An historical day for Ireland

Heineken Helen

darkcrow wrote:

jerry should be starting on sunday. i think eddie was just worried about his fitness. Geordan is a great player but right now I do not think he is the "in form" guy. what we need to be worried about is Referee Steve Walsh who has said he will "come down hard" on ireland. refs really shouldnt be allowed to say that shit. they are supposed be unbias. irb should change the officials. anytway southern hemisphere refs suck.

but surely if Flannery was able to play at ALL last week, he's fit this week

Also look at the impact Murphy had when he came on for the ten minutes last week and he HAS been in form for Leicester, he'd an excellent game against Munster even scoring the try and was a contender for man of the match I'd say. It may be more to do with sticking with the Leinster backs... but why isn't he using the same format for the forwards? Cos the Munster pack is generally unstoppable so to disrupt that seems a little odd. I dunno though, I've a lot of faith in Eddie O'Sullivan - he's certainly no Steve Staunton :rolleyes: - and I'm sure he knows a lot more about the players and his reasons than I do so I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt I think cos he's enough players to mess around with without actually weakening the team and leaving great impact subs on the bench.

Heineken Helen

darkcrow wrote:

jerry should be starting on sunday. i think eddie was just worried about his fitness. Geordan is a great player but right now I do not think he is the "in form" guy. what we need to be worried about is Referee Steve Walsh who has said he will "come down hard" on ireland. refs really shouldnt be allowed to say that shit. they are supposed be unbias. irb should change the officials. anytway southern hemisphere refs suck.

I agree with you about the refs - I thought that was bloody ridiculous... but it was in the Star today that apparently Eddie has cleared that up with him, apparently he looked at the footage and realised he was wrong (which may not actually be true). I'd say he just realised his error in saying that... either way, they should have got another ref to fill in.

darkcrow

Heineken Helen wrote:

but surely if Flannery was able to play at ALL last week, he's fit this week

Also look at the impact Murphy had when he came on for the ten minutes last week and he HAS been in form for Leicester, he'd an excellent game against Munster even scoring the try and was a contender for man of the match I'd say. It may be more to do with sticking with the Leinster backs... but why isn't he using the same format for the forwards? Cos the Munster pack is generally unstoppable so to disrupt that seems a little odd. I dunno though, I've a lot of faith in Eddie O'Sullivan - he's certainly no Steve Staunton :rolleyes: - and I'm sure he knows a lot more about the players and his reasons than I do so I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt I think cos he's enough players to mess around with without actually weakening the team and leaving great impact subs on the bench.

apparently eddie has dropped andrew trimble to the bench... WHY??? he is fuckin immense.
on the jerry point.... he has been out for a couple of months and i guess eddie didnt want to throw him in. use him when the game is secure enough.

Heineken Helen

darkcrow wrote:

apparently eddie has dropped andrew trimble to the bench... WHY??? he is fuckin immense.
on the jerry point.... he has been out for a couple of months and i guess eddie didnt want to throw him in. use him when the game is secure enough.

Trimble may not even BE on the bench though if O'Driscoll plays I think... just Murphy. Well think of it this way though... D'Arcy, O'Driscoll, Horgan, Hickie, Murphy, Dempsey... If O'Driscoll's fit there's no WAY you could drop Hickie (the way HE'S playing at the moment, fuck he was like something out of Braveheart with the blood pumping down his face at the weekend ) or Horgan who would make ANY team in the world... Trimble's immense but he (and Ulster) hasn't actually been playing as well as any of the above for his club AND if you have 6 backs all capable of brilliance, you HAVE to go for experience, especially in a game like this... and it's hard to believe but Trimble hasn't actually been around that long

darkcrow

i cannot express how sad/upset/devistated i am.... we were so fucking close!

dunkman

i said you'd get humped

Heineken Helen

darkcrow wrote:

i cannot express how sad/upset/devistated i am.... we were so fucking close!

*ignoring dunk*

I agree... absolutely fucking devastated. What a great day, fabulous atmosphere, tense game to go with the occasion. I was standing in front of a big group of French guys on the hilll and we were all best friends before the match, they were even singing Irelands call and all that... but when the match started, the occasion didn't matter anymore. BUT... this was NOT the way it was supposed to go :( :( :(

I was listening to RTE1 commentary on my earphones but whenever the fields of athenry would kick off, I'd take them out and just think 'wow', it was amazing. We really thought we had it though with that penalty... 2 and a half fucking minutes to go and we had it won :eek: :eek: :eek: I'm still stunned... we stood there for about 15 mins after the match cos we just couldn't get our legs to work, til I realised the French team were doing a lap of fucking honour and I thought 'I'm not waiting for that' :( :( :(

darkcrow

the only thing i can say is at least there are possitives to look forward to the game against england. neil best was immense when he came on, darcy and horgan were working well, issac boss did a good job (dispite some nievity), and ronan is getting back on form. next game BO'D will be back and hpofully pete too. Jerry better start this time too. Rory is alright but not a first team choice.
edit: David Wallace (who i have never rated) amazed me. he was like a man possed. he was at the heart of every move. tireless on the field. he was doing what paul hsa failed to do for a second game.

i guess what we can say is for most of the game we were playing the rugby while the french were really cynical. you cant beat the all blacks playing the way the french did.

Heineken Helen

darkcrow wrote:

the only thing i can say is at least there are possitives to look forward to the game against england. neil best was immense when he came on, darcy and horgan were working well, issac boss did a good job (dispite some nievity), and ronan is getting back on form. next game BO'D will be back and hpofully pete too. Jerry better start this time too. Rory is alright but not a first team choice.
edit: David Wallace (who i have never rated) amazed me. he was like a man possed. he was at the heart of every move. tireless on the field. he was doing what paul hsa failed to do for a second game.

i guess what we can say is for most of the game we were playing the rugby while the french were really cynical. you cant beat the all blacks playing the way the french did.

D'Arcy was fucking unbelieveable... I'm not sure how it came out on the tv but watching in the stadium, he seemed to be absolutely everywhere... maybe cos he had to with Horgan apparently not being fully fit. Boss was great I think, he really opens the game up. Hickie also had a couple of nice chances. I couldn't believe Trimble that time when he had a try waiting for him and he fell to the ground :eek: the frustration was unreal. O'Gara's opened the first two games worryingly though, only really getting into them in the second half... ah well, the championship's still on and the triple crown.. which, in a grand slam/world cup year, means very little to me right now :(

moho

dunkman wrote:

i said you'd get humped

Well now... we weren't humped.... we just blew it at the end, we should have secured possesion at the end... Ah well bring on the English..... And then the Scots dunkman, you guys are going to get torn apart by that Irish team... No offence intended of course.


Ps. Never thought I would see a thread on here about Irish rugby... bloody hell! Pearl Jam fans have good taste in sport too!

Heineken Helen

moho wrote:

Well now... we weren't humped.... we just blew it at the end, we should have secured possesion at the end... Ah well bring on the English..... And then the Scots dunkman, you guys are going to get torn apart by that Irish team... No offence intended of course.


Ps. Never thought I would see a thread on here about Irish rugby... bloody hell! Pearl Jam fans have good taste in sport too!

Yip, we do. I fucking love it - can't watch the soccer at all since I became obsessed with rugby.

I still haven't seen that last try. I saw it at the match of course but it happened so fast and it would have hurt too much to watch the replay on the screen :( . Nobody here seems to know what happened . I had a friend recording the match for me and I'll watch it next weekend - but I'll watch it up to O'Gara's penalty and pretend we won

dunkman

moho wrote:

And then the Scots dunkman, you guys are going to get torn apart by that Irish team... No offence intended of course.

thats ok... i couldnt give a fuck if you beat us 43-0. i hate rugby due to it being shit.

darkcrow

dunkman wrote:

thats ok... i couldnt give a fuck if you beat us 43-0. i hate rugby due to it being shit.

if you dont like rugby why are you on this thread??

dunkman

darkcrow wrote:

if you dont like rugby why are you on this thread??

boredom + ireland getting beat = thread input

redrock

darkcrow wrote:

i cannot express how sad/upset/devistated i am.... we were so fucking close!

We???? Darkcrow.....!

redrock

Heineken Helen wrote:

BUT... this was NOT the way it was supposed to go :( :( :(
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It went exactly the way it was supposed to....

Heineken Helen wrote:

I realised the French team were doing a lap of fucking honour and I thought 'I'm not waiting for that' :( :( :(

Now where's your sportsmanship?

darkcrow

redrock wrote:

We???? Darkcrow.....!

well? i am still totally heartbroken :(

they should kill the ref. he was fucking shit! why did he blow the whistle when france knocked it on and geordan was free to get the try??? PLAY THE FUCKING ADVANTAGE YOU PRICK! argh!!!!!

Heineken Helen

redrock wrote:

It went exactly the way it was supposed to....




Now where's your sportsmanship?

I had my sportsmanship last night when I repaid my bets with the people who weren't trying to rub my face in it.

That wasn't the way it was supposed to be.

redrock

moho wrote:

... Ah well bring on the English.....

That's what was said about the french!

Heineken Helen

darkcrow wrote:

well? i am still totally heartbroken :(

they should kill the ref. he was fucking shit! why did he blow the whistle when france knocked it on and geordan was free to get the try??? PLAY THE FUCKING ADVANTAGE YOU PRICK! argh!!!!!

I know... I'd be surprised if he got out of the country alive. He really should never have been allowed to ref that match anyway.

Heineken Helen

redrock wrote:

That's what was said about the french!

where's YOUR sportsmanship?

The french we met yesterday were very respectful of the fact that people were pretty much in mourning whilst celebrating at the same time. We helped them celebrate and they drowned our sorrows... that's the way it should be. We were congratulated several times on our mentality, and they said they wish they could be like that when THEY lose. To compare, for us it was like France losing the world cup final to Italy.

dunkman

Heineken Helen wrote:

To compare, for us it was like France losing the world cup final to Italy.

i seriously doubt that... it wasnt that crucial a game.. you could still win the 6 nations... whereas France lost the World Cup in that game... not even comparable

redrock

Heineken Helen wrote:

where's YOUR sportsmanship?
.

Never said I had any! When I texted you that someone told me that France was going to be your worst nightmare you said it was bollox and bring on france!!!!

I am just responding to your taunts

(I did send you a text saying better luck next time )

Heineken Helen

dunkman wrote:

i seriously doubt that... it wasnt that crucial a game.. you could still win the 6 nations... whereas France lost the World Cup in that game... not even comparable

:rolleyes: Read the first post in this thread! You wouldn't understand the historical significance of a game like yesterdays so don't bother trying to tell ME what it was/was not like. If you were walking away from the stadium yesterday, it was like a funeral procession.

gaz

Heineken Helen wrote:

where's YOUR sportsmanship?

The french we met yesterday were very respectful of the fact that people were pretty much in mourning whilst celebrating at the same time. We helped them celebrate and they drowned our sorrows... that's the way it should be. We were congratulated several times on our mentality, and they said they wish they could be like that when THEY lose. To compare, for us it was like France losing the world cup final to Italy.

How can you compare Ireland losing a six nations match,with France losing the final of the biggest sporting tournament in the world?Get some perspective.I agree the ref had a shocker,but Ireland only woke up after about 25 mins at which point the french should have been about 20pts clear and how we got to half time only 2 points down is a fuckin mystery.France are by far the best team in the tournament this year and they will beat everybody.If Ireland start like that against England in two weeks they will punish Ireland when France did'nt,how hard would that be to take?In my opinion,Ireland showed a lot of bravery in the second half,especially that last maul,ultimately France showed their quality.It's not a nice way to lose but the French deserved it.I just hope we beat England,I could'nt bear to see them leave Croke park with the spoils,c'mon lads play from the first fucking whistle and get at least a triple crown and head for the World cup in confidence.

dunkman

Heineken Helen wrote:

If you were walking away from the stadium yesterday, it was like a funeral procession.

most defeats are like that

Heineken Helen

redrock wrote:

Never said I had any! When I texted you that someone told me that France was going to be your worst nightmare you said it was bollox and bring on france!!!!

I am just responding to your taunts

(I did send you a text saying better luck next time )

Yes I know and somehow it was the only text that anyone could get through to me straight after the match

Don't mind me, I'm just devastated today so leave me alone :(

Yes, there was taunting beforehand but we weren't gonna slag anyone. Even the guys we had the bet on to buy the drink if you lose, my friend and I decided if we won we'd buy them the drink anyway cos they'd be upset. And in fairness, nobody slagged me last night. One fella did get a couple of slaps though :mad: he told me to get my tits out :eek: I slapped him, then he said 'oh I'm sorry, I thought you were English' :eek: so he got another slap. What a prick! An older guy in his company came over to apologise though.

dunkman

gaz wrote:

How can you compare Ireland losing a six nations match,with France losing the final of the biggest sporting tournament in the world?Get some perspective..

that was sorta my point as well... France LOST the world cup on that night... Ireland only lost a game, and so they can still win the tournament.. its a defeat but its not like Ireland have walked out of the competition :rolleyes:

Heineken Helen

gaz wrote:

How can you compare Ireland losing a six nations match,with France losing the final of the biggest sporting tournament in the world?Get some perspective.

well that's how it felt to me lol, I love the way you all seem to know how I feel.

Heineken Helen

dunkman wrote:

that was sorta my point as well... France LOST the world cup on that night... Ireland only lost a game, and so they can still win the tournament.. its a defeat but its not like Ireland have walked out of the competition :rolleyes:

honestly, stop! You just haven't got a clue and I'm not going to keep going on and on about it. Yesterday was more than just a game. The people who were there and most watching it at home understand that. You apparently dont so leave it.