossbility.

    Sure, you can emotionally spark many to say "yeah...see, God ISN'T real".... That's the nature of people...they are easily led by a good presentation.

    Still...it proves nothing!
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  • sweet adeline
    sweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    agree to disagree, cuz i like ya.
  • angelica
    angelica Posts: 6,038
    agree to disagree, cuz i like ya.
    ditto. :)
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  • Cosmo
    Cosmo Posts: 12,225
    Questions:
    If you lose your leg in an accident.. when you go to Heaven... is your leg back on or is your leg waiting for you there?
    What if you were born without legs... do you get a pair of legs in Heaven?
    What about people in wheelchairs? In Heaven, are they walking around?
    If so, does this also apply to the blind who can see and deaf people who can hear, too?
    What about retarded people? In Heaven... are they still retarded?
    And what about our pets? Are there pets in Heaven? If so... how did they get there? Do cats accept Jesus as their personal saviour? If not... why not? Wasn't our love for our pets real?
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  • puremagic
    puremagic Posts: 1,907
    that assumes that all amputees lose limbs because of bombs or land mines. people lose limbs for other reasons, not just human carnage as you say.


    I didn't address accidents, because frankly the title of the post (website) uses the word amputees because of the current world conflicts. The question could have alluded to a number of situations, cancer, hunger, blindness, or AIDS. Instead, it used amputees because it is current event problem for our returning soldiers and has been in and out of the media. Plus, the question limited the response to Christians. If there is but one God, what difference would it make who responded to the question.

    If it was question of why won't God heal something, it should have been something like cancer. An affliction that knows no race, no religion, no borders, no age. It is not man made, although it can be caused by man made products and activities. When you think of an amputee, your think accident, war, land mines, a birth defect or a psychopath who collects body parts.
    SIN EATERS--We take the moral excrement we find in this equation and we bury it down deep inside of us so that the rest of our case can stay pure. That is the job. We are morally indefensible and absolutely necessary.
  • sweet adeline
    sweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    puremagic wrote:
    If it was question of why won't God heal something, it should have been something like cancer. An affliction that knows no race, no religion, no borders, no age. It is not man made, although it can be caused by man made products and activities. When you think of an amputee, your think accident, war, land mines, a birth defect or a psychopath who collects body parts.

    i've heard plenty people who've claimed that their cancer went away through the power of prayer. i've yet to hear the same from an amputee.
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Maybe God feels that there's nothing wrong with amputees? They're good people, just like the rest of us.
  • wwfairfield
    wwfairfield Posts: 216
    better question..

    why didn't jesus know the planet was round??

    screw the amputees ... riddle me this batman
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    better question..

    why didn't jesus know the planet was round??

    screw the amputees ... riddle me this batman


    How do ya know he didn't?

    Discipline: "Do you think we should tell them?"
    Jesus: "No, their ignorance entertains me ..."
    Disciple: "Wh ... What?!"
    Jesus: "Oh, come off it ... I can't be an asshole just once while I'm down here?"
  • sweet adeline
    sweet adeline Posts: 2,191
    better question..

    why didn't jesus know the planet was round??

    screw the amputees ... riddle me this batman

    he was trying to save the native americans.

    "and i almost would've gotten away with it if it weren't for that meddling christopher columbus..." ;)
  • cornnifer
    cornnifer Posts: 2,130
    i once accidentally cut off my right arm just below the elbow. i spread a little Carmex on it and it grew back. i swear.


    Seriously, though, the web page states that "why won't God heal amputees?" is the "most important question we can ask about God". :rolleyes:

    i may be at risk of oversharing, but, about 7 years ago i lost a nut Lance Armstrong, Tom Green style. As a Christian myself, i never once prayed for it to miraculously grow back. Nor did i mock God when it didn't. This video and web site seriously make no sense. With that i remove myself from this "religious" discussion. Have fun.
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  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    cornnifer wrote:
    i once accidentally cut off my right arm just below the elbow. i spread a little Carmex on it and it grew back. i swear.


    Seriously, though, the web page states that "why won't God heal amputees?" is the "most important question we can ask about God". :rolleyes:

    i may be at risk of oversharing, but, about 7 years ago i lost a nut Lance Armstrong, Tom Green style. As a Christian myself, i never once prayed for it to miraculously grow back. Nor did i mock God when it didn't. This video and web site seriously make no sense. With that i remove myself from this "religious" discussion. Have fun.

    Usually, your posts about race issues make me want to shake some sense into you, but in this case, I cannot help but admire how you handled that situation. Kudos to you ...