More School Shootings

AnonAnon Posts: 11,175
edited October 2006 in A Moving Train
Today it is in an Amish school in Pennsylvania, about five people have been killed there and multiple others with injuries.

At the same time, a school in Las Vegas is on lockdown because of a student with a gun on campus.

This is like the fourth time in two weeks, maybe more?
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  • macgyver06macgyver06 Posts: 2,500
    It's a shame these things happen. But the vast majority are still very good people.. we can overcome anything.
  • http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15105327/

    BREAKING NEWS: Police Surround One-Room Amish Schoolhouse

    WGAL-TV
    12:30 p.m. EDT October 2, 2006
    Police have responded to reports of a hostage situation and multiple people shot in eastern Lancaster County at a small, one-room Amish schoolhouse.

    PICTURES: Scene

    The scene is along the 4800 block of Mine Road in Bart Township. Witnesses told News 8 reporter Anne Shannon that a man went into school and took hostages. Some people in the Amish community learned about the situation and contacted police. Witnesses told Shannon that this is a tragedy not ever seen before in Lancaster County.

    Shannon also said that the hostage situation is over. Officials said the hostage taker is deceased.

    "This is definitely an enormous scene," Shannon said.

    Lancaster General Hospital has called in all available personnel. They have been told to be prepared for a large number of patients.

    John Lines of Lancaster General Hospital said so far they have received three "pediatric" patients. He did not say what their injuries were.

    Hershey Medical Center in Dauphin County has also been warned that they might be receiving patients.

    News 8 is stressing that the situation does not involve the Faith Mennonite School or Bart-Colerain Elementary, which are near the scene.
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  • so sad....
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • But as long as you Americans still get to carry your guns, its ok. I long ceased to feel sorry for you Americans when shit like this happens.
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  • this scares the Shite out of me!!!!! I have a step daughter that goes to a private school...and I have sort of been against private schools, but if it means she will not get hurt...I am all for it.
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  • humanlight wrote:
    this scares the Shite out of me!!!!! I have a step daughter that goes to a private school...and I have sort of been against private schools, but if it means she will not get hurt...I am all for it.

    if children aren't safe in an Amish school, then where are they safe?
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  • But as long as you Americans still get to carry your guns, its ok. I long ceased to feel sorry for you Americans when shit like this happens.

    it also happened in Montreal (CANADA) 3-4 weeks ago...
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • it also happened in Montreal (CANADA) 3-4 weeks ago...

    dude did you see that shit in Laval?? That's fucked up
  • Puck78Puck78 Posts: 737
    it also happened in Montreal (CANADA) 3-4 weeks ago...
    oh, and it will surely happen also in Europe, etc, before or later... but should we talk about frequency?
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  • Puck78 wrote:
    oh, and it will surely happen also in Europe, etc, before or later... but should we talk about frequency?

    well, it's definitly a problem, and not just an american problem, that was my point...
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  • miller8966miller8966 Posts: 1,450
    But as long as you Americans still get to carry your guns, its ok. I long ceased to feel sorry for you Americans when shit like this happens.

    Dont worry we dont need your sympathy
    America...the greatest Country in the world.
  • dude did you see that shit in Laval?? That's fucked up

    fucked up yes, Quebec's road system is so out of shape, it's a shame. Some concrete highways are just filled with cracks and it seems to be normal around here, no wonder these things happens (one man killed in 2000, now 5 killed this weekend).
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • gabersgabers Posts: 2,787
    Maybe this is being reactionary but I think it's time we start hiring more armed security guards for our schools. All schools, not just the inner city ones. Kind of like after 9-11 we started hiring air marshalls, maybe add this extra security into the budgets so it is a permanent thing. This shit is just terrible.

    There is a very viscous cycle going on here. When the 24-hour news networks go on and on about these situations it kind of glamorizes this kind of behavior for those sick minded individuals that need just a little prodding this is a ticket to "stardom", in a very twisted way.
  • fucked up yes, Quebec's road system is so out of shape, it's a shame. Some concrete highways are just filled with cracks and it seems to be normal around here, no wonder these things happens (one man killed in 2000, now 5 killed this weekend).

    it's all about the non commitment to improve/restore/fix...i mean the buses in my town are 27 years old! They leak, they make strange noises when i'm on my way to work...it's scary...and the airplanes! Air Canada has some antiques in the air RIGHT NOW....
  • lamperti77 wrote:
    if children aren't safe in an Amish school, then where are they safe?


    I did not know it was an Amish school until I clicked on the link. Even more shocking, but not really suprising...I am sure those kids are unbelievably frustrated. I went to "Amish country" in Berlin Ohio with my family. And you have a teenage child cutting grass with a lawn mower that is powered by him walking, then next door you have a man cutting his lawn with a 2006 Hemi sized riding lawnmower with canopea over him and a place to set his pop. I think I would be slightly disgruntled as well.

    It is definately an epidemic, and I am not sure what the answer it. Maybe we should just teach kids to how to fight again. Do you guys think it has to do with the era of "time out?"
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  • dkst0426dkst0426 Posts: 523
    I wonder if it's at all possible for anyone with an anti-US agenda to find a way to actually have some grace and NOT make comments while something like this is unfolding.

    Disgraceful.
  • gabers wrote:
    Maybe this is being reactionary but I think it's time we start hiring more armed security guards for our schools. All schools, not just the inner city ones. Kind of like after 9-11 we started hiring air marshalls, maybe add this extra security into the budgets so it is a permanent thing. This shit is just terrible.

    There is a very viscous cycle going on here. When the 24-hour news networks go on and on about these situations it kind of glamorizes this kind of behavior for those sick minded individuals that need just a little prodding this is a ticket to "stardom", in a very twisted way.

    i don't think more guard, or metal detactor, or more police around a school, or more laws, or more anything, could prevent these acts, the guard would either get killed, or the guy would enter from another place, i mean it's a mental disorder problem, and an easy access to gun problems, mixed both and a overblown exposure of these acts by the medias, and you get the situation we have today, 5 deadly school shootings in a month or so...
    "L'homme est né libre, et partout il est dans les fers"
    -Jean-Jacques Rousseau
  • robbierobbie Posts: 883
    i was watching MSNBC and there was a lady on wondering why our children have no conflict resolution skills. she couldnt figure out why kids feel the need to solve conflict with violence and guns as oppsed to talking.


    where would they get that idea???????????????????????????????????


    who in our society could have possibly set the example that all conflicts should be solved with bullets and death as opposed to ANY other form of conflict resolution? hmmmmmm? anyone? anyone have an example of how our society would train our children this?
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    miller8966 wrote:
    Dont worry we dont need your sympathy


    maybe you dont, but the family of the dead might...
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • romybianromybian Posts: 1,644
    i don't think more guard, or metal detactor, or more police around a school, or more laws, or more anything, could prevent these acts, the guard would either get killed, or the guy would enter from another place, i mean it's a mental disorder problem, and an easy access to gun problems, mixed both and a overblown exposure of these acts by the medias, and you get the situation we have today, 5 deadly school shootings in a month or so...
    There are probably lots of things to considerate in order to prevent these kind of things...
    you have the media permanently feeding kids with this bulshit that happens very often, but at the same time people need to know what's going on in their country, You can put metal detectors everywhere but if the kid really wants to, he'll get the guns through some other way.
    You can put policemen at schools and they're gonna feel uncomfortable with the situation, and when a kid starts shooting it'll turn into a fuckin' war inside the school....
    Those gun laws NEED to be changed but let's face it, if they want a gun, they'll get a gun on the streets...
    It's a deep social problem that needs to be adressed by intelligent specialized people. And to get those people to do so, every citizen must compromise to ask for it. As long as Americans sit in their houses watching the news and complaining without doing anything, it's rare that the current administration will get to work on it soon.
    And it goes to every single country in the world......... IMO.
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  • romybian wrote:
    There are probably lots of things to considerate in order to prevent these kind of things...
    you have the media permanently feeding kids with this bulshit that happens very often, but at the same time people need to know what's going on in their country, You can put metal detectors everywhere but if the kid really wants to, he'll get the guns through some other way.
    You can put policemen at schools and they're gonna feel uncomfortable with the situation, and when a kid starts shooting it'll turn into a fuckin' war inside the school....
    Those gun laws NEED to be changed but let's face it, if they want a gun, they'll get a gun on the streets...
    It's a deep social problem that needs to be adressed by intelligent specialized people. And to get those people to do so, every citizen must compromise to ask for it. As long as Americans sit in their houses watching the news and complaining without doing anything, it's rare that the current administration will get to work on it soon.
    And it goes to every single country in the world......... IMO.

    good post, i agree with most of it...
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  • Jammin909Jammin909 Posts: 888
    PARENTS. Hello, are you out there???

    The government is not responsible for raising our kids.

    People kill people.
    The less you know, the more you believe.
  • dunkmandunkman Posts: 19,646
    Jammin909 wrote:
    People kill people.


    and monkeys do to... give a monkey a loaded gun and law of averages will mean eventually it'll kill someone

    so people kill people (and monkeys do too)
    oh scary... 40000 morbidly obese christians wearing fanny packs invading europe is probably the least scariest thing since I watched an edited version of The Care Bears movie in an extremely brightly lit cinema.
  • this is what i put on the other "school shooting" post, so forgive me if some of you are reading it twice.

    How to make kids stop shooting each other: they need to feel like if they miss school that day that someone is missing them, or they are missing somehthing that means something to them.
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  • robbierobbie Posts: 883
    Jammin909 wrote:
    PARENTS. Hello, are you out there???

    The government is not responsible for raising our kids.

    People kill people.


    the parent are driving around in SUV's with flags plastered all over them blindly supporting killing people to resolve problems. the churches they go to are telling them to vote for people who kill people as a way of resolving conflits, and their schools are teaching them a history of solving conflicts through violence. with the parents, government, schools, and churches sporting hard ons for war, what else can we expect our children to learn???????????????????????????????? when every aspect of society teaches the gloification of violence to resolve conflict, we reap what we sew.
  • CosmoCosmo Posts: 12,225
    robbie wrote:
    the parent are driving around in SUV's with flags plastered all over them blindly supporting killing people to resolve problems. the churches they go to are telling them to vote for people who kill people as a way of resolving conflits, and their schools are teaching them a history of solving conflicts through violence. with the parents, government, schools, and churches sporting hard ons for war, what else can we expect our children to learn???????????????????????????????? when every aspect of society teaches the gloification of violence to resolve conflict, we reap what we sew.
    ...
    Solid points there.
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  • robbie wrote:
    the parent are driving around in SUV's with flags plastered all over them blindly supporting killing people to resolve problems. the churches they go to are telling them to vote for people who kill people as a way of resolving conflits, and their schools are teaching them a history of solving conflicts through violence. with the parents, government, schools, and churches sporting hard ons for war, what else can we expect our children to learn???????????????????????????????? when every aspect of society teaches the gloification of violence to resolve conflict, we reap what we sew.


    I think we are trying to solve a child's problem with adult ideas. We had guns in my home and I never never never concidered even touching them, and my high school life sucked!!!!!!!! Children do not think, "oh the governement is giong to war, so that means killing is okay." they are much more concrete thinkers.

    there are two things that drive children: love and attention.


    It is really that simple, our children need to feel loved and recieve positive attention. From family, friends, neighbors, teachers, principals, bus drivers, etc. We need to show love to children, then they will stop all this damn shooting. Do you really think any of these children felt unconditionally loved by these people I just listed. I am willing to bet my life savings on "no".

    Pj had it right all along "All you need is love"
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  • humanlight wrote:
    I think we are trying to solve a child's problem with adult ideas. We had guns in my home and I never never never concidered even touching them, and my high school life sucked!!!!!!!! Children do not think, "oh the governement is giong to war, so that means killing is okay." they are much more concrete thinkers.

    there are two things that drive children: love and attention.


    It is really that simple, our children need to feel loved and recieve positive attention. From family, friends, neighbors, teachers, principals, bus drivers, etc. We need to show love to children, then they will stop all this damn shooting. Do you really think any of these children felt unconditionally loved by these people I just listed. I am willing to bet my life savings on "no".

    Pj had it right all along "All you need is love"

    I agree... while the examples set by our leaders, and our celebrities, and movie and video games don't help, love and attention is the key...
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  • I agree... while the examples set by our leaders, and our celebrities, and movie and video games don't help, love and attention is the key...


    No they do not help at all, but if children had a strong since of self, family, and community, then they would much less likely to shoot someone. Also, parents are starting to parent children's behaviors. We say "hitting is NOT okay," but we never say "what" makes hitting not okay. The values behind behaviors have become extenct.
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  • PaperPlatesPaperPlates Posts: 1,745
    robbie wrote:
    i was watching MSNBC and there was a lady on wondering why our children have no conflict resolution skills. she couldnt figure out why kids feel the need to solve conflict with violence and guns as oppsed to talking.


    where would they get that idea???????????????????????????????????


    who in our society could have possibly set the example that all conflicts should be solved with bullets and death as opposed to ANY other form of conflict resolution? hmmmmmm? anyone? anyone have an example of how our society would train our children this?
    robbie wrote:
    the parent are driving around in SUV's with flags plastered all over them blindly supporting killing people to resolve problems. the churches they go to are telling them to vote for people who kill people as a way of resolving conflits, and their schools are teaching them a history of solving conflicts through violence. with the parents, government, schools, and churches sporting hard ons for war, what else can we expect our children to learn???????????????????????????????? when every aspect of society teaches the gloification of violence to resolve conflict, we reap what we sew.

    Where did they list the political and religous leanings of these kids and their families and other people who do these horrible shootings? You have a very narrow view of whats going on here. Id think that the chances are actually greater that these kids have liberal, pot smoking parents whose idea of personal responsibility in parenting is giving the kid a condom.


    Blaming Bush for a guy with no social skills shooting kids? You get a point for originality.

    Jammin909 wrote:
    PARENTS. Hello, are you out there???

    The government is not responsible for raising our kids.

    People kill people.
    well, it's definitly a problem, and not just an american problem, that was my point...


    What they said. No gun ever got up and shot someone all by itself.
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