If these fucking terrorists trying to blow up planes in the UK mean i can't fly to Du

sliverstain

dayan wrote:

How in God's fucking name is any of what you gave as the defining characteristics of Totalitarianism true of America?

YOU PEOPLE ARE SO STUPID YOU DON'T EVEN RECOGNIZE YOUR OWN ENEMIES FOR WHAT THEY ARE.

First, 2 words; Habeas Corpus.

Second, I know exactly where my enemies are. My enemies want to listen to my phone calls. They want to pass an act in congress that will see me forcibly drafted into military service. They want to take away what is left of my right to adequate healthcare and education. They want me to work longer, for less pay, and then to pay my hard earned dollars to them in order for them to take a slice before passing it to their friends at Carlyle, Bechtel, Helliburton, McDonnell Douglas, Boeing, etc etc. THey want my friends and family to inform their secret, unaccoutable police force if I have any ideas or thoughts that differ from their prescribed view of the world. My enemies want to limit me, my children and their children's right to clean air and drinking water in the name of profit and 'the econmomy'. My enemies have no repsect for the black people of this country, or for anybody who does not want to live by the thousands of rules they wish to impose upon me and ours.
My enemies allowed thousands to die in an American city one year ago, and left 250,000 homeless. 100,000 still are homless. My enemies want to drive the poor of the world, the majority, into even further poverty by those things they create call "Structural Adjustment Programmes", devised and deliveed by the IMF and the WOrld Bank, extensions of the Federal Reserve, a private consortium of privately owned banks.

My enemies are in Washington DC.

Chumfatty

sliverstain wrote:

As for the calm, sane fellow from above who called me an idiot, hey, thanks for the constructive advice.

You are welcome

sliverstain wrote:

People like me exist to stop people like you losing your freedoms, and to stop the people you idolise from raping whats left of this planet and its peoples.

You are my hero.

sliverstain wrote:

I mean, come on, you're all scared now like little sheep because the crooks at Scotland Yard say some Muslims may have tried to blow a plane up. "

Listen bud, I work for the 'authorities' and have been involed ( to a small degree) in issues relating to counter-terrorist measures and investigations into detering terroist behaviour. There is a clear threat and there is a huge a ongoing operation into infiltrating those who set about to kill people in the name of their beliefs. Armed with the knowledge I have, I genuinely believe that people working in these operations have averted a possible major event, on a level with the London Tube Bombing maybe bigger.

Although (as stated earlier) I don't always believe what I am told and feel 'Conspiracy nuts' have there place in promoting a 'don't believe everything you hear' attitude, (especially when the information is twisted by the media), I feel sad that you simply refuse to believe anything about this situation is genuine, that you cannot trust that Hundreds of people employed by the authorities go to work everyday in the interests of protecting millions of people from horrendous attacks. The special Branch office of Scotland yard isn't an empty office where two people cook up conspiracies to help drive the agendas of some poncey politician, I'd like to think that all the professionals involved have more integrity than that.

ladygooddiva

i don´t know why but today nothing will be again....
now everthing is really scary
and it seems that the MI5 know about this since months
and it seems the whole european secret services worked together since months ...
and if it is really like what some media expected it could be that pearl jam may cancel the whole european tour ....

come on air berlin for example canceled their whole great britain flights ....

maybe the secret services knows a lot more...


no handbacked are allowed anymore ....
etc...

FinsburyParkCarrots

ladygooddiva wrote:

i don´t know why but today nothing will be again....
now everthing is really scary
and it seems that the MI5 know about this since months
and it seems the whole european secret services worked together since months ...
and if it is really like what some media expected it could be that pearl jam may cancel the whole european tour ....

come on air berlin for example canceled their whole great britain flights ....

maybe the secret services knows a lot more...


no handbacked are allowed anymore ....
etc...

We'll have to do a whiparound, and hire PJ a private jet.

ladygooddiva

FinsburyParkCarrots wrote:

We'll have to do a whiparound, and hire PJ a private jet.

what means whiparound?
and i can´t hre pj a private jet...

but anyways i hope and pray that everthing will be allright for everyone over there ...and lets hope that the whole secret services over the world work good and don´t make mistakes...

V V

silverstain !! such a dirty name !

you know people i hear you all and i say you have to read the news with a pinch of salt !

Rich. we better start saving
Dunk looks like ferrys for us !

ladygooddiva

V V wrote:

silverstain !! such a dirty name !

you know people i hear you all and i say you have to read the news with a pinch of salt !

Rich. we better start saving
Dunk looks like ferrys for us !

sorry what???

sliverstain

Chumfatty wrote:

You are welcome



You are my hero.



Listen bud, I work for the 'authorities' and have been involed ( to a small degree) in issues relating to counter-terrorist measures and investigations into detering terroist behaviour. There is a clear threat and there is a huge a ongoing operation into infiltrating those who set about to kill people in the name of their beliefs. Armed with the knowledge I have, I genuinely believe that people working in these operations have averted a possible major event, on a level with the London Tube Bombing maybe bigger.

Although (as stated earlier) I don't always believe what I am told and feel 'Conspiracy nuts' have there place in promoting a 'don't believe everything you hear' attitude, (especially when the information is twisted by the media), I feel sad that you simply refuse to believe anything about this situation is genuine, that you cannot trust that Hundreds of people employed by the authorities go to work everyday in the interests of protecting millions of people from horrendous attacks. The special Branch office of Scotland yard isn't an empty office where two people cook up conspiracies to help drive the agendas of some poncey politician, I'd like to think that all the professionals involved have more integrity than that.

Hey, good luck to you in your work and all that, but where is this real threat?

How many convictions have there been since this war on terror began?

How many lives have been lost in Afghanistan and Iraq for this war on terror of yours?

How many billions of dollars and pounds have been spent on armaments, investigations, on the destruction of Muslim people for this worldwide long war on terror of yours?

If this is about protecting the people from death, from injury, Why not go investigate the corporations who pollute the world, who intentionally starve the poor south? Or maybe, off the top of my head, stop every fucker driving cars because, you know, thats a real, serious threat to my life, or drunk drivers, you know go and ban all alcohol.

Or maybe, you know, in th ename of protecting people's lives, go and investigate the bastards that cause all this.

I trust youve heard of where Downing Street is?

And maybe, just fucking maybe, Bud, you and the people you work with could just, for once, go and talk to the people you feel are threatening us so, and see WHY they are doing it, and WHAT can be done to stop them doing it.

But no, that would not be good for profit, would it, sir?

That would not be good for the Anglo-American Empire, would it?

V V

taking things with a pinch of salt!

as in not taking it too literaly or seriously not 100%

dunkman

ladygooddiva wrote:

sorry what???

oh the irony in this is almost too much!!

Gossard_Is_God

I due to fly to Algeria on saturday, all this news is making me nervous

chime

Gossard_Is_God wrote:

I due to fly to Algeria on saturday, all this news is making me nervous

This is my last day on the boards before you head off so just wanted to say hope all the travel goes smoothly (I'm off the boards to go to a wedding and one of the first things I thought of when I heard the news was them heading off on their honeymoon ) and hope you manage to have a good time on your trip if not I hope the time flies will see you at Reading

ladygooddiva

Gossard_Is_God wrote:

I due to fly to Algeria on saturday, all this news is making me nervous

hey, as it seems it only affect flights from/to us /great britain
but everywhere now is the security on high level now ...so i would go very very early to the airport ...but i don´t know wich airport are you flying from ...so if it´s heathrow i would call the airline.

dunkman

sliverstain wrote:

But no, that would not be good for profit, would it, sir?

That would not be good for the Anglo-American Empire, would it?

i know you keep mentioning about profits and finance, etc... you do realise that this latest threat will cost the UK many many millions of pounds!! stocks have already fallen in Airline companies... lost business due to cancelled flights... lost avation taxes and duty... not to mention the many millions if not billions now going to be lost to incoming tourism


and yet you think this latest threat is a ruse to fill us with fear... its obviously genuine or what does it actually achieve??? a fear of flying?

Gossard_Is_God

Chime wrote:

This is my last day on the boards before you head off so just wanted to say hope all the travel goes smoothly (I'm off the boards to go to a wedding and first thing I thought of when I heard the news was them heading off on their honeymoon ) and hope you manage to have a good time on your trip if not I hope the time flies

Awww thanks alot, im really not looking forward to going, so I hope the time flies, REAL QUICK. I really do. Reading tickets are in stock and ready for despatch, shame il probably miss it by a day, damn!!!

ladygooddiva

dunkman1974 wrote:

oh the irony in this is almost too much!!

in such case i don´t need any irony .....

belfast1

sliverstain wrote:

...And maybe, just fucking maybe, Bud, you and the people you work with could just, for once, go and talk to the people you feel are threatening us so, and see WHY they are doing it, and WHAT can be done to stop them doing it.

But no, that would not be good for profit, would it, sir?

That would not be good for the Anglo-American Empire, would it?

yeah lets talk to terrorists to see what they want

stu gee

sliverstain wrote:

This is all bollocks to further justify the 'long war on terror'.

Is anybody seriously believing this shit about the planes?

Does anybody take these security 'reports' and 'threat levels' seriously?

Does anybody seriously think our security services are that fucking competent?

Does anybody hold respect for the words uttered by the same people who brought us "WMDs in Iraq", "Jean De Menezes." or "Mohammed Abdul Kahar"?

It's the boy who cried wolf, over and over again...

And its deflecting the masses from the destruction in Lebanon, and in Iraq.

It stinks lads, it really fucking stinks.

I for one believe these threats are real.


I dont think some people will believe a terrorist threat is real until there are planes falling out of the sky, and even then they will probably cry conspiracy.

sliverstain

dunkman1974 wrote:

i know you keep mentioning about profits and finance, etc... you do realise that this latest threat will cost the UK many many millions of pounds!! stocks have already fallen in Airline companies... lost business due to cancelled flights... lost avation taxes and duty... not to mention the many millions if not billions now going to be lost to incoming tourism


and yet you think this latest threat is a ruse to fill us with fear... its obviously genuine or what does it actually achieve??? a fear of flying?

Stocks in airlines have fallen? Wow, that's gonna hurt us poor working class folk!

Stocks in airlines, profits from tourism, are pittance compared to stocks in and profits from Exxon, Shell, BP, Bechtel, Halliburton, Carlyle, McDonnell Douglas, and on and on and on.

All of which go through the roof when the US and Uk governments engage in wars and conflict under the name of a 'war on terror.'

Wars which are based on the governments desire to fight this 'war on terror', a desire given to them by the Corporations named above, whose arms reach right into the heart of our governments.

And it is 'incidents' like the one today which 'give' these governments the, in their eyes, legitimate right to start war and kill people in other countries.

See how all this is adding up yet?

sliverstain

belfast1 wrote:

yeah lets talk to terrorists to see what they want

Why not? It worked in Northern Ireland, didn't it?

Whats worse, a government that kills for profit, or a terrorist who kills for freedom?

Mandela, George Washington, Jomo Kenyatta, all branded terrorists in their time, all committed 'terror' acts to alert their oppressors to the pain they were enduring.