Going to the US?

dunkman

Heineken Helen wrote:

they're not people... they're celebs different rule... although Amy Winehouse was banned, wasn't she? Snoop dogg is banned from the UK I believe. Have a look at the US immigration site... that's where I got my information from... NOT thin air . Of course there will always be exceptions to the rule... even strong rules like this, there are minimal exceptions. But I don't think the average person can expect the same treatment as Paul McCartney in todays celeb worshipping world, do you?

i have a criminal record... i can get in.

my father in law's friend is currently in Colorado... he has one...

as i said about 20 posts back... it is possible but they need to know the level of that convinction... hence the background checking....

oh, Donald, who you met in London.. he has one for throwing a bottle away in the street... he's been 3 times and was married in Vegas.

if somebody already has any conviction they won't be allowed in anyway... the only people allowed in are those with NO criminal records... so I don't see how that's relevant?

thats just not true.

Heineken Helen

dunkman wrote:

i have a criminal record... i can get in.

my father in law's friend is currently in Colorado... he has one...

as i said about 20 posts back... it is possible but they need to know the level of that convinction... hence the background checking....

oh, Donald, who you met in London.. he has one for throwing a bottle away in the street... he's been 3 times and was married in Vegas.



thats just not true.

:rolleyes: read the immigration site. You're picking holes here cos you know of SOME exceptions :rolleyes: no surprise there! You've a criminal record?

dunkman

Heineken Helen wrote:

:rolleyes: read the immigration site. You're picking holes here cos you know of SOME exceptions :rolleyes: no surprise there! You've a criminal record?

i've read it again

The traveler will also be required to answer VWP eligibility questions regarding communicable diseases, arrests and convictions for certain crimes, and past history of visa revocation or deportation, among others.

all i'm saying is that you make blanket statements about things without backing them up... you say about the debit card. not true.. then you say about anyone who has a criminal conviction cannot get into america... not true..

i have a legally spent criminal conviction... (but i still have to declare it when entering the US/NZ/AUS) it was from a long time ago!! i didnt go to jail or anything... was fined.. 13 years ago i think it was.

Heineken Helen

dunkman wrote:

i've read it again

The traveler will also be required to answer VWP eligibility questions regarding communicable diseases, arrests and convictions for certain crimes, and past history of visa revocation or deportation, among others.

all i'm saying is that you make blanket statements about things without backing them up... you say about the debit card. not true.. then you say about anyone who has a criminal conviction cannot get into america... not true..

i have a legally spent criminal conviction... (but i still have to declare it when entering the US/NZ/AUS) it was from a long time ago!! i didnt go to jail or anything... was fined.. 13 years ago i think it was.

So I was wrong about the debit card... do you have to bring it up in every thread since? Reminds me of a certain banned poster. You've been wrong about a lot and I've let it go... get over it. Thread integrity. I'm not entirely wrong... it says it on the site... I know people with non violent convictions who have been refused entry. I don't know anyone with a conviction who has got in.

Hinny

If the way they process mailed-in visa waiver forms is anything to go by, storing details is all they'll do- they'd prolly take 15 years to retrieve the info if some guy on their records commits an international crime.

I've mailed in my VWP entry/exit form in April after I accidentally took it away instead of just leaving it behind at the Canadian border. Still no reply, so I have no idea if I'm eligible for reentry under the VWP. Fuckers.

fanch75

Heineken Helen wrote:

So I was wrong about the debit card... do you have to bring it up in every thread since? Reminds me of a certain banned poster. You've been wrong about a lot and I've let it go... get over it. Thread integrity. I'm not entirely wrong... it says it on the site... I know people with non violent convictions who have been refused entry. I don't know anyone with a conviction who has got in.

http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/06/27/104-girls-with-bangs/

Stuff White People Like
#104 Girls with Bangs
June 27, 2008 by clander

If you see a white woman and you are trying to figure out whether she is liked or just merely tolerated by white people, the best thing you can do is get a quick look at her haircut. It is a known fact that white people love women who wear their hair with bangs that hang straight down.

A number of very popular white women have worn this hairstyle including Joni Mitchell, Jane Birkin, Jenny Lewis and every girl ever photographed by Vice Magazine or the Cobrasnake. (Note: it is a good idea to familiarize yourself with these two things as they are both beloved by cool white people. Follow up note: these same things are hated by cooler white people).

Many people associate this type of haircut with children and people looking for the most efficient way to get hair out of their eyes. But for white people, this simple haircut makes a bold declaration by saying that the wearer is artistic, deep, and has probably dated a guy in a band you like. Of course, as with many things loved by white people, simple often means expensive and these haircuts usually cost upwards of $100.

It is essential for you to know this haircut is more than a mere fashion statement– it is an important cultural marking. Throughout the world, many cultures feature ceremonies to announce that a girl has become a woman. For white people, the haircut-with-bangs is an important symbol that a female has completed her transformation from a nerdy girl to a cool woman. In fact, if you went to high school with a nerdy white girl who moved to a big city, there is a good chance she will show up to your high school reunion with this haircut.

When you are introduced to a group of white people, it’s a good idea to befriend the girl with the bangs. She’s probably the most popular.

Heineken Helen

fanch75 wrote:

http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/06/27/104-girls-with-bangs/

Stuff White People Like
#104 Girls with Bangs
June 27, 2008 by clander

If you see a white woman and you are trying to figure out whether she is liked or just merely tolerated by white people, the best thing you can do is get a quick look at her haircut. It is a known fact that white people love women who wear their hair with bangs that hang straight down.

A number of very popular white women have worn this hairstyle including Joni Mitchell, Jane Birkin, Jenny Lewis and every girl ever photographed by Vice Magazine or the Cobrasnake. (Note: it is a good idea to familiarize yourself with these two things as they are both beloved by cool white people. Follow up note: these same things are hated by cooler white people).

Many people associate this type of haircut with children and people looking for the most efficient way to get hair out of their eyes. But for white people, this simple haircut makes a bold declaration by saying that the wearer is artistic, deep, and has probably dated a guy in a band you like. Of course, as with many things loved by white people, simple often means expensive and these haircuts usually cost upwards of $100.

It is essential for you to know this haircut is more than a mere fashion statement– it is an important cultural marking. Throughout the world, many cultures feature ceremonies to announce that a girl has become a woman. For white people, the haircut-with-bangs is an important symbol that a female has completed her transformation from a nerdy girl to a cool woman. In fact, if you went to high school with a nerdy white girl who moved to a big city, there is a good chance she will show up to your high school reunion with this haircut.

When you are introduced to a group of white people, it’s a good idea to befriend the girl with the bangs. She’s probably the most popular.

I don't have 'bangs' :rolleyes: and how's that got anything to do with thread integrity?

Rhinocerous Surprise

Heineken Helen wrote:

I don't have 'bangs' :rolleyes: and how's that got anything to do with thread integrity?

I was just thinking that whenever Fanch makes those posts, it reminds me of those chimps that are trained to communicate by pointing at pictures.

"What's that Fanchie? Old man Whitey fell down the well?"

Heineken Helen

Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:

I was just thinking that whenever Fanch makes those posts, it reminds me of those chimps that are trained to communicate by pointing at pictures.

"What's that Fanchie? Old man Whitey fell down the well?"

LMFAO it did get rather old after probably the 2nd one :rolleyes:

noodles_jefferson

Heineken Helen wrote:

I've nothing against Americans. I love your country and want to see all of it. But your government doesn't seem to want tourists... and this is making me think LONG and hard about ever going back... (

don't bother, I wouldn't. if Mccain wins, i think I'm moving to your side of the pond.

Heineken Helen

noodles_jefferson wrote:

don't bother, I wouldn't. if Mccain wins, i think I'm moving to your side of the pond.

but ya know all the touring is going on over on YOUR side!

fanch75

noodles_jefferson wrote:

if Mccain wins, i think I'm moving to your side of the pond.

http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/02/24/75-threatening-to-move-to-canada/

Stuff White People Like
#75 Threatening to Move to Canada
February 24, 2008 by clander

Often times, white people get frustrated with the state of their country. They do not like the President, or Congress, or the health care system, or the illegal status of Marijuana. Whenever they are presented with a situation that seems unreasonable to them, their first instinct is to threaten to move to Canada.

For example, if you are watching TV with white people and there is a piece on the news about that they do not agree with, they are likely to declare “ok, that’s it, I’m moving to Canada.”

Though they will never actually move to Canada, the act of declaring that they are willing to undertake the journey is very symbolic in white culture. It shows that their dedication to their lifestyle and beliefs are so strong, that they would consider packing up their entire lives and moving to a country that is only slightly different to the one they live in now.

Within white culture, it is agreed upon that if Canada had better weather it would be a perfect place.

Being aware that this information can be used quite easily to gain the trust of white people. Whenever they say, “I’m moving to Canada,” you must immediately respond with “I have relatives in Canada.”

They will then expect you to tell them about how Canada has a perfect healthcare system, legalized everything, and no crime. Though not true, it will reassure them that they are making the right choice by saying they want to move there.

But be warned, they will reference you in future conversations and possibly call on you to settle disputes about Canadian tax rates. So use this advice only if you plan to do some basic research.

Note: Canadian white people threaten to move to Europe.

Note: Europeans are unable to threaten to move anywhere.

Heineken Helen

since when is Ireland in canada?

Seriously, knock it off... it's boring having to scroll through countless 'white people' bullshit. And I've probably seen them all at LEAST 5 times now :rolleyes: and it's complete derailment.

Rhinocerous Surprise

http://www.freewebs.com/stuffrhinolikes/sayingwhatsthatfanchie.htm

Stuff Rhino Likes
#26 Saying "What's that Fanchie? Old man Whitey fell down the well?"
2nd July 2008

Often times, Rhino gets frustrated scrolling through pointless copy-and-paste rants. He doesn't like the "humourous" racism, or the blatant laziness of basing most of your posts around stuff we could easily read on a website we've been linked to dozens of times previously thankyouverymuch. Whenever confronted with these posts, he will relentlessly compare the poster to a chimp pointing at a picture of a banana to indicate that he's hungry.

For example, when a thread about security restriction on tourism in the US is somehow derailed into talking about white girls' hairstyles, he is likely to declare "What's that Fanchie? Old man Whitey fell down the well?"

Though Old Man Whitey is a fictional character - a cunning metaphor for the "white people" so often referenced - and therefore, will never actually fall down the well, the act of talking about it is very symbolic on the Pit. It shows that some people don't actually enjoy reading the same articles word for word again and again in some half-hearted attempt at a funny response to a thread.

fanch75

Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:

Stuff Rhino Likes
#26 Saying "What's that Fanchie? Old man Whitey fell down the well?"
2nd July 2008

Often times, Rhino gets frustrated scrolling through pointless copy-and-paste rants. He doesn't like the "humourous" racism, or the blatant laziness of basing most of your posts around stuff we could easily read on a website we've been linked to dozens of times previously thankyouverymuch. Whenever confronted with these posts, he will relentlessly compare the poster to a chimp pointing at a picture of a banana to indicate that he's hungry.

For example, when a thread about security restriction on tourism in the US is somehow derailed into talking about white girls' hairstyles, he is likely to declare "What's that Fanchie? Old man Whitey fell down the well?"

Though Old Man Whitey is a fictional character - a cunning metaphor for the "white people" so often referenced - and therefore, will never actually fall down the well, the act of talking about it is very symbolic on the Pit. It shows that some people don't actually enjoy reading the same articles word for word again and again in some half-hearted attempt at a funny response to a thread.

Rhino - well done! I am very impressed with your style. You hate the posts, yet you use the style in order to be funny. This is an excellent use of white person irony.

Stuff White People Like
#50 Irony
February 3, 2008 by clander

White people hate a lot of stuff (white people who vote republican, television, Vin Diesel movies, SUVs, fast food) but every once in a while they turn that hate into sweet irony.

Often times, white people will make a joke about how hard it is to define irony. It’s not that funny, and back in the 1990s people got all upset at Alanis Morrisette for using the term improperly in her song “Isn’t it Ironic?”

But the reason that white people love irony is that it lets them have some fun and feel better about themselves.

The most horrific recent example is Trucker hats, that shockingly went from mainstream in the 80s to Ironic in the early 2000s back to mainstream, at which point they are no longer rare or unique. Once something reaches this stage, irony cannot be restored for 10 years.

Other examples would include white people getting together to have a ‘white trash’ night where they would eat Kentucky Fried Chicken, drink Bud Light and watch Larry the Cable Guy or The Marine. Maybe listen to Kid Rock or P.O.D. These events allow white people to experience things they are supposed to hate, all while feeling better about their own lives, decisions, and cultured tastes.

Occassionally, white people will put an ironic knick knack in their home or apartment such as a “Support our Troops” magnet or a bottle of Mickey’s.

This can be used to your advantage. If you need to appear cool to white people, you just need to pick something that was popular 10+ years ago and put it in a prominent place at your desk or in your home. A C+C Music Factory Cassette, or a “2 Legit 2 Quit” t-shirt would both be acceptable examples.

Also, you might find yourself in conversation where you mention that you like something and there is an awkward silence indicating that it is not cool. In this situation, uou must say “oh yeah, I also like [insert similar things]” and smile, the white people will laugh and all will be well.

eyedclaar

Heineken Helen wrote:

Oooooooooooohhh dunk, 2 government workers disagreeing with you, eh?

Unfortunately eyedclaar, I think freedom is only an illusion these days. We're only free to do what we're allowed to do :(

I break laws every day of my life. Of course, they are laws I don't agree with. But any background check on me would reveal a model citizen. I still do what I want, I just do it smarter...

blackredyellow

eyedclaar wrote:

I break laws every day of my life. Of course, they are laws I don't agree with. But any background check on me would reveal a model citizen. I still do what I want, I just do it smarter...

You break laws???? Then you should be shot by Joe Horn!

eyedclaar

blackredyellow wrote:

You break laws???? Then you should be shot by Joe Horn!

I know. I totally deserve it. I can't even get my work done because I keep looking over my shoulder to see if he's sneaking up behind me...

dunkman

Stuff Fanch Likes
#58 the Alanis Morisette's version of Irony obviously AND the CTRL + C rhythm method
July 3, 2008 by lunglicker

Fanch is a well educated man, and so his interpretation of irony is therefore ironic. Although posting these Stuff White People Like blurbs is actually ironic as Fanch is white and it's only white people can use CTRL + C to such great 'humorous' effect. Black people are unable to CTRL + C as they wont touch a key that says 'control' as thats what the white man has done to them for generations upon generations.

as Chuck D once said... "In every one of us there are two ruling and directing principles, whose guidance we follow wherever they may lead; the one being an innate desire of pleasure; the other, an acquired judgment which aspires after excellence."

JaneNY

Helen, I totally understand your concerns. IMO, the U.S. doesn't deserve your travel dollars. I hope Pearl Jam/Ed goes back to Europe for you.

noodles_jefferson

fanch75 wrote:

http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/02/24/75-threatening-to-move-to-canada/

Stuff White People Like
#75 Threatening to Move to Canada
February 24, 2008 by clander

Often times, white people get frustrated with the state of their country. They do not like the President, or Congress, or the health care system, or the illegal status of Marijuana. Whenever they are presented with a situation that seems unreasonable to them, their first instinct is to threaten to move to Canada.

For example, if you are watching TV with white people and there is a piece on the news about that they do not agree with, they are likely to declare “ok, that’s it, I’m moving to Canada.”

Though they will never actually move to Canada, the act of declaring that they are willing to undertake the journey is very symbolic in white culture. It shows that their dedication to their lifestyle and beliefs are so strong, that they would consider packing up their entire lives and moving to a country that is only slightly different to the one they live in now.

Within white culture, it is agreed upon that if Canada had better weather it would be a perfect place.

Being aware that this information can be used quite easily to gain the trust of white people. Whenever they say, “I’m moving to Canada,” you must immediately respond with “I have relatives in Canada.”

They will then expect you to tell them about how Canada has a perfect healthcare system, legalized everything, and no crime. Though not true, it will reassure them that they are making the right choice by saying they want to move there.

But be warned, they will reference you in future conversations and possibly call on you to settle disputes about Canadian tax rates. So use this advice only if you plan to do some basic research.

Note: Canadian white people threaten to move to Europe.

Note: Europeans are unable to threaten to move anywhere.

I feel jipped. i thought these were custom posts, but you're just copying and pasting.

Heineken Helen

Rhinocerous Surprise wrote:

http://www.freewebs.com/stuffrhinolikes/sayingwhatsthatfanchie.htm

Stuff Rhino Likes
#26 Saying "What's that Fanchie? Old man Whitey fell down the well?"
2nd July 2008

Often times, Rhino gets frustrated scrolling through pointless copy-and-paste rants. He doesn't like the "humourous" racism, or the blatant laziness of basing most of your posts around stuff we could easily read on a website we've been linked to dozens of times previously thankyouverymuch. Whenever confronted with these posts, he will relentlessly compare the poster to a chimp pointing at a picture of a banana to indicate that he's hungry.

For example, when a thread about security restriction on tourism in the US is somehow derailed into talking about white girls' hairstyles, he is likely to declare "What's that Fanchie? Old man Whitey fell down the well?"

Though Old Man Whitey is a fictional character - a cunning metaphor for the "white people" so often referenced - and therefore, will never actually fall down the well, the act of talking about it is very symbolic on the Pit. It shows that some people don't actually enjoy reading the same articles word for word again and again in some half-hearted attempt at a funny response to a thread.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Heineken Helen

JaneNY wrote:

Helen, I totally understand your concerns. IMO, the U.S. doesn't deserve your travel dollars. I hope Pearl Jam/Ed goes back to Europe for you.

Thank you Jane but it does... not to mention the fact that it's soooo bloody cheap for us europeans at the moment lol. There's so much more of it that I want to see but I have to think about what's more important . There's plenty to see in Europe too... apart from an Ed solo tour :(

Jeanie

So I will get fingerprinted and eye scanned on entry into the US? :(

And I have to use "the rule of thumb" (sounds highly official don't it? :rolleyes:) when arriving with medication.

Seriously some of this stuff is as clear as mud, well except for the bit where I've managed to live my whole life without being eye scanned or fingerprinted in Australia for anything and now something as simple as travelling overseas will have me on somebody elses data base somewhere. Great. :rolleyes:

catefrances

Jeanie wrote:

So I will get fingerprinted and eye scanned on entry into the US? :( ...

yes you will girlie. both index fingers... maybe it was thumbs... i cant remember.february's still a bit of a haze. plus a retinal scan. dont forget to smile ...

but just remember though,they do love us enough that we dont need a visa to get into their country for a few months.

Jeanie

catefrances wrote:

yes you will girlie. both index fingers... maybe it was thumbs... i cant remember.february's still a bit of a haze. plus a retinal scan. dont forget to smile ...

but just remember though,they do love us enough that we dont need a visa to get into their country for a few months.

I'd rather be fingerprinted and retinal scanned here in Australia in order to procure a Visa and have to carry a Visa there.

catefrances

Jeanie wrote:

I'd rather be fingerprinted and retinal scanned here in Australia in order to procure a Visa and have to carry a Visa there.

i wouldnt ... those things are damn heavy.

Jeanie

catefrances wrote:

i wouldnt ... those things are damn heavy.

They just stick em inside your passport. They're real pretty too.

Heineken Helen

Jeanie wrote:

So I will get fingerprinted and eye scanned on entry into the US? :(

And I have to use "the rule of thumb" (sounds highly official don't it? :rolleyes:) when arriving with medication.

Seriously some of this stuff is as clear as mud, well except for the bit where I've managed to live my whole life without being eye scanned or fingerprinted in Australia for anything and now something as simple as travelling overseas will have me on somebody elses data base somewhere. Great. :rolleyes:

Exactly :( everything's moving very very fast since 9/11, isn't it? :(

Jeanie

Heineken Helen wrote:

Exactly :( everything's moving very very fast since 9/11, isn't it? :(

Well it wouldn't bother me if it actually meant there'd never be another terrorist bombing, but we all know that's not likely, so I'm not sure what it will do really. Aside from put me on a data base I don't want to be on for having the temerity to want to go visit somewhere with my squeeky clean police record. :rolleyes: