"Loose Change" Director Chuckles Over Flight 93

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  • norm
    norm Posts: 31,146
    http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=911_morons

    http://www.ccdominoes.com/lc/LooseChangeGuide.html
  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    VINNY GOOMBA wrote:
    Yeah man, Maddox really does say it best. Bottom line, there would be way too many people involved in this conspiracy for it ever to work.

    But I still can't help but feel like everyone else does-- there are still so many unanswered questions that desperately need attention.

    For sure, there are always unanswered questions in disasters like this. I bet any scientist would tell you that unanswered questions always come up during even the most controlled experiments, let alone a chaotic mess like 9/11. It's phenomena.

    The government doesn't do a good job of answering these questions, but that's what they do best.
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    Saturnal wrote:
    For sure, there are always unanswered questions in disasters like this. I bet any scientist would tell you that unanswered questions always come up during even the most controlled experiments, let alone a chaotic mess like 9/11. It's phenomena.

    The government doesn't do a good job of answering these questions, but that's what they do best.
    Well it's a shame that too many people have that attitude and aren't demanding answers. No one can deny that the government has lied about 9/11. To just accept the fact that government does well at not answering questions is terribly sad.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    don't gimme no wrote:
    Well it's a shame that too many people have that attitude and aren't demanding answers. No one can deny that the government has lied about 9/11. To just accept the fact that government does well at not answering questions is terribly sad.

    I've gone looking for answers. I read the Popular Mechanics article, I saw the Penn & Teller show, I've read the sites cutback posted. I just can't answer all of the questions. Some of them, no problem. But the presence of sulfur in the steal, the obvious oxidization of the steal and the molten core of the buildings remains unanswered. Those are just the questions pertaining to the physical evidence. What about all the insider trading, etc...
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    don't gimme no wrote:
    Well it's a shame that too many people have that attitude and aren't demanding answers. No one can deny that the government has lied about 9/11. To just accept the fact that government does well at not answering questions is terribly sad.

    I don't accept whatever the government tells me, and I do think they should be answering more questions about what happened if they can. My point is, not every question can be answered. Like I said, unanswered questions come up in even the most controlled environments like you'd see in a science experiment. It's phenomena. It doesn't automatically mean the government is lying.

    I just happen to accept the government's official story for 9/11 as being generally correct. I accept it because of my own research and thoughts on it, not the government's.
  • murphyJammer
    murphyJammer Posts: 120
    Skitch Patterson wrote:
    You can bash my country
    you can bash my president
    you can bash my family
    you can bash my god.
    do not bash my Opie and Anthony.


    I agree sir. I don't care what you think about those guys and their theories, that segment was funny as shit
    "Bombs dropping down. Please forgive our hometown"
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    murphyJammer wrote:
    I agree sir. I don't care what you think about those guys and their theories, that segment was funny as shit
    It was funny if you can laugh at ill-informed, opinionated idiots.
  • RockinInCanada
    RockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    Saturnal wrote:
    I don't accept whatever the government tells me, and I do think they should be answering more questions about what happened if they can. My point is, not every question can be answered. Like I said, unanswered questions come up in even the most controlled environments like you'd see in a science experiment. It's phenomena. It doesn't automatically mean the government is lying.

    I just happen to accept the government's official story for 9/11 as being generally correct. I accept it because of my own research and thoughts on it, not the government's.


    How much money was spent investigating Clinton/Monica to that of 9/11.....also what happened to the story that appeared in a American national newspaper that suggested lying at the 9/11 commission or something along that line.....
  • RockinInCanada
    RockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    Saturnal wrote:
    I don't accept whatever the government tells me, and I do think they should be answering more questions about what happened if they can. My point is, not every question can be answered. Like I said, unanswered questions come up in even the most controlled environments like you'd see in a science experiment. It's phenomena. It doesn't automatically mean the government is lying.

    I just happen to accept the government's official story for 9/11 as being generally correct. I accept it because of my own research and thoughts on it, not the government's.

    So you blame Iraq then....as Condolezza said before Iraq played a role and that was a lie....yellow cake from Africa a lie....WMD in Iraq a lie....all now known....so I believe through my own research that the crediabilty of the official story is low at best.....just from the long list of blatant lies from this government.....
  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    Rockin'InCanada wrote:
    How much money was spent investigating Clinton/Monica to that of 9/11.....also what happened to the story that appeared in a American national newspaper that suggested lying at the 9/11 commission or something along that line.....

    I'm not sure, but I don't consider the government as a credible source of information on 9/11. I use other sources that I think are credible. The conclusions I reached on my own just happen to be generally the same as the government's official story.
  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    Rockin'InCanada wrote:
    So you blame Iraq then....as Condolezza said before Iraq played a role and that was a lie....yellow cake from Africa a lie....WMD in Iraq a lie....all now known....so I believe through my own research that the crediabilty of the official story is low at best.....just from the long list of blatant lies from this government.....

    No, I don't blame Iraq. I said I think the official story is generally correct...generally meaning that America was attacked by Islamic extremists on 9/11. I don't think Iraq had much, if anything, to do with the attacks at all.
  • RockinInCanada
    RockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    Saturnal wrote:
    I'm not sure, but I don't consider the government as a credible source of information on 9/11. I use other sources that I think are credible. The conclusions I reached on my own just happen to be generally the same as the government's official story.

    My problem with the offical story revolves around the fact that these crooks conjured up how much b/s after 9/11 and changed their tune how many times....all the lies start to add up....which makes one question how it all started and all roads lead to 9/11....assuming that they have been busted time and time again one would begin to think the offical story is most likely missing something...how about Bush/Cheney refusing a public inquiry...red light right there...instead it was behind closed doors...yet your nation accepted it....I just do not understand why....
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    Rockin'InCanada wrote:
    My problem with the offical story revolves around the fact that these crooks conjured up how much b/s after 9/11 and changed their tune how many times....all the lies start to add up....which makes one question how it all started and all roads lead to 9/11....assuming that they have been busted time and time again one would begin to think the offical story is most likely missing something...how about Bush/Cheney refusing a public inquiry...red light right there...instead it was behind closed doors...yet your nation accepted it....I just do not understand why....
    No free thinker could ever undestand why.
  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    Rockin'InCanada wrote:
    My problem with the offical story revolves around the fact that these crooks conjured up how much b/s after 9/11 and changed their tune how many times....all the lies start to add up....which makes one question how it all started and all roads lead to 9/11....assuming that they have been busted time and time again one would begin to think the offical story is most likely missing something...how about Bush/Cheney refusing a public inquiry...red light right there...instead it was behind closed doors...yet your nation accepted it....I just do not understand why....

    It's very obvious the government conjured up a lot of b/s so they'd have enough political support to go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Anyone who tries to dispute that is blind. And naturally, this makes you wonder if the US was even attacked on 9/11. That doesn't mean it didn't happen that way.
  • RockinInCanada
    RockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    Saturnal wrote:
    It's very obvious the government conjured up a lot of b/s so they'd have enough political support to go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Anyone who tries to dispute that is blind. And naturally, this makes you wonder if the US was even attacked on 9/11. That doesn't mean it didn't happen that way.

    I'm not saying specifically what happened...my entire point is that I 100% believe a big portion of the pie is missing in the official story....something I believe would ruin Bush & Co's credability more than anything else.....

    To add-in if a government must conjure something up for their gain and it involves war you have one big problem in your government...this government has given America a huge world wide black-eye...which sadly some people will say "who cares what the world thinks"...and that b/s....its sad b/c I personally know many Americans and treat them as good friends and people in your country should be concerned what the world thinks of you....and I don't want to see your citizens becoming more and more hated because of the shelifsh greed you currently have in government I really don't.....
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    Saturnal wrote:
    It's very obvious the government conjured up a lot of b/s so they'd have enough political support to go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Anyone who tries to dispute that is blind. And naturally, this makes you wonder if the US was even attacked on 9/11. That doesn't mean it didn't happen that way.
    Well, conjuring up their bullshit related to Iraq was an afterthought, IMO, but either way they've lied over and over and over and it's about goddamn time we get some truth. Just gimme some truth.
  • Eliot Rosewater
    Eliot Rosewater Posts: 2,659
    Rockin'InCanada wrote:
    people in your country should be concerned what the world thinks of you....and I don't want to see your citizens becoming more and more hated because of the shelifsh greed you currently have in government I really don't.....
    Dude, where have you been? We're Americans, we don't give a fuck about anyone else or what they think of us. We're the chosen people led here by God to inherit this promised land.
  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    Rockin'InCanada wrote:
    I'm not saying specifically what happened...my entire point is that I 100% believe a big portion of the pie is missing in the official story....something I believe would ruin Bush & Co's credability more than anything else.....

    To add-in if a government must conjure something up for their gain and it involves war you have one big problem in your government...this government has given America a huge world wide black-eye...which sadly some people will say "who cares what the world thinks"...and that b/s....its sad b/c I personally know many Americans and treat them as good friends and people in your country should be concerned what the world thinks of you....and I don't want to see your citizens becoming more and more hated because of the shelifsh greed you currently have in government I really don't.....

    I agree, the US government has had a big problem for a long time. The most powerful states are usually the most corrupt. I definitely care what the world thinks of the government, precisely because of what happened on 9/11. I think our policies in the Middle East drove some people to hate us and attack us.
  • lalalalaaaaaaaa
    lalalalaaaaaaaa Posts: 2,445
    don't gimme no wrote:
    Well, conjuring up their bullshit related to Iraq was an afterthought, IMO, but either way they've lied over and over and over and it's about goddamn time we get some truth. Just gimme some truth.

    I agree, they've consistently lied about many things. I think the key thing they're denying is WHY we were attacked. The government generally gives the "they hate us because of our freedoms" line, which is completely rediculous.
  • RockinInCanada
    RockinInCanada Posts: 2,016
    Saturnal wrote:
    I agree, the US government has had a big problem for a long time. The most powerful states are usually the most corrupt. I definitely care what the world thinks of the government, precisely because of what happened on 9/11. I think our policies in the Middle East drove some people to hate us and attack us.

    I agree....do you realize how much symapthy the world showed for your country after 9/11...everyone was there for you...however your government choose to take a different path of unprovoked war and all the compassion was taken away and unfortunatly replaced with negative feelings which is too bad.....and yes the policies have only created more hatred and will undoubtly may lead to further attacks...those that say the "war on terror" is working are irrational....simple fact it is breeding more hate day in and day out....the war on terror is as successful as the war on drugs...the only thing they both accomplished is an increase in the problem they were supposdly to stop....both utter failures.....

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