Yeah man, Maddox really does say it best. Bottom line, there would be way too many people involved in this conspiracy for it ever to work.
But I still can't help but feel like everyone else does-- there are still so many unanswered questions that desperately need attention.
For sure, there are always unanswered questions in disasters like this. I bet any scientist would tell you that unanswered questions always come up during even the most controlled experiments, let alone a chaotic mess like 9/11. It's phenomena.
The government doesn't do a good job of answering these questions, but that's what they do best.
For sure, there are always unanswered questions in disasters like this. I bet any scientist would tell you that unanswered questions always come up during even the most controlled experiments, let alone a chaotic mess like 9/11. It's phenomena.
The government doesn't do a good job of answering these questions, but that's what they do best.
Well it's a shame that too many people have that attitude and aren't demanding answers. No one can deny that the government has lied about 9/11. To just accept the fact that government does well at not answering questions is terribly sad.
Well it's a shame that too many people have that attitude and aren't demanding answers. No one can deny that the government has lied about 9/11. To just accept the fact that government does well at not answering questions is terribly sad.
I've gone looking for answers. I read the Popular Mechanics article, I saw the Penn & Teller show, I've read the sites cutback posted. I just can't answer all of the questions. Some of them, no problem. But the presence of sulfur in the steal, the obvious oxidization of the steal and the molten core of the buildings remains unanswered. Those are just the questions pertaining to the physical evidence. What about all the insider trading, etc...
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Well it's a shame that too many people have that attitude and aren't demanding answers. No one can deny that the government has lied about 9/11. To just accept the fact that government does well at not answering questions is terribly sad.
I don't accept whatever the government tells me, and I do think they should be answering more questions about what happened if they can. My point is, not every question can be answered. Like I said, unanswered questions come up in even the most controlled environments like you'd see in a science experiment. It's phenomena. It doesn't automatically mean the government is lying.
I just happen to accept the government's official story for 9/11 as being generally correct. I accept it because of my own research and thoughts on it, not the government's.
I don't accept whatever the government tells me, and I do think they should be answering more questions about what happened if they can. My point is, not every question can be answered. Like I said, unanswered questions come up in even the most controlled environments like you'd see in a science experiment. It's phenomena. It doesn't automatically mean the government is lying.
I just happen to accept the government's official story for 9/11 as being generally correct. I accept it because of my own research and thoughts on it, not the government's.
How much money was spent investigating Clinton/Monica to that of 9/11.....also what happened to the story that appeared in a American national newspaper that suggested lying at the 9/11 commission or something along that line.....
I don't accept whatever the government tells me, and I do think they should be answering more questions about what happened if they can. My point is, not every question can be answered. Like I said, unanswered questions come up in even the most controlled environments like you'd see in a science experiment. It's phenomena. It doesn't automatically mean the government is lying.
I just happen to accept the government's official story for 9/11 as being generally correct. I accept it because of my own research and thoughts on it, not the government's.
So you blame Iraq then....as Condolezza said before Iraq played a role and that was a lie....yellow cake from Africa a lie....WMD in Iraq a lie....all now known....so I believe through my own research that the crediabilty of the official story is low at best.....just from the long list of blatant lies from this government.....
How much money was spent investigating Clinton/Monica to that of 9/11.....also what happened to the story that appeared in a American national newspaper that suggested lying at the 9/11 commission or something along that line.....
I'm not sure, but I don't consider the government as a credible source of information on 9/11. I use other sources that I think are credible. The conclusions I reached on my own just happen to be generally the same as the government's official story.
So you blame Iraq then....as Condolezza said before Iraq played a role and that was a lie....yellow cake from Africa a lie....WMD in Iraq a lie....all now known....so I believe through my own research that the crediabilty of the official story is low at best.....just from the long list of blatant lies from this government.....
No, I don't blame Iraq. I said I think the official story is generally correct...generally meaning that America was attacked by Islamic extremists on 9/11. I don't think Iraq had much, if anything, to do with the attacks at all.
I'm not sure, but I don't consider the government as a credible source of information on 9/11. I use other sources that I think are credible. The conclusions I reached on my own just happen to be generally the same as the government's official story.
My problem with the offical story revolves around the fact that these crooks conjured up how much b/s after 9/11 and changed their tune how many times....all the lies start to add up....which makes one question how it all started and all roads lead to 9/11....assuming that they have been busted time and time again one would begin to think the offical story is most likely missing something...how about Bush/Cheney refusing a public inquiry...red light right there...instead it was behind closed doors...yet your nation accepted it....I just do not understand why....
My problem with the offical story revolves around the fact that these crooks conjured up how much b/s after 9/11 and changed their tune how many times....all the lies start to add up....which makes one question how it all started and all roads lead to 9/11....assuming that they have been busted time and time again one would begin to think the offical story is most likely missing something...how about Bush/Cheney refusing a public inquiry...red light right there...instead it was behind closed doors...yet your nation accepted it....I just do not understand why....
My problem with the offical story revolves around the fact that these crooks conjured up how much b/s after 9/11 and changed their tune how many times....all the lies start to add up....which makes one question how it all started and all roads lead to 9/11....assuming that they have been busted time and time again one would begin to think the offical story is most likely missing something...how about Bush/Cheney refusing a public inquiry...red light right there...instead it was behind closed doors...yet your nation accepted it....I just do not understand why....
It's very obvious the government conjured up a lot of b/s so they'd have enough political support to go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Anyone who tries to dispute that is blind. And naturally, this makes you wonder if the US was even attacked on 9/11. That doesn't mean it didn't happen that way.
It's very obvious the government conjured up a lot of b/s so they'd have enough political support to go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Anyone who tries to dispute that is blind. And naturally, this makes you wonder if the US was even attacked on 9/11. That doesn't mean it didn't happen that way.
I'm not saying specifically what happened...my entire point is that I 100% believe a big portion of the pie is missing in the official story....something I believe would ruin Bush & Co's credability more than anything else.....
To add-in if a government must conjure something up for their gain and it involves war you have one big problem in your government...this government has given America a huge world wide black-eye...which sadly some people will say "who cares what the world thinks"...and that b/s....its sad b/c I personally know many Americans and treat them as good friends and people in your country should be concerned what the world thinks of you....and I don't want to see your citizens becoming more and more hated because of the shelifsh greed you currently have in government I really don't.....
It's very obvious the government conjured up a lot of b/s so they'd have enough political support to go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Anyone who tries to dispute that is blind. And naturally, this makes you wonder if the US was even attacked on 9/11. That doesn't mean it didn't happen that way.
Well, conjuring up their bullshit related to Iraq was an afterthought, IMO, but either way they've lied over and over and over and it's about goddamn time we get some truth. Just gimme some truth.
people in your country should be concerned what the world thinks of you....and I don't want to see your citizens becoming more and more hated because of the shelifsh greed you currently have in government I really don't.....
Dude, where have you been? We're Americans, we don't give a fuck about anyone else or what they think of us. We're the chosen people led here by God to inherit this promised land.
I'm not saying specifically what happened...my entire point is that I 100% believe a big portion of the pie is missing in the official story....something I believe would ruin Bush & Co's credability more than anything else.....
To add-in if a government must conjure something up for their gain and it involves war you have one big problem in your government...this government has given America a huge world wide black-eye...which sadly some people will say "who cares what the world thinks"...and that b/s....its sad b/c I personally know many Americans and treat them as good friends and people in your country should be concerned what the world thinks of you....and I don't want to see your citizens becoming more and more hated because of the shelifsh greed you currently have in government I really don't.....
I agree, the US government has had a big problem for a long time. The most powerful states are usually the most corrupt. I definitely care what the world thinks of the government, precisely because of what happened on 9/11. I think our policies in the Middle East drove some people to hate us and attack us.
Well, conjuring up their bullshit related to Iraq was an afterthought, IMO, but either way they've lied over and over and over and it's about goddamn time we get some truth. Just gimme some truth.
I agree, they've consistently lied about many things. I think the key thing they're denying is WHY we were attacked. The government generally gives the "they hate us because of our freedoms" line, which is completely rediculous.
I agree, the US government has had a big problem for a long time. The most powerful states are usually the most corrupt. I definitely care what the world thinks of the government, precisely because of what happened on 9/11. I think our policies in the Middle East drove some people to hate us and attack us.
I agree....do you realize how much symapthy the world showed for your country after 9/11...everyone was there for you...however your government choose to take a different path of unprovoked war and all the compassion was taken away and unfortunatly replaced with negative feelings which is too bad.....and yes the policies have only created more hatred and will undoubtly may lead to further attacks...those that say the "war on terror" is working are irrational....simple fact it is breeding more hate day in and day out....the war on terror is as successful as the war on drugs...the only thing they both accomplished is an increase in the problem they were supposdly to stop....both utter failures.....
I agree....do you realize how much symapthy the world showed for your country after 9/11...everyone was there for you...however your government choose to take a different path of unprovoked war and all the compassion was taken away and unfortunatly replaced with negative feelings which is too bad.....and yes the policies have only created more hatred and will undoubtly may lead to further attacks...those that say the "war on terror" is working are irrational....simple fact it is breeding more hate day in and day out....the war on terror is as successful as the war on drugs...the only thing they both accomplished is an increase in the problem they were supposdly to stop....both utter failures.....
Indeed. The war on terror is designed to go on and on, much like the war on drugs. It's an endless game of whack-a-mole that you can't really win, but it's very useful for controlling the population.
Indeed. The war on terror is designed to go on and on, much like the war on drugs. It's an endless game of whack-a-mole that you can't really win, but it's very useful for controlling the population.
As we can see.....you people need a leader who has the balls to say I'm pulling the troops yet everyone is so scared to say so.....this type of leader would gain world respect.....just today...just today a high up military person in the American military stated that currently the situation is worse than ever....give it up all ready...no more kids need to die for a false war....its Nam all over again...the longer it gets dragged out...further America will be dragged through mud in the worlds eyes and I do not want to see that anymore.....
I agree, they've consistently lied about many things. I think the key thing they're denying is WHY we were attacked. The government generally gives the "they hate us because of our freedoms" line, which is completely rediculous.
Well, to some, myself included the key thing is WHO attacked us...not WHY. I've always found it to be quite insulting to Arabs that we say they hate us because of our freedom. It's so fucking stupid to believe that. If they hate us, it's because we arm and support Israel and all of our other fucked up foreign policy, as someone mentioned earlier.
Well, to some, myself included the key thing is WHO attacked us...not WHY. I've always found it to be quite insulting to Arabs that we say they hate us because of our freedom. It's so fucking stupid to believe that. If they hate us, it's because we arm and support Israel and all of our other fucked up foreign policy, as someone mentioned earlier.
That's true, first and foremost is WHO...then comes the WHY.
That's true, first and foremost is WHO...then comes the WHY.
Well you don't have a case if you don't have a suspect and a motive. Assuming Al-Qaida is the suspect, what is their motive? I find it hard to believe that it's simply to cause fear in freedom. Makes no sense to me, this is like the kind of thing you would expect to happen in china or another communist state. The fear is just a tool of the government, it serves Al-Qaida no good. In fact, having grown up next to the US and knowing how stubborn and controlling the US is, all out war was the only possible outcome. How could Al-Qaida bennefit from war? You see that makes no sense. Even if Al-Qaida is suspect, they don't have a motive that makes sense, to me anyway.
On the other hand the US administration has bennefited a great deal from 9/11. They have been able to carry out all of the domestic and international reform planned in the PNAC documents. They have gained more power as heads of state and squashed many of their enemies without cause. Not to mention the gross revenue to the weapons manufacturers and the increased debt to the Federal Reserve.
Who else could have bennefited from it? If you can figure out the WHY first, then you narrow down the suspects.
I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
Well you don't have a case if you don't have a suspect and a motive. Assuming Al-Qaida is the suspect, what is their motive? I find it hard to believe that it's simply to cause fear in freedom. Makes no sense to me, this is like the kind of thing you would expect to happen in china or another communist state. The fear is just a tool of the government, it serves Al-Qaida no good. In fact, having grown up next to the US and knowing how stubborn and controlling the US is, all out war was the only possible outcome. How could Al-Qaida bennefit from war? You see that makes no sense. Even if Al-Qaida is suspect, they don't have a motive that makes sense, to me anyway.
On the other hand the US administration has bennefited a great deal from 9/11. They have been able to carry out all of the domestic and international reform planned in the PNAC documents. They have gained more power as heads of state and squashed many of their enemies without cause. Not to mention the gross revenue to the weapons manufacturers and the increased debt to the Federal Reserve.
Who else could have bennefited from it? If you can figure out the WHY first, then you narrow down the suspects.
Al Qaeda's motive is US foreign policy in the Middle East. They say it over and over again, all the time. They want us to stop supporting Israel and other brutal regimes in the region. That's why they attacked. They benefit because everyone in America now knows who Al Qaeda is.
Al Qaeda's motive is US foreign policy in the Middle East. They say it over and over again, all the time. They want us to stop supporting Israel and other brutal regimes in the region. That's why they attacked.
that's cutting it a little short. there is also a bg mentionof our "lack of morals" pertaining to what "horrible" things our people do wthin our own borders, like not going worshipping Allah or beating t not forcing women to wear burkhas. just becasue al-quaeda doesn't want anyone to support israel doesn't make it the right answer. people talk the "fear" in the US and usually use it to descirbe the "bombs away" people, I think its pretty easy to make a case that attempting to rationalize some of these peoples motives and constantly blaming others rather than the ignored son who turned to radical islam as way to get his father's attention is based in some sort of fear.
that's cutting it a little short. there is also a bg mentionof our "lack of morals" pertaining to what "horrible" things our people do wthin our own borders, like not going worshipping Allah or beating t not forcing women to wear burkhas. just becasue al-quaeda doesn't want anyone to support israel doesn't make it the right answer. people talk the "fear" in the US and usually use it to descirbe the "bombs away" people, I think its pretty easy to make a case that attempting to rationalize some of these peoples motives and constantly blaming others rather than the ignored son who turned to radical islam as way to get his father's attention is based in some sort of fear.
I won't deny that some Muslims do not agree with our morals. But they don't agree with much of the world's morals either. We are singled out more often for another reason, and that reason is our foriegn policy. They aren't crashing planes into our buildings because we let women wear revealing clothing.
I know there's not one single reason, there are many things that play into this. But the main reason is our foreign policy. Al Qaeda says it over and over and over again...we got attacked because of our dealings in the Middle East, and in addition to that, they don't like our way of life.
I won't deny that some Muslims do not agree with our morals. But they don't agree with much of the world's morals either. We are singled out more often for another reason, and that reason is our foriegn policy. They aren't crashing planes into our buildings because we let women wear revealing clothing.
I know there's not one single reason, there are many things that play into this. But the main reason is our foreign policy. Al Qaeda says it over and over and over again...we got attacked because of our dealings in the Middle East, and in addition to that, they don't like our way of life.
I'll agree with that. There are clearly many other countries that would be higher on their 9/11 list if their motivation was based on lifestyle differences.
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For sure, there are always unanswered questions in disasters like this. I bet any scientist would tell you that unanswered questions always come up during even the most controlled experiments, let alone a chaotic mess like 9/11. It's phenomena.
The government doesn't do a good job of answering these questions, but that's what they do best.
I've gone looking for answers. I read the Popular Mechanics article, I saw the Penn & Teller show, I've read the sites cutback posted. I just can't answer all of the questions. Some of them, no problem. But the presence of sulfur in the steal, the obvious oxidization of the steal and the molten core of the buildings remains unanswered. Those are just the questions pertaining to the physical evidence. What about all the insider trading, etc...
I don't accept whatever the government tells me, and I do think they should be answering more questions about what happened if they can. My point is, not every question can be answered. Like I said, unanswered questions come up in even the most controlled environments like you'd see in a science experiment. It's phenomena. It doesn't automatically mean the government is lying.
I just happen to accept the government's official story for 9/11 as being generally correct. I accept it because of my own research and thoughts on it, not the government's.
I agree sir. I don't care what you think about those guys and their theories, that segment was funny as shit
How much money was spent investigating Clinton/Monica to that of 9/11.....also what happened to the story that appeared in a American national newspaper that suggested lying at the 9/11 commission or something along that line.....
So you blame Iraq then....as Condolezza said before Iraq played a role and that was a lie....yellow cake from Africa a lie....WMD in Iraq a lie....all now known....so I believe through my own research that the crediabilty of the official story is low at best.....just from the long list of blatant lies from this government.....
I'm not sure, but I don't consider the government as a credible source of information on 9/11. I use other sources that I think are credible. The conclusions I reached on my own just happen to be generally the same as the government's official story.
No, I don't blame Iraq. I said I think the official story is generally correct...generally meaning that America was attacked by Islamic extremists on 9/11. I don't think Iraq had much, if anything, to do with the attacks at all.
My problem with the offical story revolves around the fact that these crooks conjured up how much b/s after 9/11 and changed their tune how many times....all the lies start to add up....which makes one question how it all started and all roads lead to 9/11....assuming that they have been busted time and time again one would begin to think the offical story is most likely missing something...how about Bush/Cheney refusing a public inquiry...red light right there...instead it was behind closed doors...yet your nation accepted it....I just do not understand why....
It's very obvious the government conjured up a lot of b/s so they'd have enough political support to go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan. Anyone who tries to dispute that is blind. And naturally, this makes you wonder if the US was even attacked on 9/11. That doesn't mean it didn't happen that way.
I'm not saying specifically what happened...my entire point is that I 100% believe a big portion of the pie is missing in the official story....something I believe would ruin Bush & Co's credability more than anything else.....
To add-in if a government must conjure something up for their gain and it involves war you have one big problem in your government...this government has given America a huge world wide black-eye...which sadly some people will say "who cares what the world thinks"...and that b/s....its sad b/c I personally know many Americans and treat them as good friends and people in your country should be concerned what the world thinks of you....and I don't want to see your citizens becoming more and more hated because of the shelifsh greed you currently have in government I really don't.....
I agree, the US government has had a big problem for a long time. The most powerful states are usually the most corrupt. I definitely care what the world thinks of the government, precisely because of what happened on 9/11. I think our policies in the Middle East drove some people to hate us and attack us.
I agree, they've consistently lied about many things. I think the key thing they're denying is WHY we were attacked. The government generally gives the "they hate us because of our freedoms" line, which is completely rediculous.
I agree....do you realize how much symapthy the world showed for your country after 9/11...everyone was there for you...however your government choose to take a different path of unprovoked war and all the compassion was taken away and unfortunatly replaced with negative feelings which is too bad.....and yes the policies have only created more hatred and will undoubtly may lead to further attacks...those that say the "war on terror" is working are irrational....simple fact it is breeding more hate day in and day out....the war on terror is as successful as the war on drugs...the only thing they both accomplished is an increase in the problem they were supposdly to stop....both utter failures.....
Indeed. The war on terror is designed to go on and on, much like the war on drugs. It's an endless game of whack-a-mole that you can't really win, but it's very useful for controlling the population.
As we can see.....you people need a leader who has the balls to say I'm pulling the troops yet everyone is so scared to say so.....this type of leader would gain world respect.....just today...just today a high up military person in the American military stated that currently the situation is worse than ever....give it up all ready...no more kids need to die for a false war....its Nam all over again...the longer it gets dragged out...further America will be dragged through mud in the worlds eyes and I do not want to see that anymore.....
That's true, first and foremost is WHO...then comes the WHY.
Well you don't have a case if you don't have a suspect and a motive. Assuming Al-Qaida is the suspect, what is their motive? I find it hard to believe that it's simply to cause fear in freedom. Makes no sense to me, this is like the kind of thing you would expect to happen in china or another communist state. The fear is just a tool of the government, it serves Al-Qaida no good. In fact, having grown up next to the US and knowing how stubborn and controlling the US is, all out war was the only possible outcome. How could Al-Qaida bennefit from war? You see that makes no sense. Even if Al-Qaida is suspect, they don't have a motive that makes sense, to me anyway.
On the other hand the US administration has bennefited a great deal from 9/11. They have been able to carry out all of the domestic and international reform planned in the PNAC documents. They have gained more power as heads of state and squashed many of their enemies without cause. Not to mention the gross revenue to the weapons manufacturers and the increased debt to the Federal Reserve.
Who else could have bennefited from it? If you can figure out the WHY first, then you narrow down the suspects.
"9/11 was an inside job, but Loose Change is a hoax"
Al Qaeda's motive is US foreign policy in the Middle East. They say it over and over again, all the time. They want us to stop supporting Israel and other brutal regimes in the region. That's why they attacked. They benefit because everyone in America now knows who Al Qaeda is.
that's cutting it a little short. there is also a bg mentionof our "lack of morals" pertaining to what "horrible" things our people do wthin our own borders, like not going worshipping Allah or beating t not forcing women to wear burkhas. just becasue al-quaeda doesn't want anyone to support israel doesn't make it the right answer. people talk the "fear" in the US and usually use it to descirbe the "bombs away" people, I think its pretty easy to make a case that attempting to rationalize some of these peoples motives and constantly blaming others rather than the ignored son who turned to radical islam as way to get his father's attention is based in some sort of fear.
I won't deny that some Muslims do not agree with our morals. But they don't agree with much of the world's morals either. We are singled out more often for another reason, and that reason is our foriegn policy. They aren't crashing planes into our buildings because we let women wear revealing clothing.
I know there's not one single reason, there are many things that play into this. But the main reason is our foreign policy. Al Qaeda says it over and over and over again...we got attacked because of our dealings in the Middle East, and in addition to that, they don't like our way of life.