Quana "massacre" staged...

jsand
jsand Posts: 646
edited August 2006 in A Moving Train
http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/188571.php

And everyone buys into it.
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  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    Some of the comments in that thread are on the mark ... Some sort of unbiased forensic analysis would be a good thing, and the issue of rigor mortus and some of those bodies appearing to be less than freshly dead is worthy of more attention.
    On the other hand, this would be a pretty elaborate hoax, no? Why would the Lebanese bother? Hundreds have already been killed. I could see a specific attempt at making Israel look REALLY bad by focusing on the children. I don't know. This is a bit like those 9-11 conspiracy theories. We need more than circumstantial evidence and guesswork before writing the whole thing off completely as a hoax or inside job.
  • jsand
    jsand Posts: 646
    reborncareerist wrote:
    Some of the comments in that thread are on the mark ... Some sort of unbiased forensic analysis would be a good thing, and the issue of rigor mortus and some of those bodies appearing to be less than freshly dead is worthy of more attention.
    On the other hand, this would be a pretty elaborate hoax, no? Why would the Lebanese bother? Hundreds have already been killed. I could see a specific attempt at making Israel look REALLY bad by focusing on the children. I don't know. This is a bit like those 9-11 conspiracy theories. We need more than circumstantial evidence and guesswork before writing the whole thing off completely as a hoax or inside job.

    There's some pretty compelling photographic evidence there - where's all the blood? And why are the rescue people not covered in concrete dust like on 9-11?
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    jsand wrote:
    http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/188571.php

    And everyone buys into it.

    Oh man, I'm getting tired of researching this stuff. Oh well, I'm not going to make any immediate statements regarding this incident. I'll get back to you within the next few days. My head is going to explode and I need a break.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • jsand
    jsand Posts: 646
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Oh man, I'm getting tired of researching this stuff. Oh well, I'm not going to make any immediate statements regarding this incident. I'll get back to you within the next few days. My head is going to explode and I need a break.

    Be sure not to ask any Jews about the Holocaust; they may get real angry at you.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    jsand wrote:
    Be sure not to ask any Jews about the Holocaust; they may get real angry at you.

    Thanks, I already learned that lesson. You are a good example.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • dkst0426
    dkst0426 Posts: 523
    Hey, if 9/11 can be some massive government conspiracy, why not, right? Let's see if the Alex Jones disciples jump on this one too.
  • jsand
    jsand Posts: 646
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Thanks, I already learned that lesson. You are a good example.

    Except, I don't remember you ever asking me shit about the Holocaust.
  • jsand
    jsand Posts: 646
    dkst0426 wrote:
    Hey, if 9/11 can be some massive government conspiracy, why not, right? Let's see if the Alex Jones disciples jump on this one too.

    Except that Arab terrorists have a history of staging these events.
  • dkst0426
    dkst0426 Posts: 523
    jsand wrote:
    Except that Arab terrorists have a history of staging these events.
    Be that as it may, I'm still curious to see what the reaction from the legion of prisonplanet.com/Inforwars afficionados who brand those who refuse to believe the 9/11 conspiracy theories as "ignorant" or "blind" will be.
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    jsand wrote:
    Except, I don't remember you ever asking me shit about the Holocaust.

    No I didn't, but don't get mad, that's what I want you to do ;)
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    jsand wrote:
    Except that Arab terrorists have a history of staging these events.

    Please, some examples.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • jsand
    jsand Posts: 646
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Please, some examples.

    Ever hear of Palliwood?
  • jsand
    jsand Posts: 646
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7332726655958371305

    Some good examples.
  • rebornFixer
    rebornFixer Posts: 4,901
    dkst0426 wrote:
    Be that as it may, I'm still curious to see what the reaction from the legion of prisonplanet.com/Inforwars afficionados who brand those who refuse to believe the 9/11 conspiracy theories as "ignorant" or "blind" will be.

    **crickets**
  • dkst0426
    dkst0426 Posts: 523
    reborncareerist wrote:
    **crickets**
    Quite telling, isn't it?
  • Ahnimus
    Ahnimus Posts: 10,560
    jsand wrote:
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7332726655958371305

    Some good examples.

    Interesting. Those are good examples. Some of them, particularily the first one is rather arguable. I'd actually be more inclined to believe the man was shot. This serves as a good example of how all nations or media outlets can fabricate stories. The government however is better at covering their tracks.

    The real amazement here is how they managed to get 20 or so people to act this way. I guess it's no stretch to believe that many conspiracy theories might be true. It's really unfortunate that this news agency couldn't catch any real violence on tape. Like the others do when they show real IDF soldiers shooting people and tanks driving through the streets. Or I suppose the palestinians borrowed a tank for those scenes. They could be all hacked up filming aswell. It's way too easy to stage stuff and edit it any way you want. The violence still exists though and assuming arabs are at fault is racist. I know not all arabs are like this, this is really a bad thing to judge them all on.

    Anyway, thanks for the examples. I'll keep this in mind during my research.
    I necessarily have the passion for writing this, and you have the passion for condemning me; both of us are equally fools, equally the toys of destiny. Your nature is to do harm, mine is to love truth, and to make it public in spite of you. - Voltaire
  • Puck78
    Puck78 Posts: 737
    reborncareerist wrote:
    and the issue of rigor mortus
    (from latin: rigor mortis, not mortus. If you say mortus the meaning becomes quite funny: from "rigidity caused by death" it becomes "severity is dead")
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  • even flow?
    even flow? Posts: 8,066
    jsand wrote:
    http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/188571.php

    And everyone buys into it.


    Some bought into the massacre in the 40's. I guess it is which side you are on and who you want to believe. Some suckers will buy into anything!


    So all you people can see the flaws in 911 and every other races cries over being persecuted? I knew you can. Good work Jsand.
    You've changed your place in this world!
  • El_Kabong
    El_Kabong Posts: 4,141
    Ahnimus wrote:
    Interesting. Those are good examples. Some of them, particularily the first one is rather arguable. I'd actually be more inclined to believe the man was shot. This serves as a good example of how all nations or media outlets can fabricate stories. The government however is better at covering their tracks.

    The real amazement here is how they managed to get 20 or so people to act this way. I guess it's no stretch to believe that many conspiracy theories might be true. It's really unfortunate that this news agency couldn't catch any real violence on tape. Like the others do when they show real IDF soldiers shooting people and tanks driving through the streets. Or I suppose the palestinians borrowed a tank for those scenes. They could be all hacked up filming aswell. It's way too easy to stage stuff and edit it any way you want. The violence still exists though and assuming arabs are at fault is racist. I know not all arabs are like this, this is really a bad thing to judge them all on.

    Anyway, thanks for the examples. I'll keep this in mind during my research.


    **crickets**
    standin above the crowd
    he had a voice that was strong and loud and
    i swallowed his facade cos i'm so
    eager to identify with
    someone above the crowd
    someone who seemed to feel the same
    someone prepared to lead the way
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    jsand wrote:
    http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/188571.php

    And everyone buys into it.

    Some people on this board really are sick in the head. "And everyone buys into it"???????? Take a look at the web page which has printed this shit!!!
    'Conferderate Yankee' 'Because liberalism is a permanent vegetative state'. Hmm, an obviously unbiased and reliable source of information. I notice that they have relied upon their information solely and exclusively from the IDF.
    jsand, you assume that the above article must be THE TRUTH simply because it has been written. How hard did you have to look to try and find this garbage ?? I feel ashamed that I'm posting on the same message board as people who would relay this crap and then make lame comments such as "And everyone buys into it" - when referring to the murder of the 56 Lebanese civilians, including 34 children. It's a fucking disgrace!

    This is the same website which sings the praises of Pat Dollard and his gung ho "Lets kill all the Iraqi gooks" shit...

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