he IS doing harm to the two party system which is the only realistic scenario right now.
he should form a new party called the woulda, coulda, shoulda party.
(didn't and won't)
I LOVE the fact that he harms the two major parties.
Those parties are not a realistic idea for anyone who wants to see our country change for the better. They always talk a mean game but fall so far from ever doing half the shit they say they will. Their buddies just keep get richer, corruption continues to grow and america continues to deteriorate.
That's the opposite of realistic...the Democratic Party being for and by the people is a plain out FAIRY TALE. Peroid
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Why should Nader feel responsible? He didn't call for the Iraq war and make the policies that sank our economy...sorry but your logic is off a bit here. Nader was the one giving us an alternative to those problems and telling us how the Dems and Reps were dragging us down a road of corporate power reigning over people's rights and representation. You guys decided to go along and vote for Gore who wasn't worth a shit and he lost because of it. Quit playing the blame game and own up....America gets the president she deserves. Everyone, each one of you, had the same opportunity to vote for whom ever they pleased and they picked Bush. No one automatically owes the Democratic Party their vote...what kind of shit is that?! That's supposed to be democracy????! What a croc of shit! If you'd bother reading these threads before coming in here spouting off, you'd know these silly and ignorant arguments have been shot down time and time again.
It's not happening because of people like YOU, stupidcorporatewhore. People like you who keep buying into the system...the same system that's not working for the american people and the same system that you'll start back to complaining about as soon as Obama is elected in. 'Oh this system sucks' 'They are corrupt and don't listen to us'....then it's 'Oh, I've got a bright idea! Let's keep supporting that horrible system we've been complaining about!' Brilliant guys, really.
Things don't change until people change them. And I'm out here trying. I stopped supporting something I disagree with. When will you?
What's unrealistic is to think we can keep voting in these ineffective parties who go against our best interest time and time again and that good will come of it or that our country will get better somehow.
'Be the Change you wish to see in the World' ~ Gandhi
If you want to see things change it HAS to start with YOU first.
Had to download "The star spangled banner" so I could play it while I read your response.
You have made oversimplification an art form.
third party is (not yet) realistic, so I choose from one of the two candidates that WILL be president.
Had to download "The star spangled banner" so I could play it while I read your response.
You have made oversimplification an art form.
third party is (not yet) realistic, so I choose from one of the two candidates that WILL be president.
that's the way it is.
Oversimplified?? Gee, I was thinking that was you. Great way to address my points, though. Gold star!
The person who will be president is the person who people vote for. I'm not voting for anyone simply because you think I should. That would be completely moronic. I suggest that anyone who feels they are obligated to vote for someone because everyone else is doing it, too...grow some individuality and think for yourselves. The line of reasoning they are pushing is complete and utter CRAP.
And when will 3rd parties be realistic enough to vote for if you guys keep spouting the same rhetoric every 4 years of why we shouldn't? I'm on the edge of my seat to hear the answer to this one!
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Had to download "The star spangled banner" so I could play it while I read your response.
You have made oversimplification an art form.
third party is (not yet) realistic, so I choose from one of the two candidates that WILL be president.
that's the way it is.
that's the way it is b/c YOU ALL keep it that way!!! the problem is most ppl here don't really seem to want change, they want FOLLOW a TREND. they want to wait for everyone else to do it and FOLLOW.
it's just odd hearing ppl spout their bullshit about how corrupt the 2 party system is and the electoral college and yet every 4 years they abondon all of that and instead support corrupt politicians who want to keep the electoral college (like obama, look at his voting record)
i would really like an answer to this one:
what year will i be able to vote 3rd party??? b/c i'm pretty sure you guys will never like the republican candidate.
you all just keep saying this is the way it is. but you fail to see the chains you have to this 2 party system are put there by YOU every 4 years by playing a part. change will never just magically fall into our laps, you have to have change as your intention and in your actions, and sorry but supporting the 2 party system is never gonna bring it.
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
so you supporting nader makes you better then anyone that doesnt? a vote for nader wont even change a pair of underwear. i wish it did, but it doesnt.
do you pay your federal taxes? if so then you are just as much to blame as the rest of us for this system, since you help fund it. sad but true.
Don't keep saying how sad it is that all we have are these 2 choices and then keep supporting it in the same breath. You must not think it's not damn sad to keep it in place every chance you get. Everyone has a vote, no votes belong to a certain party....so nothing is beyond our reach once we decide to finally break the cycle and get fed up enough to replace them. There's a lot of us that will not be voting Dem because they don't represent what we would like to see in Washington. Win or lose, I'm proud I'm making my vote reflect my true voice. Why would I waste my voice voting for Obama when I don't care for his politics? That makes no sense.
I don't mind paying taxes but that has shit to do with supporting candidates who don't deserve it.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
that's the way it is b/c YOU ALL keep it that way!!! the problem is most ppl here don't really seem to want change, they want FOLLOW a TREND. they want to wait for everyone else to do it and FOLLOW.
it's just odd hearing ppl spout their bullshit about how corrupt the 2 party system is and the electoral college and yet every 4 years they abondon all of that and instead support corrupt politicians who want to keep the electoral college (like obama, look at his voting record)
i would really like an answer to this one:
what year will i be able to vote 3rd party??? b/c i'm pretty sure you guys will never like the republican candidate.
you all just keep saying this is the way it is. but you fail to see the chains you have to this 2 party system are put there by YOU every 4 years by playing a part. change will never just magically fall into our laps, you have to have change as your intention and in your actions, and sorry but supporting the 2 party system is never gonna bring it.
I don't think that a third party is a bad idea.
we just disagree that it can make a difference anytime soon.
It would have to be a viable candidate with the funds and the Charisma to run a campaign with enough muscle to sway the american public.
Nader is a schlub. Can you imagine this guy negotiating with north Korea?
Don't keep saying how sad it is that all we have are these 2 choices and then keep supporting it in the same breath. You must not think it's not damn sad to keep it in place every chance you get. Everyone has a vote, no votes belong to a certain party....so nothing is beyond our reach once we decide to finally break the cycle and get fed up enough to replace them. There's a lot of us that will not be voting Dem because they don't represent what we would like to see in Washington. Win or lose, I'm proud I'm making my vote reflect my true voice. Why would I waste my voice voting for Obama when I don't care for his politics? That makes no sense.
I don't mind paying taxes but that has shit to do with supporting candidates who don't deserve it.
yeah, i know your views on this election. and i support your vote.
you dont mind paying your taxes? even though the majority of it gets funnelled into the military industrial complex and war machine? you pay for our nuclear aresenal... you paid for the Iraq war... you pay for the bomb that landed on that families home killing the 3 year old and her mother... you pay for weapon development... you pay for the militarization of space... you pay for the militarization of the planet... you pay for the empire... you pay the republicans and democrats salaries... you pay the corporate welfare
you happily pay for everything you despise... you pay for the exact "system" you despise... we are all financiers in this crooked game of empire, focus your anger in the right direction. that is my only point of the last few weeks abook. focus on the real problem. and the problem is not Obama. and the answer is not Nader.
check this out, the people are very nice and i have met a few. they are full of information. feel free to email one or 2 of the contacts and they will get back to you...
yeah, i know your views on this election. and i support your vote.
you dont mind paying your taxes? even though the majority of it gets funnelled into the military industrial complex and war machine? you pay for our nuclear aresenal... you paid for the Iraq war... you pay for the bomb that landed on that families home killing the 3 year old and her mother... you pay for weapon development... you pay for the militarization of space... you pay for the militarization of the planet... you pay for the empire... you pay the republicans and democrats salaries... you pay the corporate welfare
you happily pay for everything you despise... you pay for the exact "system" you despise... we are all financiers in this crooked game of empire, focus your anger in the right direction. that is my only point of the last few weeks abook. focus on the real problem. and the problem is not Obama. and the answer is not Nader.
check this out, the people are very nice and i have met a few. they are full of information. feel free to email one or 2 of the contacts and they will get back to you...
the system could care less about people arguing over the president, as long as the checks are rolling in
Of course, I don't want my tax money going to those things. Nader is the only candidate proposing to drastically trim down the bloated military budget and cut this crap out of having us strategically occupy the middle east with bases all the the place.
Obama wants to EXPAND and modernize the military.
So yeah, my vote makes sense for my stances on that.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
we just disagree that it can make a difference anytime soon.
It would have to be a viable candidate with the funds and the Charisma to run a campaign with enough muscle to sway the american public.
Nader is a schlub. Can you imagine this guy negotiating with north Korea?
Yes, I could. Nader is knowledgeable and very articulate. He handles questions head on and is very direct, going into great detail to describe his proposed solutions.
It would be quite refreshing to see that instead of the usual peddlers of bullshit we are so used to...who smile in your face, make promises and plot as soon as your back is turned.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Of course, I don't want my tax money going to those things. Nader is the only candidate proposing to drastically trim down the bloated military budget and cut this crap out of having us strategically occupy the middle east with bases all the the place.
Obama wants to EXPAND and modernize the military.
So yeah, my vote makes sense for my stances on that.
ok... so after the election is over... assuming nader doesnt win... what then? happily pay your taxes for another 4 years funding everything you despise? this is the toughest question. how far are you willing to go to stand up for your beliefs and your world.
i have actually though about a class action law suit against the federal government for midhandling my taxes and commiting crimes and atrocities with my tax money... the evidence is overwhelming and public knowledge... i would have to find one brave lawyer to do that one i think, can i put you on the list of plaintiffs
ok... so after the election is over... assuming nader doesnt win... what then? happily pay your taxes for another 4 years funding everything you despise? this is the toughest question. how far are you willing to go to stand up for your beliefs and your world.
i have actually though about a class action law suit against the federal government for midhandling my taxes and commiting crimes and atrocities with my tax money... the evidence is overwhelming and public knowledge... i would have to find one brave lawyer to do that one i think, can i put you on the list of plaintiffs
We will still see most of our tax money going to the military if Obama wins. How else is he going to expand and modernize it?
Hopefully enough people will get fed up with these 2 parties soon and we'll start seeing people in our govt who will actually change that. It didnt happen under Clinton, he was mediocre at the very best. We deserve better and I'm standing behind the belief that we can do better and it is possible if enough people start joining along. I'm willing to stand up against what I view as wrong for as long as it takes.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
so you supporting nader makes you better then anyone that doesnt? a vote for nader wont even change a pair of underwear. i wish it did, but it doesnt.
do you pay your federal taxes? if so then you are just as much to blame as the rest of us for this system, since you help fund it. sad but true.
never said that
and if you want change you have to ACT for change, not just sit and wait for it to fall in your lap or for everyone else to do it before you decide to join in
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
yeah, i know your views on this election. and i support your vote.
you dont mind paying your taxes? even though the majority of it gets funnelled into the military industrial complex and war machine? you pay for our nuclear aresenal... you paid for the Iraq war... you pay for the bomb that landed on that families home killing the 3 year old and her mother... you pay for weapon development... you pay for the militarization of space... you pay for the militarization of the planet... you pay for the empire... you pay the republicans and democrats salaries... you pay the corporate welfare
you happily pay for everything you despise... you pay for the exact "system" you despise... we are all financiers in this crooked game of empire, focus your anger in the right direction. that is my only point of the last few weeks abook. focus on the real problem. and the problem is not Obama. and the answer is not Nader.
check this out, the people are very nice and i have met a few. they are full of information. feel free to email one or 2 of the contacts and they will get back to you...
the system could care less about people arguing over the president, as long as the checks are rolling in
we may be guilty by paying taxes but at least we don't help perpetuate the system by voting for it time and time again
thanks for the link, reminds me of stranger than fiction
obama could care less about you arguing about your taxes being mishandled and he sure as hell won't stop mishandling them if he wins
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
didnt you and abook vote for Kerry? how about Gore?
Yes, as I've already stated numerous times, I voted for Kerry not Gore and I consider that vote to be a mistake now. I was voting for someone I believed in, I was voting out of fear. It's nice when we can inform ourselves more then admit and learn from our mistakes. We decided it was way past time to break this cycle.
If you want to tell people the truth, make them laugh, otherwise they'll kill you.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
i guess a few people wanted to just ignore the insider trading stuff...
oh well
lol how long did it take you to find that little nugget?? it's pretty telling that you have to dig something up that happened 38 or so years ago....
and i don't want to hear anything about anyone ignoring things from you
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
Yes, as I've already stated numerous times, I voted for Kerry not Gore and I consider that vote to be a mistake now. I was voting for someone I believed in, I was voting out of fear. It's nice when we can inform ourselves more then admit and learn from our mistakes. We decided it was way past time to break this cycle.
i think you missed my intention... it was to point out the hypocricy of pointing the finger of blame at everyone else for "perpetuating the system by voting for it"... when you guys voted for kerry on 2004... now you want to act all high and mighty like voting 3rd party is saving the world :rolleyes:
at least we don't help perpetuate the system by voting for it time and time again ~ el kabong, John Kerry supporter in 2004
thats been out there... there is no need for me to post it over and over again as i see that as a waste of energy
just wanted to pull the cape off of superman for a second as a reminder
no body ever claimed he was superman, in fact i never even said i was voting for him!
BUT i do think he's faaaaaaaar better than the 3 corporate candidates
i'll take over some 'insider trading' from back in 1970 over any of the shit that's been posted about obama that actually happened this millennium
standin above the crowd
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
I do see their policies aren't exactly the same. But it's more of the same bullshit.
The US government has been a corrupted system for quite a while, I don't think Obama, McCain or Hillary will change that.
Here's an analogy, say I'm against the Coca-Cola Company, McCain is good old Coke, Hillary is Coke light and Obama is Dasani. Different flavours, different drinks. You can say Coke and Coke light are bad for your health and Dasani water is more healthy, and it might be true, but it's still bottled by the same company.
Here's an analogy, say I'm against the Coca-Cola Company, McCain is good old Coke, Hillary is Coke light and Obama is Dasani. Different flavours, different drinks. You can say Coke and Coke light are bad for your health and Dasani water is more healthy, and it might be true, but it's still bottled by the same company.
so, to use your analogy...
We should convince everyone to switch from Coke to Wheat grass juice overnight?
Comments
I LOVE the fact that he harms the two major parties.
Those parties are not a realistic idea for anyone who wants to see our country change for the better. They always talk a mean game but fall so far from ever doing half the shit they say they will. Their buddies just keep get richer, corruption continues to grow and america continues to deteriorate.
That's the opposite of realistic...the Democratic Party being for and by the people is a plain out FAIRY TALE. Peroid
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Had to download "The star spangled banner" so I could play it while I read your response.
You have made oversimplification an art form.
third party is (not yet) realistic, so I choose from one of the two candidates that WILL be president.
that's the way it is.
Oversimplified?? Gee, I was thinking that was you. Great way to address my points, though. Gold star!
The person who will be president is the person who people vote for. I'm not voting for anyone simply because you think I should. That would be completely moronic. I suggest that anyone who feels they are obligated to vote for someone because everyone else is doing it, too...grow some individuality and think for yourselves. The line of reasoning they are pushing is complete and utter CRAP.
And when will 3rd parties be realistic enough to vote for if you guys keep spouting the same rhetoric every 4 years of why we shouldn't? I'm on the edge of my seat to hear the answer to this one!
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
that's the way it is b/c YOU ALL keep it that way!!! the problem is most ppl here don't really seem to want change, they want FOLLOW a TREND. they want to wait for everyone else to do it and FOLLOW.
it's just odd hearing ppl spout their bullshit about how corrupt the 2 party system is and the electoral college and yet every 4 years they abondon all of that and instead support corrupt politicians who want to keep the electoral college (like obama, look at his voting record)
i would really like an answer to this one:
what year will i be able to vote 3rd party??? b/c i'm pretty sure you guys will never like the republican candidate.
you all just keep saying this is the way it is. but you fail to see the chains you have to this 2 party system are put there by YOU every 4 years by playing a part. change will never just magically fall into our laps, you have to have change as your intention and in your actions, and sorry but supporting the 2 party system is never gonna bring it.
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
so you supporting nader makes you better then anyone that doesnt? a vote for nader wont even change a pair of underwear. i wish it did, but it doesnt.
do you pay your federal taxes? if so then you are just as much to blame as the rest of us for this system, since you help fund it. sad but true.
Don't keep saying how sad it is that all we have are these 2 choices and then keep supporting it in the same breath. You must not think it's not damn sad to keep it in place every chance you get. Everyone has a vote, no votes belong to a certain party....so nothing is beyond our reach once we decide to finally break the cycle and get fed up enough to replace them. There's a lot of us that will not be voting Dem because they don't represent what we would like to see in Washington. Win or lose, I'm proud I'm making my vote reflect my true voice. Why would I waste my voice voting for Obama when I don't care for his politics? That makes no sense.
I don't mind paying taxes but that has shit to do with supporting candidates who don't deserve it.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
I don't think that a third party is a bad idea.
we just disagree that it can make a difference anytime soon.
It would have to be a viable candidate with the funds and the Charisma to run a campaign with enough muscle to sway the american public.
Nader is a schlub. Can you imagine this guy negotiating with north Korea?
yeah, i know your views on this election. and i support your vote.
you dont mind paying your taxes? even though the majority of it gets funnelled into the military industrial complex and war machine? you pay for our nuclear aresenal... you paid for the Iraq war... you pay for the bomb that landed on that families home killing the 3 year old and her mother... you pay for weapon development... you pay for the militarization of space... you pay for the militarization of the planet... you pay for the empire... you pay the republicans and democrats salaries... you pay the corporate welfare
you happily pay for everything you despise... you pay for the exact "system" you despise... we are all financiers in this crooked game of empire, focus your anger in the right direction. that is my only point of the last few weeks abook. focus on the real problem. and the problem is not Obama. and the answer is not Nader.
check this out, the people are very nice and i have met a few. they are full of information. feel free to email one or 2 of the contacts and they will get back to you...
http://www.nwtrcc.org/
the system could care less about people arguing over the president, as long as the checks are rolling in
Of course, I don't want my tax money going to those things. Nader is the only candidate proposing to drastically trim down the bloated military budget and cut this crap out of having us strategically occupy the middle east with bases all the the place.
Obama wants to EXPAND and modernize the military.
So yeah, my vote makes sense for my stances on that.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
Yes, I could. Nader is knowledgeable and very articulate. He handles questions head on and is very direct, going into great detail to describe his proposed solutions.
It would be quite refreshing to see that instead of the usual peddlers of bullshit we are so used to...who smile in your face, make promises and plot as soon as your back is turned.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
ok... so after the election is over... assuming nader doesnt win... what then? happily pay your taxes for another 4 years funding everything you despise? this is the toughest question. how far are you willing to go to stand up for your beliefs and your world.
i have actually though about a class action law suit against the federal government for midhandling my taxes and commiting crimes and atrocities with my tax money... the evidence is overwhelming and public knowledge... i would have to find one brave lawyer to do that one i think, can i put you on the list of plaintiffs
We will still see most of our tax money going to the military if Obama wins. How else is he going to expand and modernize it?
Hopefully enough people will get fed up with these 2 parties soon and we'll start seeing people in our govt who will actually change that. It didnt happen under Clinton, he was mediocre at the very best. We deserve better and I'm standing behind the belief that we can do better and it is possible if enough people start joining along. I'm willing to stand up against what I view as wrong for as long as it takes.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
never said that
and if you want change you have to ACT for change, not just sit and wait for it to fall in your lap or for everyone else to do it before you decide to join in
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
we may be guilty by paying taxes but at least we don't help perpetuate the system by voting for it time and time again
thanks for the link, reminds me of stranger than fiction
obama could care less about you arguing about your taxes being mishandled and he sure as hell won't stop mishandling them if he wins
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
oh well
didnt you and abook vote for Kerry? how about Gore?
Yes, as I've already stated numerous times, I voted for Kerry not Gore and I consider that vote to be a mistake now. I was voting for someone I believed in, I was voting out of fear. It's nice when we can inform ourselves more then admit and learn from our mistakes. We decided it was way past time to break this cycle.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
compared to all the things I've posted on Obama, that story comes off a speck of sand....
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.
-Oscar Wilde
lol how long did it take you to find that little nugget?? it's pretty telling that you have to dig something up that happened 38 or so years ago....
and i don't want to hear anything about anyone ignoring things from you
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
i think you missed my intention... it was to point out the hypocricy of pointing the finger of blame at everyone else for "perpetuating the system by voting for it"... when you guys voted for kerry on 2004... now you want to act all high and mighty like voting 3rd party is saving the world :rolleyes:
at least we don't help perpetuate the system by voting for it time and time again ~ el kabong, John Kerry supporter in 2004
thats been out there... there is no need for me to post it over and over again as i see that as a waste of energy
just wanted to pull the cape off of superman for a second as a reminder
no body ever claimed he was superman, in fact i never even said i was voting for him!
BUT i do think he's faaaaaaaar better than the 3 corporate candidates
i'll take over some 'insider trading' from back in 1970 over any of the shit that's been posted about obama that actually happened this millennium
he had a voice that was strong and loud and
i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
eager to identify with
someone above the crowd
someone who seemed to feel the same
someone prepared to lead the way
McCain voter eh, that explains alot
A McWar presidency would be utterly disasterous. We are dangerously close to running the country off a cliff, if it can be righted at all.
You go ahead and vote for the "right thing" or the way it "should be".
I will be voting against McCain so he will not be president. The only way that will not happen is to vote for a Dem.
start looking for a realistic 3rd party candidate for 2012.
you know, like one who actually believes he can win.
McCain = Hillary = Obama
Picking the lesser of three evils is what it is, a vote for 'evil'.
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that is absolutely absurd...
anyone that thinks obama is the same as mccain is very confused
I meant it like this.
I do see their policies aren't exactly the same. But it's more of the same bullshit.
The US government has been a corrupted system for quite a while, I don't think Obama, McCain or Hillary will change that.
Here's an analogy, say I'm against the Coca-Cola Company, McCain is good old Coke, Hillary is Coke light and Obama is Dasani. Different flavours, different drinks. You can say Coke and Coke light are bad for your health and Dasani water is more healthy, and it might be true, but it's still bottled by the same company.
naděje umírá poslední
that's exactly what they said about Gore vs. Bush. It was Bullshit then, It's Bullshit now.
I all but guarentee you we would not be in Iraq if Gore had won the election.
give McWar the presidency he will take it as a pass for more Iraq and additional conflict and perhaps worse.
If you cannot see that, you are an immense fool.
so, to use your analogy...
We should convince everyone to switch from Coke to Wheat grass juice overnight?
yeah, good luck with that.