will this guy still go to heaven?
dunkman
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he's a vicar with over 55,000 pics of children. now obviously he is a sexual deviant of the worst kind... but he also believes in god... am i right in saying that he goes to heaven under the whole belief in god loophole that most death-row prisoners try?
he's a vicar with over 55,000 pics of children. now obviously he is a sexual deviant of the worst kind... but he also believes in god... am i right in saying that he goes to heaven under the whole belief in god loophole that most death-row prisoners try?
oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
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As long as he's a good boy on his deathbed, sincerely begs for forgiveness and accepts Jesus as his lord and savior.
The game is fixed for "true believers". Doesn't really matter what you do or what kind human being you are. Just believe and all things be forgiven.
Not believing is the only thing, unforgivable.
Sheesh, just typing that out illustrates it's absurdity ....it's lunacy.
I guess if you all want to harbor resentment against the guy for eternity, that's your prerogative.
And yes - I believe the answer is that if the person repents of their sins, God forgives them. It's not up to you and I to determine that.
...are those who've helped us.
Right 'round the corner could be bigger than ourselves.
I can't speak for God Himself, but I would like to think that he will not go to heaven. God protects the weak and the young I have been taught.
And as for this guy hiding behind a pulpit so he can abuse kids, then the only one behind him is Satan himself the faggot liar that he is.......(let's not get literall......ok?).
And as for Prison, since this dude is into men (well boys, kids etc) let's hope he has to be someone's bitch for a long time or better yet, a gang raped bitch which from what I hear is the jungle justice within the system that takes care of those types of people.
right?
Together we will float like angels.........
In the moment that you left the room, the album started skipping, goodbye to beauty shared with the ones that you love.........
In that case I'd rather be with Ghandi in a non-christian heaven.
Me too. Me too.
but if he really does, he will be forgiven and therefore will go to Heaven. but that will require that he will regret his sin(s) and ask for forgiveness.
I'm sure he will regret them alright, especially after some inmates enact prison justice on him loosing up his balloon knot.
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well it's none of my business what makes him regret what he's done.. really regret it! not regret it because of the punishment he has to suffer (or only regret being caught), but regret what he made all those kids and their families to go through. not to mention, he should regret having been "disloyal" to God.
:mad: He should hang by his grapes over an open furnace for eternity, the bastard. Screw that loophole, get it closed religious types, get it closed :mad:
not trying to start an argument.. but it's not really ours to close. we can't decide who goes to Heaven and who doesn't, I'm afraid.
well, maybe I'll make believe the loop hole doesn't exist for criminal as low as this bastard. I'll live my life a whole lot happier believing that.
first of all, I don't think it's a loop hole. not trying to defent the arse but really regretting something isn't necessarily easy or a load of laughs in any case. you don't get to Heaven by just saying "I believe in God", that might fool your fellow humans but not Himself.
but anyway, I don't think he really believes in God so I guess you don't have to worry.
Either will the millions of people that were born, for no fault of their own, in non Christian countries....so think about that....God knows 70% of his people will go to hell by default.
Was listening to Texas Governor Rick Perry the other day...and he was praying Gustav wouldn't become a hurricane...started thinking..okay, God creates hurricanes..soooo your praying against God? Just makes one head spin....
..I'm thinking Dubya and Rove will be in Heaven..and in that case I'd take hell anyday......plus the sinning and debatchery....yea...
so much thinly veiled prejudice here.
as to the subject at hand, i find it interesting the violence and hatred in here. i've noticed something in movies and tv and books these days. we've become totally desensitized. murderers, fraud, whatever. it doesn't scare us anymore and it doesn't disgust us and there is a mountain of excuses and rationalizations for all of them. crimes against children is all that's left. think about this next time you pick up a thriller about a serial killer or watch a tv show or movie about someone who is supposed to be some embodiment of evil. 9 times out of 10, they'll throw child abuse in there, because nothing else shocks us anymore. it's the last bastion.
not saying this guy doesn't deserve it, just saying there's something wrong with a culture that treats ted bundy as a celebrity and wears t-shirts for him and will only muster moral outrage when it's something like this involved.
I am sorry but won't those children who got abused and had their asses ripped apart remember that for eternity? Just a thought that may have not crossed your mind.
God of which knows all already knew what this guy was up to and still let him in to his house or worship. Ah yeah, there is something quite wrong with giving him a free pass because he will say he is sorry.
What they should do ala Family Guy is lay this priest on a couch nude with a razor sharp fan hovering just about where his erection would be then parade young boys in front of him until he gets what he deserves.
That certainly works in Hitler's favor... don't it?
Hail, Hail!!!
Sure. As long he believes that Jesus is going to be taking on the blame for all of his sins... a screw up here and there... no prob, put it on Jesus' tab. I maen... we're only human, right?
Hail, Hail!!!
People have done all kinds of terrible shit while believing in god. Hell, some of it has been done in god's name and people claiming they were under the direction of god.
Jesus... I've got 20,000 mp3's and that's pretty insane...
55,000?
This guy is thoroughly broken...
he'll get torn apart in jail...
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over specific principles, goals, and policies.
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Forgiveness is devine.. I am all for it. It is condemning the whos who in muslim humanitarian efforts to an eternity of suffering that is bad.
If you believe Jesus would send all muslims to hell for not worshiping him.. then Jesus is a fucking ass hole.
Matthew 7
"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them.
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' 23Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'
I agree. And the same goes for Allah.
He's a protestant Anglican so he's going to hell anyway
If he were Catholic he'd have the binding of the Vicar of Christ, Pope Benedict XVI!
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