I hear ya..and agree this is not easy...but imagine this..if bush stood up today and said: "hey everybody, I want to talk to kimmy about this here nuk-le-ur (:)) thing, let's sit down and have some tea, maybe we can work something out"...I'm pretty sure the world would welcome this, and support it...
I know it's utopian...but it's just a thought...
We arent really disagreeing here. But at the same time put me in the skeptical group, because as nice as it would be to have these talks, Im not sure the Kim really operates based around what anybody else wants other than himself, and I think he wants a nuke. But at the same time, the world perspective would certainly shift any blame in this situation from us, over to him, which would also be nice. Basically, talks are certainly worth a strong try, but it would be interesting to see if they actually produced anything.
We arent really disagreeing here. But at the same time put me in the skeptical group, because as nice as it would be to have these talks, Im not sure the Kim really operates based around what anybody else wants other than himself, and I think he wants a nuke. But at the same time, the world perspective would certainly shift any blame in this situation from us, over to him, which would also be nice. Basically, talks are certainly worth a strong try, but it would be interesting to see if they actually produced anything.
I think the apporch will be key...as I've said, if we go in demanding and full of threats, the talks will surely fail...we have to be the better "man" in this...
I think the apporch will be key...as I've said, if we go in demanding and full of threats, the talks will surely fail...we have to be the better "man" in this...
I kind of like the idea of letting the asian countries take the lead in this if at all possible. They are at more risk from NK than we are anyway, and with Kims obvious dislike of us I think more would be accomplished if the talks primarily consisted of the asian nations.
But yes, this is a fragile situation and going in with guns blazing and making threats and demands would not offer up any type of solutions I dont believe.
I kind of like the idea of letting the asian countries take the lead in this if at all possible. They are at more risk from NK than we are anyway, and with Kims obvious dislike of us I think more would be accomplished if the talks primarily consisted of the asian nations.
But yes, this is a fragile situation and going in with guns blazing and making threats and demands would not offer up any type of solutions I dont believe.
I agree. Let the nieghbors see if they can talk the crazy man from jumping before calling in the so called experts.
Of course i agree to talk. But when do you draw the line of being blackmailed into complying w/ a nutjobs demands?
good question...
honestly, I think it's how you frame it..meaning, if you look at is as "blackmail", you already have a bad taste in your mouth going in...or if you look at is a "disagreement", you may be more open...
I kind of like the idea of letting the asian countries take the lead in this if at all possible. They are at more risk from NK than we are anyway, and with Kims obvious dislike of us I think more would be accomplished if the talks primarily consisted of the asian nations.
I agree......I like that idea, I wonder if our current powers that be will allow that to happen...
honestly, I think it's how you frame it..meaning, if you look at is as "blackmail", you already have a bad taste in your mouth going in...or if you look at is a "disagreement", you may be more open...
note: "you" means the US in this response...:)
Can you honestly go into a situation like NK/nukes w/ a good taste in your mouth?
as I stated...it all depends on how you look at it and how you approch it...so to answer, I say "yes"...
I think he meant that the situation itself is a very bad one. There really isn't any cause for celebration here, unless a person likes nuclear proliferation and nutty dictators.
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We arent really disagreeing here. But at the same time put me in the skeptical group, because as nice as it would be to have these talks, Im not sure the Kim really operates based around what anybody else wants other than himself, and I think he wants a nuke. But at the same time, the world perspective would certainly shift any blame in this situation from us, over to him, which would also be nice. Basically, talks are certainly worth a strong try, but it would be interesting to see if they actually produced anything.
I think the apporch will be key...as I've said, if we go in demanding and full of threats, the talks will surely fail...we have to be the better "man" in this...
Of course i agree to talk. But when do you draw the line of being blackmailed into complying w/ a nutjobs demands?
I kind of like the idea of letting the asian countries take the lead in this if at all possible. They are at more risk from NK than we are anyway, and with Kims obvious dislike of us I think more would be accomplished if the talks primarily consisted of the asian nations.
But yes, this is a fragile situation and going in with guns blazing and making threats and demands would not offer up any type of solutions I dont believe.
Very true ...
And I refer to experts very loosely...
good question...
honestly, I think it's how you frame it..meaning, if you look at is as "blackmail", you already have a bad taste in your mouth going in...or if you look at is a "disagreement", you may be more open...
note: "you" means the US in this response...:)
I agree......I like that idea, I wonder if our current powers that be will allow that to happen...
Can you honestly go into a situation like NK/nukes w/ a good taste in your mouth?
as I stated...it all depends on how you look at it and how you approch it...so to answer, I say "yes"...
I think he meant that the situation itself is a very bad one. There really isn't any cause for celebration here, unless a person likes nuclear proliferation and nutty dictators.